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Kosta 05-21-2005 06:20 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]East Coast rap started out as pretty harmless stuff--Run-DMC, the Beasties, Biz Markie, etc. The king of East Coast was Russell Simmons and Def Jam. Then later on it moved into Gangsta Rap in the 90's with Biggie Smalls, Jay-Z, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, DMX, etc.

West Coast rap came Straight Outta Compton (yuk yuk yuk)--it was far angrier and more abrasive (signature West Coast rap: NWA, Ice-T); West Coast rap evolved into G-Funk in the 90's with the creation of Death Row records and the release of Dr. Dre's The Chronic.[/QUOTE]


West Coast rap came from Compton but wasn't angry. It started in the early '80s by the likes of the Egyptian Lover and The World Class Wreckin' Cru. It was electro-funk, a techno'ish hip-hop for people to dance to. The first form of gangster rap came from the East, too. Schoolly D actually started it. But, the first true gangster rap song was 6 In The Mornin' by Ice-T. And both Ice-T and NWA had completely different sounds. NWA was A LOT more P-funk inluenced. And underground West coast stuff (Pharcyde, Alkaholiks, Blackalicious, Freestyle Fellowship, Souls Of Mischief) had much more in common with the jazzy hip-hop from the East, than the West Coast funk from the West.

And East Coast started with block parties. Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five, Afrika Bambaata, etc. I'm surprised you didn't list Kurtis Blow. Run-DMC, Krs, Beasties, etc. Are more of a second wave, really. Also, Wu-Tang isn't gangster but hardcore rap.

Kosta 05-21-2005 06:22 AM

[QUOTE=SmashingPumpkin]Can't spell crap without rap. :)[/QUOTE]


OMFGLOLROTFLMFAOBBQ

lolz and u cant spell metal without ETA. LOLZ i guess iron maiden R terroristsz.

ThrashMaster27 05-21-2005 07:53 AM

Has anyone got any Geto Boys songs on their comps. Preferably Crooked Officer. I lost my 'Till Death Do Us Part' album agessss ago. Anyone a fan of Scarface's solo stuff? I love The Diary, but the rest is a bit on and off.

NP: Roots Manuva - Evil Rabbit

Kosta 05-21-2005 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]Has anyone got any Geto Boys songs on their comps. Preferably Crooked Officer. I lost my 'Till Death Do Us Part' album agessss ago. Anyone a fan of Scarface's solo stuff? I love The Diary, but the rest is a bit on and off.[/QUOTE]

I haven't listened to the Geto Boys in aaaages. Pretty good stuff, though.

Forest_Fire 05-21-2005 08:25 PM

All of this rap thread and no one uploaded a public enemy or NWA album?


/knows that someone probably did, but doesn't want to go back and read through the whole thread, but still hints at what he wants uploaded anyway

Kosta 05-21-2005 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=Ska_Pirate]All of this rap thread and no one uploaded a public enemy or NWA album?


/knows that someone probably did, but doesn't want to go back and read through the whole thread, but still hints at what he wants uploaded anyway[/QUOTE]


That's like uploading Metallica in a metal thread. Everyone knows those guys.

Forest_Fire 05-21-2005 09:03 PM

I know. But I don't want to go out and buy any cds for another month or two because I'm saving up for a bass I really want

morrissey 05-21-2005 09:25 PM

Then use alternate sources to get the songs.

the_midnight_rambler 05-22-2005 05:41 AM

i dont get how raps R&M

morrissey 05-22-2005 06:19 AM

[QUOTE=the_midnight_rambler]i dont get how raps R&M[/QUOTE]
Read the thread, issue has been addressed.

Iai 05-22-2005 07:38 AM

[QUOTE=the_midnight_rambler]i dont get how raps R&M[/QUOTE]
Seriously? Wow.

Jimmy 05-22-2005 06:45 PM

The only rap I'll listen to is MC Hawking. "All my shooting's be... drivebys" What a genius

Moses 05-22-2005 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=the_midnight_rambler]i dont get how raps R&M[/QUOTE]
The R in R&M stands for Rap, didn't you know? :confused:

Macdaddy 05-23-2005 10:15 AM

Outkast are the new de la soul imo.

Reinvigorating hip hop and giving it a second wind. Also New Zealander Scribe is pretty good for some new stuff.

ATM 05-23-2005 12:27 PM

[url]http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1EM2OA8ZT02DH2GIDMWFPYB0OC[/url]

Handsome Boy Modeling School - White People

A great album.

3rdplanet 05-23-2005 05:17 PM

I like HBMS.

What do people think of DJ Premier? Just heard the name dropped.

Robert Crumb 05-23-2005 07:01 PM

DJ Premier is awesome, one of the best producers of the 90's.

knockwurst_myband 05-23-2005 10:53 PM

the roots are my favorite rap next to outkast :thumb:, along with old school and political rap(when rap wasn't always about the same generic topics, getting as[B]s[/B], the ghetto, and all that other bs) and the only new rap I like is probably the gorillaz.

hafez 05-24-2005 12:34 AM

[QUOTE=Ska_Pirate]I know. But I don't want to go out and buy any cds for another month or two because I'm saving up for a bass I really want[/QUOTE]

i have "Straight outta compton" if you really want

AIM: hafez06

rbv 05-24-2005 01:26 AM

I think that UK rap should be mentioned as I think bands such as The Streets have amazing lyrical talents and go beyond what most people think of rap. I would highly recommend downloading "dry your eyes mate" or "blinded by light" for anyone who enjoys good music

ThrashMaster27 05-24-2005 01:32 AM

I don't like the Streets, although I do like a fair bit of UK Rap. If anyone can pick up any early stuff from Blak Twang, I highly recommend it. There's also the more popular artists like Roots Manuva, Rodney P, Broke 'N' English, Braintax etc etc.

Anyway, yeah. It does deserve a mention.

rbv 05-24-2005 01:35 AM

awesome, I admit i am a bit uninformed when it comes to rap in general though, thanks :thumb:

morrissey 05-24-2005 01:36 AM

Yeah I really like the Streets.

martyr of metal 05-24-2005 04:57 AM

i only like beastie boys on the side

hypocracy hater 05-24-2005 12:09 PM

I like the Sugahill Gang, NWA, Jay Z and the bEASTIE bOYS.

Interstate 05-24-2005 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]I haven't seen Eric B & Rakim mentioned yet, though surely they must have been.

Paid In Full = utter classic. Rakim easily has one of the best flows I've ever heard - maybe the best.[/QUOTE]

Brilliant album, one of my favourites.

On a random note - can anyone recommend which is the best album to buy by these artists/groups:

Mobb Deep
Jay Z
Onyx
Jedi Mind Tricks
Slick Rick
De La Soul (I have some songs off [I]3 Feet & Rising[/I] and I love them but I don't know whether the album is considered their best).

Thanks in advance! :thumb:

Illmatic 05-24-2005 02:57 PM

Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
De La Soul - 3 Feet & Rising

Zesty Mordant 05-24-2005 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=lostandalone2]Brilliant album, one of my favourites.

On a random note - can anyone recommend which is the best album to buy by these artists/groups:

De La Soul (I have some songs off [I]3 Feet & Rising[/I] and I love them but I don't know whether the album is considered their best).

Thanks in advance! :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Definately get [I]3 Feet High & Rising[/I] first. As well check out their most recent album, [I]The Grind Date[/I]. Though it is certainly a departure from [I]3 Feet[/I], it is nonetheless very impressive imo and kinda follows that path similar to Common, Talib Kweli, and Mos Def (if you're a fan of that).

Interstate 05-24-2005 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
De La Soul - 3 Feet & Rising[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=rory_breaker]Definately get [I]3 Feet High & Rising[/I] first. As well check out their most recent album, [I]The Grind Date[/I]. Though it is certainly a departure from [I]3 Feet[/I], it is nonetheless very impressive imo and kinda follows that path similar to Common, Talib Kweli, and Mos Def (if you're a fan of that).[/QUOTE]

Thanks, both of you - I think I'll download some songs from those albums you mentioned (I think some songs I have are already from those albums) and then download/buy those ones. :thumb:

Zesty Mordant 05-24-2005 03:55 PM

For De La Soul, some suggestions for downloading:

[I]3 Feet High & Rising[/I]:
Me, Myself, and I
The Magic Number
Potholes in my Lawn
Jenifa Taught Me (Derwin's Revenge)
Eye Know

[I]The Grind Date[/I]:
Verbal Clap
Shopping Bags
The Grind Date
The Future
He Comes


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