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JohnXDoesn't 07-31-2005 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=drugstore cowboy]That's rough, man, rough. I have Tommy, My Generation, and Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy on vinyl. Tommy on vinyl is orgasmic.[/QUOTE]

Wow! A vinyl discussion. I have The Who Sing My Generation, Tommy, Live at Leeds,(complete with fake tour documents) Who's Next (two of those), Qradrophenia (a 25 year old CBS label Japenese import) The Who By Numbers, Who Are You, Face Dances, It's Hard, Who's Last, and Townshends first three early eighties solo albums all on vinyl. And in pretty good shape, all.

[SIZE=5]ENVY ME![/SIZE] :p

pigonthewing82 07-31-2005 10:27 PM

You know what Who song has really grown on me, Behind Blue Eyes. I just love that line "And my dreams they arn't as empty as my consciance seems to be" is just great.

Seafroggys 08-01-2005 12:54 AM

[QUOTE=drugstore cowboy]It's a very bizarre movie, but I guess that's what you'd have to expect after hearing the album. Some good cameos by Elton John, Eric Clapton, Tina Turner, and the rest of the Who, as Roger plays Tommy.

It continues on after "Listening to you..." and there are other songs that aren't on the album. I guess it's a must for diehard Who fans. :p[/QUOTE]

I saw that movie a year ago, and I wasn't familiar with any of the music. I still haven't heard the album. I need to get the album and watch the movie again so I can appreciate it more.

Lunch 08-01-2005 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Wow! A vinyl discussion. I have The Who Sing My Generation, Tommy, Live at Leeds,(complete with fake tour documents) Who's Next (two of those), Qradrophenia (a 25 year old CBS label Japenese import) The Who By Numbers, Who Are You, Face Dances, It's Hard, Who's Last, and Townshends first three early eighties solo albums all on vinyl. And in pretty good shape, all.

[SIZE=5]ENVY ME![/SIZE] :p[/QUOTE]

Oh I do. I/my dad has The Who Sings My Generation, A Quick One/Sell Out (he has the version where MCA released it later packaged as one album), Tommy, and Live at Leeds. He doesn't care much for the later Who, so I didn't expect him to have had more than that.

I'm about to drive about two hours to visit my friend's apartment, and I'm feeling a Who marathon for the trip.

JohnXDoesn't 08-01-2005 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Oh I do. I/my dad has The Who Sings My Generation, A Quick One/Sell Out (he has the version where MCA released it later packaged as one album), Tommy, and Live at Leeds. He doesn't care much for the later Who, so I didn't expect him to have had more than that.

I'm about to drive about two hours to visit my friend's apartment, and I'm feeling a Who marathon for the trip.[/QUOTE]

I like your new avatar. Old school, indeed. :cool:

born2drum 08-01-2005 01:08 PM

I love The Who like they own, and I've noticed that after listening to some greenday and offspring and other bands, many of there lyrics and shows have quotes from The Who like "deaf, blind, and dumb" and g-g-generation and stuff, just shows how much bands respect them and stuff. Does anybody have The Kids Are Alright, the movie from the who that thing is gold its on dvd.

drugstore cowboy 08-01-2005 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Wow! A vinyl discussion. I have The Who Sing My Generation, Tommy, Live at Leeds,(complete with fake tour documents) Who's Next (two of those), Qradrophenia (a 25 year old CBS label Japenese import) The Who By Numbers, Who Are You, Face Dances, It's Hard, Who's Last, and Townshends first three early eighties solo albums all on vinyl. And in pretty good shape, all.

[SIZE=5]ENVY ME![/SIZE] :p[/QUOTE]

Da[i]m[/i]n. You win. But that would only be the most stripped down version of Live at Leeds, right? Still, that's an amazing Who collection of records.

zekterellium 08-01-2005 08:40 PM

amazing band. good write up, dude,

JohnXDoesn't 08-01-2005 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=drugstore cowboy]Da[i]m[/i]n. You win. But that would only be the most stripped down version of Live at Leeds, right? Still, that's an amazing Who collection of records.[/QUOTE]

I forgot to mention The Kid's Are Alright soundtrack and The Concerts For The People Of Kampuchea, as well. :p

The Who have an entire side on the latter. Good performance, too. Oh, and yes. It is the single disc version of Live At Leeds.

EDIT: I also have Pete Townshend: Live At Deep End on vinyl. I only have around 400 vinyl albums, so I don't know how I forget these things? I guess it's because I hardly ever listen to them. :rolleyes:

Lunch 08-02-2005 07:51 PM

Wow, only 400 albums. How unlucky you are.

(Sarcasm)

Riva 08-02-2005 07:59 PM

Lunch, would you recommend I purchase Live at Leeds? Also, get your lunch998 account merged with Lunch, so you can get credited properly for this FA. ;)

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Lunch, would you recommend I purchase Live at Leeds? Also, get your lunch998 account merged with Lunch, so you can get credited properly for this FA. ;)[/QUOTE]

Purchase it right now at all costs. There's no two ways about it. I highly recommend the deluxe edition (though it won't come cheap) because you get almost all of Tommy performed on disc 2 in addition to the already fantastic disc 1. Of course I love Tommy so it was essential for me, it might not be for you.

And Jim just edited this account to my old postcount/join date, I sill have access to lunch998 with 6,000+ posts on it. So I can't really get a merge.

JohnXDoesn't 08-02-2005 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Wow, only 400 albums. How unlucky you are.

(Sarcasm)[/QUOTE]

:wave:

Eh, it really isn't that many. Looking at them they don't stretch very far. Hope your visit went well and The Who rocked you the whole way there. And back, as well.

robo2448 08-02-2005 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Purchase it right now at all costs. There's no two ways about it. I highly recommend the deluxe edition (though it won't come cheap) because you get almost all of Tommy performed on disc 2 in addition to the already fantastic disc 1. Of course I love Tommy so it was essential for me, it might not be for you.

And Jim just edited this account to my old postcount/join date, I sill have access to lunch998 with 6,000+ posts on it. So I can't really get a merge.[/QUOTE]

Definitely fork over the extra cash for the deluxe edition if you can.

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:08 PM

Probably the best $30 I ever spent.

drugstore cowboy 08-02-2005 08:09 PM

I think this thread says alot about Who fans on this board compared to, say, Led Zeppelin, or Tool fans. We're a minority. We being diehard and semi diehard Who fans anyways, and not just casual listeners.

It just goes to show that for a majority of the time they were together, they were an underground, cult favourite type band. Not to a huge extent, but they still were. It was only when they started playing big arena rock (when Keith Moon got a second row of toms in front of the first) that they drew the huge audiences.

Riva 08-02-2005 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Purchase it right now at all costs. There's no two ways about it. I highly recommend the deluxe edition (though it won't come cheap) because you get almost all of Tommy performed on disc 2 in addition to the already fantastic disc 1. Of course I love Tommy so it was essential for me, it might not be for you. [/quote]

Hehe, first Who album I bought was Tommy. ;)

[quote=Lunch]
And Jim just edited this account to my old postcount/join date, I sill have access to lunch998 with 6,000+ posts on it. So I can't really get a merge.[/QUOTE]

Get a merge. You've got the street cred to do so.

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:10 PM

Tommy....*creams thinking about it*

Ha, a merge would give me around 13,000 posts (6,000 of which I wouldn't have earned).

JohnXDoesn't 08-02-2005 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=drugstore cowboy]I think this thread says alot about Who fans on this board compared to, say, Led Zeppelin, or Tool fans. We're a minority. We being diehard and semi diehard Who fans anyways, and not just casual listeners.

It just goes to show that for a majority of the time they were together, they were an underground, cult favourite type band. Not to a huge extent, but they still were. It was only when they started playing big arena rock (when Keith Moon got a second row of toms in front of the first) that they drew the huge audiences.[/QUOTE]

The Who were always the underdogs of arena rock bands. No blistering solo's, drum, guitar, or otherwise. No pretty boy posturing or look at me we are so cool posing. No flash, no trends ('cept for Roger) and no BS. Almost no pretention. And when they did drift that way, they pulled it off in gramd artistic fashion. They simply plugged in, turned it up, and kicked a[COLOR=WHITE]ss[/COLOR]. There music is fresh and vital even today, and they still influence and inspire a great many. With The Who, what you see and hear is what you get. No more and certainly no less.

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:21 PM

That's always been one of the cooler things about them. They never had glamour in rock and the didn't have a pretty face in the group, so they had to make up for that by forging a new path in rock music, one of frustration, destruction, and volume. Even later Roger was still no pretty boy though he had much wider appeal. Pure energy and great music, and like John said no more or less.

drugstore cowboy 08-02-2005 08:22 PM

Amen, brother. While other bands used imagry and illusion, the Who would just come right out and kick you in the balls.

The greatest things I've ever read are on thewho.net, where they compile all the reviews, both professional and from audience members, of all the shows the Who ever performed. The majority of the audience member reviews describe how the felt physically intimidated by the sheer power. That's just the music, and their presence, with (like JohnXDoe said), no costumes or anything. No bands do that today.

Riva 08-02-2005 08:28 PM

That being said, they did have showmanship. You can see that from Pete's windmill, and Roger's stage presence. It was that showmanship that caused people to feel overwhelmed.

However, dc, I have to admit a few bands today do give the audience a sense of power. Though the Who probably did it the best.

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:31 PM

The group is just entertaining to watch. Pete flying all over the stage, Moon looking like an octopus, Daltrey screaming, and even Entwistle standing around looking uninterested (watch his hands rather than his body for some interest). In my mind they were the best show in rock music.

drugstore cowboy 08-02-2005 08:34 PM

Yeah, I can't really say that no bands do it today, but certainly the Who pioneered that sort of performing.

Who haven't we discussed yet...How about a big hand for Keith Moon, everyone? Certainly he gave one of the most unique elements to the Who's sound, no matter how big his drum set was. It's funny that when he was young and totally hyperactive on the drums, he only used a 4 or 5 piece. Then, at the end of his career, he's got a gargantuan drum set, and he just couldn't play as fast or be as dynamic on the drums. Sad, really. I would have liked to hear 1969-1971 era Keith Moon on one of his later sets.

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:38 PM

During those years, he did enough on his 9-10 piece kits to constitute two drummers. Though he wasn't know for soloing, you get the feeling that on Live at Leeds if the other three guys just stopped playing the left the stage, you'd have an amazing solo performance from Moon. The wall of sound he created is just incredible.

JohnXDoesn't 08-02-2005 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=drugstore cowboy]Amen, brother. While other bands used imagry and illusion, the Who would just come right out and kick you in the balls.

The greatest things I've ever read are on thewho.net, where they compile all the reviews, both professional and from audience members, of all the shows the Who ever performed. The majority of the audience member reviews describe how the felt physically intimidated by the sheer power. That's just the music, and their presence, with (like JohnXDoe said), no costumes or anything. No bands do that today.[/QUOTE]

It's true. There music was [I]physical[/I]. It hit you right between the eyes. And still does. I think everyone here would enjoy The Who Live in Boston. Rent it or pick it up for $10 on Amazon.com, where you will also find reviews from fans. They are just great. Tommy is represented in the encores and there is a meloncholy Quadrophenia section in the middle. A great re-thought version of Sea & Sand is included. Somewhat low key. And an outstanding Another Tricky Day and The Kid's Are Alright, too. As well as Bargain, Eminence Front, and Relay. The whole thing is good.

The Who are what I have really based all my other [I]favorite[/I] bands on. From [B]X[/B] to The Clash to The Replacemnts to The Pixies, these were and are still bands who will kick your a[COLOR=WHITE]ss[/COLOR] and save the BS for some other band. Man I love The Who. As a fan they have given more to me then any other band.

drugstore cowboy 08-02-2005 08:45 PM

He left conventional drumming at the door. Those two booming bass drums were a huge help in making the sound. There's a part at the Isle of Wight, during the melody of Shakin' All Over/Spoonful/Twist and Shout. I think it's after spoonful. Anyways, he just lets loose with this thunderous beat while Pete solos over top of it. It's really like never ending, rolling thunder.

One of his more used techniques was his triplets between bass and two toms. He inserted those into songs like none other. Those and countless other rolls and fills where any other drummer would just use the high hat to keep a beat.

I think Keith Moon had a different, and really good, idea of what drums were back in his glory days. He used his three cymbals as punctuation, and alot of times just kept the beat using the toms and the snare.

Good drummer.

Lunch 08-02-2005 08:49 PM

He was a very special character to say the least.

His impeccable timing and actually good sense of touch and melody are often underrated. Tommy, for example, is packed with great drumming, constant fills and so on, yet the drums never over-power the song and ruin it. He managed to make his style fit in perfectly.

His great timing again can be found just on Tommy. Take, for example, Sparks and the Underture. The rhythm my appear easy, but I've tried to play it numerous times and it is much more difficult than it sounds. It is very unconvential but yet again he was able to deploy his natural style to a complex timing scheme and make it work.

JohnXDoesn't 08-02-2005 08:51 PM

Hey Cowboy, have you seen Who TV?

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/[/url]

There is a rare Moon drum solo included. Although I think he has a bit of help from a bongo player. Whom you never see. In any case, for all intents and purposes it's a solo. The footage is played in a loop so you have to wait for it to roll around. But the wait isn't that long.

drugstore cowboy 08-02-2005 09:06 PM

Yeah, I've checked out that Who TV. Is the solo the one with the clear drumset? And the fish in one of the floor toms? Now there's a wall of sound.

Some of the stuff on who TV is a little weird. That being the "Tommy party", where some kid sings Pinball Wizard, rather badly, accompanied by a backing band and Pete on guitar. There's a whole sh[i]i[/i]tload of good stuff though. I wish they put "Naked Eye" on the Isle of Wight dvd, though. It's one of my favourite Who songs.


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