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Sandtrap 12-25-2004 08:02 PM

i just got cakewalk and am looking for some guidence.

so far I have:
gotten it installed, and thats about it, and Im about to buy a 1/8 adapter.

but a werd window pops up everytime I start the program its says:
u havent selected any MIDI outputs please select one now

and when I click on select MIDI outputs theres nothing I can choose from, this might be more of a computer problem but if anyone knows the answer please help me out!!

Thanks!!

surfkauai 12-26-2004 12:03 AM

My question is...how do you record directly from a POD to the computer via USB. If at all possibly, i'd prefer to just do it through Cool Edit Pro 2.0, i dont want to spend any more money on computer programs.

surfkauai 12-26-2004 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=Sandtrap]i just got cakewalk and am looking for some guidence.

so far I have:
gotten it installed, and thats about it, and Im about to buy a 1/8 adapter.

but a werd window pops up everytime I start the program its says:
u havent selected any MIDI outputs please select one now

and when I click on select MIDI outputs theres nothing I can choose from, this might be more of a computer problem but if anyone knows the answer please help me out!!

Thanks!![/QUOTE]

You need a new soundcard for you're comp. I'm guessing you're using a laptop?

Noxious_Sting 12-26-2004 02:55 AM

TheAbstract-
Your 15? I am a producer myself . When I was your age I didnt know half of that ****, Good work.

P.S I am selling my current studio becuase im moving I will start a thread in a few weeks about it if anyone interested? (Australia: Sydney, a 4 roomed pro studio)

theabstract 12-26-2004 05:08 AM

^^^ cool man, i'm 16 now hehe. I'd definitly be interested, i'd also love to talk to you about my future plans...do you have msn?

NotForSale.co.za 12-26-2004 05:43 AM

Sandtrap, i dont use Cakewalk myself, but i have tried to before, and im sure there is an option when that window pops up which says something like "Continue with no midi outputs". Select that option if you can, and the program will still run as far as i am aware.

Vitriolic Rage 12-26-2004 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=theabstract]^^^ cool man, i'm 16 now hehe. I'd definitly be interested, i'd also love to talk to you about my future plans...do you have msn?[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking of setting up my own little recording studio in a few years.
Somehow...

Vitriolic Rage 12-26-2004 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=surfkauai]My question is...how do you record directly from a POD to the computer via USB. If at all possibly, i'd prefer to just do it through Cool Edit Pro 2.0, i dont want to spend any more money on computer programs.[/QUOTE]
Don't spend any more money on them, I can assure you most of the people on here don't.
Some you don't even need to pay to use legally, Audacity is a great, free program.

Nightvision 12-26-2004 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=Jason101]ok - I have another problem - I tested the recording, and the mic worked fine, although when I put a lead from the emulated line out/headphone socket into the same socket as i did the mic, I get a horribly distorted sound, even with my amp on clean and the recording level right down. You can *just* make out the chord changes, but only just - any possible reason for this?[/QUOTE]

quoted for desperation

Sandtrap 12-26-2004 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=NotForSale.co.za]Sandtrap, i dont use Cakewalk myself, but i have tried to before, and im sure there is an option when that window pops up which says something like "Continue with no midi outputs". Select that option if you can, and the program will still run as far as i am aware.[/QUOTE]

yeah it will still run but I cant hear anything, which kinda sucks when Im trying to mix and edit a recording. Im using a full PC, not a laptop so Im pretty sure I have a soundcard and everything...

Sandtrap 12-26-2004 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=surfkauai]You need a new soundcard for you're comp. I'm guessing you're using a laptop?[/QUOTE]

nope

Sandtrap 12-26-2004 06:44 PM

also if anyone could help me selecting the right adapter I need for recording guitar directly to the computer.

Im told I need a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter, or something like that.

P.s. I have a dell.

moaner 12-27-2004 01:40 PM

[QUOTE=Jason101]quoted for desperation[/QUOTE]

plug the (emulated) line out into (you guessed it) the line in.

Sinai Beach 12-27-2004 06:16 PM

I have just completed my studio room!!! its pretty awsome, ill post pics in a little bit. All i need now is some more mics other than that its complete!!! ooo yea im almost 16.

Shevenal 12-27-2004 06:30 PM

Yo...

I have a 4-track recorder ([URL=http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=rec/search/detail/base_pid/240851/]this one[/URL]) and my band recorded a few songs on it last practice.

I read a few guides online and they said to connect the player (i used the 4-track) to your soundcard's line-in and record. So I used the 4-tracks headphone-out and connected it to the line-in using a 1/8-1/8 cable.

Here's the problem... when using Cool Edit Pro to record the line-in, it only plays out of the left speaker. But when I use sound recorder (the simple prog that comes with windows) it uses both speakers. I [I]would[/I] just use sound recorder but it has a 60 second time limit and such.

Any way to fix this problem so that the recorded sound comes out of both speakers?

EDIT: problem fixed :)

FatherKeeL 12-27-2004 08:00 PM

i use cubase to record.

you can hear the metronome (mic picked it up through the headphones...)

is there anyway to subtract that part of the signal (i know there is - i just dont know how...)

(its a complicated bit, and im to lazy to record it again... :-/)

ECTWest 12-27-2004 08:09 PM

Hi. I don't know if this was answered, as I read the lessons then skimmed the rest, but since you mentioned digital recorders, could you possibly suggest a few good ones? We're refinishing a room in my house and we agreed that it can be a home studio for my band, and I think that the digital recorder would be a better option for it. Any suggestions?

Sorry if you've already answered this.. but it can't hurt to have it again I suppose :-)

Ect

ECTWest 12-27-2004 09:13 PM

Oh, also I just wanted to clarify. (5 person band by the way-- 2 vocalists, 2 guitars-- one of the vocalists being rhythm guitarist, bass, drums)

If you use a digitial studio, such as the Boss BR-1180, that is basically taking the place of the computer, soundcard, mixer, and recording software right? You still need all the mics, and room, the monitors, and headphones, but the digital recorder will basically do the job of the recording programs and computer? I just wanted to see if I was understanding this correctly.

Thanks

Sandtrap 12-27-2004 09:38 PM

I got the output on cakewalk all set and figured out...and just need one bit of final advice.

what type of adapter should I get to record my guitar? I will either need a link or a desription in very great depth-just wanna make sure I understand.

this would be great!!

Ive also been told that if I wanna record guitar Im going to need a pre-amp...what the hell is that and please post a link of one I would need too....

FatherKeeL 12-28-2004 04:36 AM

@sandtrap...

get a sm57 and mic your amp ... )plus a (XLR to small jack cable)

(i think thats all the deapth you need, pretty simple really...)

Sandtrap 12-28-2004 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=FatherKeeL]@sandtrap...

get a sm57 and mic your amp ... )plus a (XLR to small jack cable)

(i think thats all the deapth you need, pretty simple really...)[/QUOTE]

I just got a 1/4 to 1.8 cable and it works really good. Im recording songs and the only slight problem I have is that the giutar is a little too gainy...which I think I can easily solve.

Thanks all of you who helped me!! Thanks again!!

KingEdward5150 12-30-2004 01:31 AM

so for example early van halen probly had his amp mic'd up pretty close but,,,,,,,

for the solo's in Journey...specifically 'ask the lonely' it sounds like the mic is a bit farther, would someone kind of listen and see if they agree? im trying to get that 'journey' sound.....

Flik 12-30-2004 05:07 AM

Hey, I got a problem with the EQ, which can't typically can't be removed by the hiss removable features you can find floating around :(

Basically, I'm recording a guitar amp, and I'm setting up the eq by boosting the high and lows, and dropping the mids.. it gives that typical heavy bassy rock sound you might hear in those heavier rock bands. Anyway, as a result (I'm pretty sure it's the EQ), when I play the track you can really hear a vibrant 'sssssssssssss' in the background, a bit like a sizzle.

I was just wondering if there was ANY way at all of getting rid of it? By the way I use adobe audition 1.5

Someone suggested I changed software?..

aguywithaguitar 12-30-2004 06:22 AM

the sssssssssss is probably the result of the high frequencies in your mix. just reduce the highs in adobe audition.
ECTWest: yes

aguywithaguitar 12-30-2004 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=Shevenal]Yo...

I have a 4-track recorder ([URL=http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=rec/search/detail/base_pid/240851/]this one[/URL]) and my band recorded a few songs on it last practice.

I read a few guides online and they said to connect the player (i used the 4-track) to your soundcard's line-in and record. So I used the 4-tracks headphone-out and connected it to the line-in using a 1/8-1/8 cable.

Here's the problem... when using Cool Edit Pro to record the line-in, it only plays out of the left speaker. But when I use sound recorder (the simple prog that comes with windows) it uses both speakers. I [I]would[/I] just use sound recorder but it has a 60 second time limit and such.

Any way to fix this problem so that the recorded sound comes out of both speakers?

EDIT: problem fixed :)[/QUOTE]
i don't know if this will work, but in the multitrack view, click the grey box that says 'Rec 1'. a window should pop up saying Record Devices. If stereo is selected, click left channel. If Left channel is selected, click stereo. Then click the box 'Same for all Tracks'. Press ok and re-record whatever you were recording.

moaner 12-30-2004 07:29 PM

the sss is just amp hiss, from using a cheap amp and sitting in fornt of your PC. It can't be fixed just like that. Your best bet are a noise gate and staying away from your PC when recording (leave 10s of silence at the start of every track, to give you time to get away from your PC, you can always delete it afterwards)

NotForSale.co.za 01-01-2005 08:16 AM

you can apparently buy something called a "ground-lift-plug", which stops the amp from hsssing. you just plu your amp's power cable into the Ground lift plug, and the nplug that into your household power supply (e.g wall socket).

NotForSale.co.za 01-01-2005 08:27 AM

i need a bit of advice for recording a drum kit. I only have 3 mics at the moment - 1 SM57 for the snare, 1 Rode NT1-A condensor as an overhead, and 1 dynamic mic for the bass drum. I have enough cash for another mic, but im not sure which one is the most important - either another condensor for an overhead, so i can record my drums in stereo, or a bass drum mic, so that i dont get such a cardboardy sounding bass drum, (although apparently i can eliminate the cardboard sound by boosting the high's and low's). Please help!

jmlb13 01-03-2005 12:11 AM

[QUOTE=NotForSale.co.za]you can apparently buy something called a "ground-lift-plug", which stops the amp from hsssing. you just plu your amp's power cable into the Ground lift plug, and the nplug that into your household power supply (e.g wall socket).[/QUOTE]


As the son of an electrician i urge you strongly not to do this
several musicians in the seventies and eighties are now dead from using these devices. Lifting the ground efectivly does reduce hum but not hiss. Just picture a 120V electric arc comming out of your pickups. i know it would look cool but you would die very little question there. Also donot confuse this with ground lifters on xlr cables. THis is perfectly safe. If you would like a more in depth description of hum reduction and electrical tricks i would be glad to post one just request and i will however it will be long. But please for your saftey donot lift the ground or remove the ground plug from your amp.

jmlb13 01-03-2005 12:12 AM

one more thing there is a safe transformer that can be aquired i know from full compass magazine and i will ID it for you that via a transformer safley reduces hum in the ground
transformer is called hum-x it is available from full compass fo $90

jmlb13 01-03-2005 12:15 AM

[QUOTE=NotForSale.co.za]i need a bit of advice for recording a drum kit. I only have 3 mics at the moment - 1 SM57 for the snare, 1 Rode NT1-A condensor as an overhead, and 1 dynamic mic for the bass drum. I have enough cash for another mic, but im not sure which one is the most important - either another condensor for an overhead, so i can record my drums in stereo, or a bass drum mic, so that i dont get such a cardboardy sounding bass drum, (although apparently i can eliminate the cardboard sound by boosting the high's and low's). Please help![/QUOTE]

Kic mic would def be you best bet cybals in stereo is actually not all that noticable unless you work REAL hard in mixdown

jmlb13 01-03-2005 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=Jason101]quoted for desperation[/QUOTE]


Alright everybody listen
MIC level and LINE level are two diferent things this is something very few people know and most dont really care about. Mic level is much lower than line level that is why if you plug a mixer into the mic in on your computer you have to turn your master Way down to keep from clipping you can by in line converters fron line level to mic level. about $60 if i remember correctly

neiltrett 01-03-2005 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=jmlb13]Alright everybody listen
MIC level and LINE level are two diferent things this is something very few people know and most dont really care about. Mic level is much lower than line level that is why if you plug a mixer into the mic in on your computer you have to turn your master Way down to keep from clipping you can by in line converters fron line level to mic level. about $60 if i remember correctly[/QUOTE]
this very good advice... :thumb:

neiltrett 01-03-2005 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=theabstract]Hey everyone, thanks for the feedback, I'm glad I can help. But dont too many of u poen up studio cos i'll run out of business (nah, just jokes!) Yeah i'll do the next lesson soon, but ive been a bit busy with this punk band!

Hey weasle, do like the chillis, coz I ****ing love the chilis. If you want a chad smith snare sound, get a small metal snare and tune it up ****ing high!

Yatty, haven't got a clue wots going on, really sorry man![/QUOTE]
hey abstract!its really great that the pros can share their knowledge with all the indie guys out there.i have met too many producer types that just look down there noses at up and comers...keep up the good work your post is great!p.s.any advice on recording slide guitar? :thumb:

15sbassist 01-06-2005 08:58 PM

This is brilliant. Great job mate.

NotForSale.co.za 01-09-2005 08:10 AM

Okay so i got a drum mic kit now, but i only have 4 mic inputs on my mixer, so im thinking of just using the 2 overheads from the kit and the bass drum mic with my SM57 on the snare, would that be okay? Some time in the distance future i would like to get hold of another mixer, so that i can connect the two together, therefore having 8 mic inputs, and then i can make full use of my drum mic kit.

One other thing - does anyone here have any of these drum mic kits? I dont quite understand how the clips are meant to clip onto the toms, cos the mics seem very far away from the skins when i clip them on (about 5 - 6 inches). Anyone have a better way in using these tom mics?

Noxious_Sting 01-09-2005 04:07 PM

Nice work, wasnt this stickied before? It has a fair few usefull tips that probably get asked repetitively.

Lildrummerboy168 01-09-2005 08:40 PM

ok all this really helped...me and my band have been workin off this and tryin to get some money together(kinda hard) with getting all the equpiment but not like top of line what would be an average of $$$$$ needed?

jmlb13 01-09-2005 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=Lildrummerboy168]ok all this really helped...me and my band have been workin off this and tryin to get some money together(kinda hard) with getting all the equpiment but not like top of line what would be an average of $$$$$ needed?[/QUOTE]

Honestly you cn get a good used pa for under 300 bucks to start with. go for about 300 watts power and couple good JBL crvin or something in that line of speakers. Look at you output power of you amps and match to your speakers as best as possible. also i suggest reading up on PA setup online. Try to understand impedance wattage and other items related to sound feilds and sound setup. you really dont need lot of serious csh to get started. Mu first band bought mixer and ran it line in to my home stereo amp. a pioneer 838 stereo head. One set of spekers for mins one set of speakers for monitors. But yall can do alot better for relatively cheap. I just got a set of altec lansing Voice of the Theatre spekers for like 600 bucks and the sound awesme although they weigh like 140 lbs a piece. point being you can get loads of sound second hand for very little bank. find some of the bands in your area nd see if they have anything their not using and want to sell. Whn your talking about this stuff to start of less can be more too. You dont want 3 1000 watt amps two subs four mains and six monitors in a small club. Youll kill the people listening. Analyze your venue base and get equipment to match. Monitors are a must to me. Decent mains plenty of amp and good board you caqn def get out for less than most people think.

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