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lynch_me 04-19-2005 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=3qtzDrunk]this is from streetlights website:

the whole "2" debacle is half truth, half fiction. very few people know what actually is going down and those people, ironically, are the only ones keeping quiet. people will speculate and talk trash regardless, so be it. at the end of the day, we're simply doing something we believe in, a part of a whole that won't be entirely unveiled for quite some time. everyone sit tight, it'll all come together eventually, then you can judge.

this we can tell you:
a) there are no numbers involved. don't even ask how that happened, it's ridiculous

b) no new songs, really. but you'll be surprised, hopefully pleasantly.

c) we're doing this to prevent you from spending money unnecessarily. you'll understand that soon as well.

d) trust us. we try to do the right thing as much as possible, and our number one priority, as always, is the music.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't even make any sense. What are they reffering to?

skankinBassist 04-19-2005 05:10 PM

i guess the CD. About the "II" and what songs are actually on it.

3qtzDrunk 04-19-2005 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=skankinBassist]i guess the CD. About the "II" and what songs are actually on it.[/QUOTE]
im guessing that too. its even up on victorys site as keasbey nights 2, but streetlight is saying that all this ''2'' stuff is BS. it seems their own label dosent even know what they are up to, wierd...

mr.k 04-19-2005 06:22 PM

im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike

3qtzDrunk 04-19-2005 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=mr.k]im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike[/QUOTE]

huh???

TheNowhereman42 04-19-2005 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=mr.k]im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike[/QUOTE]

uh, don't think so

supercoolguy 04-19-2005 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]As some of you might know Streetlight when they play Point/Countpoint live they play keasby Nights in the middle of it. There have been live mp3 floatinf around, but last night I was bored and decided to put together a botched recorded version using the 2 cd's.

So here it is to my botched edit of Point/Keasby Nights/Counterpoint.
[url]http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1AT0O372NT9HU0M34GPXDFTR4H[/url][/QUOTE]
thats awesome

Brendan 04-19-2005 08:16 PM

yeah it is really strange how they are so elusive about dates and progress. i think they do it on purpose almost because it builds anticipation.

moment of silence and moment of vilence definately sound alike, what are you listening to? infact they were made to sound that way on purpose, hence the simaler titles.

sk8ska, what program did you use to make that mp3? i was thinking put like a second of space inbetween the songs and it would sound a little better. sounds pretty cool though, maybe a preview almost of what number 2 is going to sound like?

Let's Chop Cats! 04-19-2005 08:19 PM

Audacity, you can find it for free at [url]www.download.com[/url]

obese_breasts 04-19-2005 11:13 PM

Too all you talking about the new record, I do recall SM saying not to trust anything unless it is on their site.

Great band and nice job reiner.

SickBoy 04-20-2005 12:36 PM

im seeing them on saturday apparently

skankinBassist 04-20-2005 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=mr.k]im guessing that this new cd will sound nothing like the original Keasby nights because A moment of violence was a redo of a moment of silence and those two songs dont really sound very much alike[/QUOTE]


Are you kidding me? They aren't going to punk out every song on Keasbey Nights.

And one more thing. Those two songs have the EXACT SAME chord progression. The only difference= it's distorted and faster.

Scabies 04-20-2005 02:54 PM

a better place, a better time is such an amazing song.

IHeartDisco 04-20-2005 03:10 PM

I love Streetlight. Going to see them Monday in London! No they arent working on a new album as they are touring Europe atm, but Im sure they might after the tour is finished

Jessizzle 04-20-2005 03:15 PM

Theres so many of SLM threads, but Its an amazing band none the less, But for the past couple weeks iv been into Catch 22 more... The one thing i dont get is that some people seem to think eveything after c/22 's first album was crap, but then SLM is the greatest thing to ever happen to ska.

skankinBassist 04-20-2005 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=PaintSteveGreen]Theres so many of SLM threads, but Its an amazing band none the less, But for the past couple weeks iv been into Catch 22 more... The one thing i dont get is that some people seem to think eveything after c/22 's first album was crap, but then SLM is the greatest thing to ever happen to ska.[/QUOTE]


SLM didnt really do anything to ska. They aren't really a ska band. And Tomas was an incredible creative force for Catch 22. So when he left, yes, everything Catch 22 did after that sucked. Except for "Alone in the Crowd".

Jessizzle 04-20-2005 04:27 PM

Im Just saying what I Hear, personally i like it all.

3qtzDrunk 04-20-2005 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=skankinBassist]SLM didnt really do anything to ska. They aren't really a ska band. And Tomas was an incredible creative force for Catch 22. So when he left, yes, everything Catch 22 did after that sucked. Except for "Alone in the Crowd".[/QUOTE]

I hate it when a band puts out an amazing first album and everyone says that everything after that is crap. I see it with catch 22, Dropkick Murphys, buch of other bands too. Its probably not even fair to compare their other albums to Keasbey, that became a classic immeaditley, but Alone In A Crowd is still a very very very good cd. And as far as Dinosaur Sounds goes, everyone is getting on Ryan saying he is a horrible song writer, but he wrote a lot of the songs from AIAC. Personally, i still like Dinosaur Sounds, but everyone is writing them off too quickley i think, bands do put out albums that not everyone thinks is amazing, and they are still an incredible live band.

SantaDuJuan 04-20-2005 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=skankinBassist]SLM didnt really do anything to ska. [B]They aren't really a ska band.[/B] And Tomas was an incredible creative force for Catch 22. So when he left, yes, everything Catch 22 did after that sucked. Except for "Alone in the Crowd".[/QUOTE]


No one likes you anymore. :angry:

Jessizzle 04-20-2005 05:15 PM

Haha i missed that, so how are they not a ska band?

skankinBassist 04-20-2005 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=PaintSteveGreen]Haha i missed that, so how are they not a ska band?[/QUOTE]


Not very many upbeats on the guitar. The bass lines are very complicated. They play some straight forward distorted guitar stuff. Etc.

Jessizzle 04-20-2005 05:22 PM

So, Its Third wavee.?? ( Claiming to be 4th) Its Still Ska.

skankinBassist 04-20-2005 05:24 PM

Bah! Not in my book. But what the hell! They are still in my top 5 favorite bands!

SantaDuJuan 04-20-2005 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=skankinBassist]Not very many upbeats on the guitar. The bass lines are very complicated. They play some straight forward distorted guitar stuff. Etc.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

N3rd.

Kithkin 04-20-2005 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=3qtzDrunk]I hate it when a band puts out an amazing first album and everyone says that everything after that is crap. I see it with catch 22, Dropkick Murphys, buch of other bands too. Its probably not even fair to compare their other albums to Keasbey, that became a classic immeaditley, but Alone In A Crowd is still a very very very good cd. And as far as Dinosaur Sounds goes, everyone is getting on Ryan saying he is a horrible song writer, but he wrote a lot of the songs from AIAC. Personally, i still like Dinosaur Sounds, but everyone is writing them off too quickley i think, bands do put out albums that not everyone thinks is amazing, and they are still an incredible live band.[/QUOTE]


The difference between catch 22 and those other bands is that Catch lost its voice and creative force. Catch 22 post Thomas is a different band. They didn't just lose thomas either, they also lost the bassist ( i think). The only thing better about the new catch 22 is the horn section's skill. But that doesn't mean they write any better horn lines. Catch 22 didn't really sound like anything else before. And they maintained that in Alone in a Crowd. But Dinosaur Sounds sounds like a sublime cover bands writing their own material.

Let's Chop Cats! 04-20-2005 07:15 PM

They lost their bassist (Josh Ansley) and their trombonist (Jamie Egan) to SLM with Thomas.

Then C22 later went on to lose 2 guitarists, a lead singer, and I think a drummer.

3qtzDrunk 04-20-2005 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]They lost their bassist (Josh Ansley) and their trombonist (Jamie Egan) to SLM with Thomas.

Then C22 later went on to lose 2 guitarists, a lead singer, and I think a drummer.[/QUOTE]

the drummer is still the same as they have always had, but im lost as far as them losing 2 guitartsts. I thought Pat came in right after Thomas left, was there one in betweet that im not aware of?

Let's Chop Cats! 04-20-2005 07:42 PM

Comparing when I saw them they had a different guitarist. One time was maybe a year and few months ago and the time before that was like 2 years ago. It's possible it's the same guy and I'm just an idiot, but I don't remember them looking the same at all.

3qtzDrunk 04-20-2005 07:46 PM

Yea true, i think he used to have long hair and a goatee and was really shady looking, but i think he just got a haircut.

metty16 04-20-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=3qtzDrunk]I hate it when a band puts out an amazing first album and everyone says that everything after that is crap. I see it with catch 22, [B]Dropkick Murphys[/B], buch of other bands too. Its probably not even fair to compare their other albums to Keasbey, that became a classic immeaditley, but Alone In A Crowd is still a very very very good cd. And as far as Dinosaur Sounds goes, everyone is getting on Ryan saying he is a horrible song writer, but he wrote a lot of the songs from AIAC. Personally, i still like Dinosaur Sounds, but everyone is writing them off too quickley i think, bands do put out albums that not everyone thinks is amazing, and they are still an incredible live band.[/QUOTE]


dropkick murphy's had more then one good album.

Blackout-has one or two good songs
Sing Loud, Sing Pround- awesome
Do or Die- good
Singles collections 1 and 2- Amazing


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