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MAthiAS 04-01-2005 05:07 PM

Slayer haven't stayed the same... fu[b][i][/b][/i]ck, Reign in Blood and South of Heaven are totally different.

whatduffhuck7 04-01-2005 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Slayer haven't stayed the same... fu[b][i][/b][/i]ck, Reign in Blood and South of Heaven are totally different.[/QUOTE]
they did a whole album on just punk covers. and listen to show no mercy, then listen to south of heaven. and tell me there isnt a difference.

[QUOTE]Megadeth, Metallica and even Anthrax have explored other sides of music but Slayer have stayed in the same box for their whole career and that, to me, is uninspiring.[/QUOTE]

slayer has explored more than megadeth. and nobody would want slayer to go as far as metallica. there later albums arnt even listenable. (except garage inc)

heavy metal kid 04-01-2005 05:28 PM

Slayer is a awesome band that not everybody like,they haven't stay the same,but doesn't experiment to much with their music.

slayer rules.

SSSnake... 04-01-2005 06:11 PM

They have had their experimental periods (South of Heaven, Undisputed Attitude). But for the most part have been pretty uncompromising to their initial blueprint.

ToRidTheDisease 04-01-2005 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=xKaedonx]Tom can barely produce a note with his voice. Its barely in key. And if you are telling me Kerry King hasnt written anything significant for Slayer youre dead wrong. Nothing Slayer has ever done has shown a bit of depth. Its all the same.[/QUOTE]
Please, just leave.

Six Foot Revolver 04-01-2005 06:36 PM

I have got reign in blood and think it is a very good album. Can some one recommend me another album for me to get?

heavy metal kid 04-01-2005 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=MXican]I have got reign in blood and think it is a very good album. Can some one recommend me another album for me to get?[/QUOTE]

Hell awaits
Seasons in the abyss
Decade of agression:live

SSSnake... 04-01-2005 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=MXican]I have got reign in blood and think it is a very good album. Can some one recommend me another album for me to get?[/QUOTE]

'God Hates Us All' maybe? I love 'Seasons in the Abyss' too. Try one of those.

xKaedonx 04-01-2005 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=SSSnake...]They have had their experimental periods (South of Heaven, Undisputed Attitude). But for the most part have been pretty uncompromising to their initial blueprint.[/QUOTE]


Opeth, Tool, these are EXPERIMENTAL bands. Metallica and Megadeth actually changed their sound. Slayer never did and Slayer never will because, well I dunno, I have a few strong guesses but I dunno.

Oh and just because a metal band does an album of Punk covers doesnt mean they changed their style. When Metallica covered the Ramones, you could tell it was Tallica. Same with Attitude.

TheCrimsonKing 04-01-2005 08:08 PM

Screw you guys that dont like Slayer you should burn in hell!
Anyways metallica tried to experiment and for the most part look what happened...no one liked it too much. Slayer isnt going to make a freakin album with funky synth in the background and sound effects coming from all sides. They arent going to make an acoustic album. There is a reason for this....they are Slayer. They want to put out heavy music that stays fast and evil.
To say Slayer has no depth is false. Listen to Rain in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons.., and God Hates Us ALL. They are all Slayer and they sound similiar but at the same time have great songs that are all different. they do use somewhat similiar riffs though. Saying well all Slayer songs sound the same is kind of weird because they are in a way supposed to sound the same but somewhat different at the same time. IF you dont like Slayer dont post.
Now I also enjoy Tool, Opeth, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and many other bands that experiment with their music..actually I love many of them more than Slayer..BUT SLAYER DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LIKE TOOL OPETH IT ISNT THEIR STYLE TO EXPERIMENT UNLESS YOU WANT SLAYER TO SOUND COMPLETELY DIFFERENT..IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

SSSnake... 04-01-2005 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=xKaedonx]Opeth, Tool, these are EXPERIMENTAL bands. Metallica and Megadeth actually changed their sound. Slayer never did and Slayer never will because, well I dunno, I have a few strong guesses but I dunno.

Oh and just because a metal band does an album of Punk covers doesnt mean they changed their style. When Metallica covered the Ramones, you could tell it was Tallica. Same with Attitude.[/QUOTE]

I never said they were an experimental BAND, but that they had experimental PERIODS in their career. Get it right. One of Slayer's biggest attributes are that they play incredibly fast. So to say 'South of Heaven' - an album where they slowed down to the point of songs being able to be classed as doom - was not experimentation is absolutely ridiculous.

And as I clearly stated (which makes me wonder why you chose my statement as a quote) they've stuck to their blueprint very closely for the most part.

ThrashHead 04-01-2005 09:26 PM

No way.
 
[QUOTE=xKaedonx]Slayer realize why people like them, because they make very brutal music. Its hard, its fast, its uncompromising, and after 2 albums, it gets boring, at least to me. Megadeth, Metallica and even Anthrax have explored other sides of music but Slayer have stayed in the same box for their whole career and that, to me, is uninspiring.[/QUOTE]


Man.. you don't know what you're talking about. Look at undisputed attitude. That album went totally punk. And Divine Intervention.. totally different. But people have different opinons. I personally think Slayer is great.

Deth 04-01-2005 09:30 PM

I like Slayer but find themselves repeating themselves though. I think they have the ability to expand their music ability, but because they don't they get boring to me.

ThrashHead 04-01-2005 09:39 PM

I guess people seem to find them repetitive because they use chromatic scales with the fifth interval alot. Such as Rainning Blood, Dead Skin Mask, South of Heaven, and Disciple. But whatever.. they make kick-*** use of it and make awesome ****ing metal.

Deth 04-01-2005 09:50 PM

I agree, they have some great songs, but all my favorite bands are able to strech out and challenge themselves and their listeners, Slayer doesn't.

whatduffhuck7 04-01-2005 10:19 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I agree, they have some great songs, but all my favorite bands are able to strech out and challenge themselves and their listeners, Slayer doesn't.[/QUOTE]
THEY DID A ALL PUNK ALBUM. THEY ARE USSUALLY THRASH.

that is trying something new. that is expermenting with there sound. god dam. i would personally like them to stay exacly the same as they are, just make new great thrash songs. but thats not gonna happen. god hates us all (there newest cd) is MUCH different than show no mercy.

RiotUpstart 04-01-2005 10:29 PM

Which Album is the album that slayer did punk? i might check that out.

ThrashHead 04-01-2005 10:31 PM

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]THEY DID A ALL PUNK ALBUM. THEY ARE USSUALLY THRASH.

that is trying something new. that is expermenting with there sound. god dam. i would personally like them to stay exacly the same as they are, just make new great thrash songs. but thats not gonna happen. god hates us all (there newest cd) is MUCH different than show no mercy.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that's completely true. SNM talked about the devil, demons and hell, while Undisputed Attitude talked about getting drunk and beating up moms.

Hit her car
Smash it up
Pull her out
Beat her up
Take her money
Run her down

Can't find any beer
It's way past two
There's just one thing
we can do

Hit her car
Smash it up
Pull her out
Beat her up
Take her money
Run her down
Drive her face out of town

whatduffhuck7 04-01-2005 10:32 PM

undisputed attitude

ThrashHead 04-01-2005 10:38 PM

Undisputed Attitude
 
[QUOTE=RiotUpstart]Which Album is the album that slayer did punk? i might check that out.[/QUOTE]


Undisputed Attitude is they're punk album. If you like punk I guess I'd recomend it. But I don't like punk all that much so I found this album dissapointing.

whatduffhuck7 04-01-2005 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=ThrashHead]Undisputed Attitude is they're punk album. If you like punk I guess I'd recomend it. But I don't like punk all that much so I found this album dissapointing.[/QUOTE]
same here. when i got it i didnt know it was a all punk album, i was confused on how much it sucked.

xKaedonx 04-02-2005 01:16 AM

[QUOTE=Slayerisgod]Screw you guys that dont like Slayer you should burn in hell!
Anyways metallica tried to experiment and for the most part look what happened...no one liked it too much. Slayer isnt going to make a freakin album with funky synth in the background and sound effects coming from all sides. They arent going to make an acoustic album. There is a reason for this....they are Slayer. They want to put out heavy music that stays fast and evil.
To say Slayer has no depth is false. Listen to Rain in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons.., and God Hates Us ALL. They are all Slayer and they sound similiar but at the same time have great songs that are all different. they do use somewhat similiar riffs though. Saying well all Slayer songs sound the same is kind of weird because they are in a way supposed to sound the same but somewhat different at the same time. IF you dont like Slayer dont post.
Now I also enjoy Tool, Opeth, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and many other bands that experiment with their music..actually I love many of them more than Slayer..BUT SLAYER DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LIKE TOOL OPETH IT ISNT THEIR STYLE TO EXPERIMENT UNLESS YOU WANT SLAYER TO SOUND COMPLETELY DIFFERENT..IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?[/QUOTE]


Yes that is what I want. Slayer, except on this last album have taken almost no musical chances, and thats even stretching it for the last one, especially when it comes to the lyrics.

xKaedonx 04-02-2005 01:18 AM

[QUOTE=SSSnake...]I never said they were an experimental BAND, but that they had experimental PERIODS in their career. Get it right. One of Slayer's biggest attributes are that they play incredibly fast. So to say 'South of Heaven' - an album where they slowed down to the point of songs being able to be classed as doom - was not experimentation is absolutely ridiculous.

And as I clearly stated (which makes me wonder why you chose my statement as a quote) they've stuck to their blueprint very closely for the most part.[/QUOTE]


Playing slow does not count as experimentation. Risk, Load, ReLoad, S&M, St. Anger, Bring Da Noise, these are risks. Slayer have taken babysteps in comparison.

xKaedonx 04-02-2005 01:20 AM

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]THEY DID A ALL PUNK ALBUM. THEY ARE USSUALLY THRASH.

that is trying something new. that is expermenting with there sound. god dam. i would personally like them to stay exacly the same as they are, just make new great thrash songs. but thats not gonna happen. god hates us all (there newest cd) is MUCH different than show no mercy.[/QUOTE]


Punk and Metal were married long before Slayer, sorry.

Kurtz 04-02-2005 02:10 AM

[QUOTE=MXican]I have got reign in blood and think it is a very good album. Can some one recommend me another album for me to get?[/QUOTE]
Hell Awaits, then South of Heaven.

SOH is their best imo.

SLATANIC-666 04-02-2005 02:18 AM

[QUOTE=xKaedonx]Playing slow does not count as experimentation. Risk, Load, ReLoad, S&M, St. Anger, Bring Da Noise, these are risks. Slayer have taken babysteps in comparison.[/QUOTE]

I'm afraid you're wrong on this one. Slayer have collaberated with rap and techno artists in the past. They collaberated with Ice-T on a song called Disorder which was for a film soundtrack and they also did a song for the film 'Spawn' called 'No Remorse - I Wanna Die' with a German techno band called Atari Teenage Riot :thumb:

SSSnake... 04-02-2005 08:55 AM

[QUOTE=xKaedonx]Playing slow does not count as experimentation. Risk, Load, ReLoad, S&M, St. Anger, Bring Da Noise, these are risks. Slayer have taken babysteps in comparison.[/QUOTE]

I don't know why I'm even bothering with this, but how is playing another genre of metal not experimentation?! Going from 250+bpm to 100 changes the listening experience and the affect on the listener immensely. The atmosphere at a live gig would switch instantly. If you don't think that you're a douchebag. Simple as. It's like saying there's no difference between Burning Witch and Mistress. Or when I went to a Grindcore festival and saw Pig Destroyer and a drone band called Halo next to each other, it didn't change fu.ck all. Believe me, it changed everything.

Time is one of the biggest factors in music. And experimenting with time is experimenting, period.

beatyourheartout 04-02-2005 09:40 AM

Hi

I haven't listened to much Slayer at all and was wondering if there were any good songs to start me up and give me a fairly good idea of how they are and what they're about...

Thanks heaps

xKaedonx 04-02-2005 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=SLATANIC-666]I'm afraid you're wrong on this one. Slayer have collaberated with rap and techno artists in the past. They collaberated with Ice-T on a song called Disorder which was for a film soundtrack and they also did a song for the film 'Spawn' called 'No Remorse - I Wanna Die' with a German techno band called Atari Teenage Riot :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Yes I know all of that, yet I find it very funny that Kerry King has accused other bands of "selling out" and "following trends" when in fact he's done it himself too.

shamed-angel 04-02-2005 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=beatyourheartout]Hi

I haven't listened to much Slayer at all and was wondering if there were any good songs to start me up and give me a fairly good idea of how they are and what they're about...

Thanks heaps[/QUOTE]
My first was Disciple. That got me into slayer. Saw 'em in Cariff last year, and they f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking pwned slipknot.


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