[QUOTE=Jaded]Guess what? He's inspired countless numbers of kids to play guitar, and his solos fit Nirvana perfectly. What makes a good guitar player? The ability to play arpeggios at 300 bpm? Anybody with decent dexterity can lock themselves in a room and practice for 10 hours a day and eventually play like Petrucci or Vai. I don't necessarily think he was an excellent guitarist, or even a good one, but he certainly wasn't BAD. He played grunge, for christs sake, and noisy, sloppy solos were just how Nirvana sounded.[/QUOTE]


Yes they fitted the music, but you can make techincal solos fit the music too. These guitarists don't lock themselves in a room for 10 hours a day you fool. They aim to improve technicality in their playing and not learn 4 chords and call themselves professionals. Also, stereotypically speaking, it would be people who listen to crap depressing music like Nirvana who would lock themselves in a room all day.

[QUOTE=CabbageStabbage]Slayer - Raining Blood

That solo is basically jerking off the whammy bar.

The song kicks *** though[/QUOTE]


incase no one else notices this

look at the lyrics booklet on your reign in blood cd, flip it to the page that has raining blood, look past all the words and at the end

what does it say

it doesnt say solo (hannenman/king)

it says NOISE (hannenman/king)

they say that because it isnt a solo.....its just noise and you're right, they basically are just jerking off the whammy bar

[QUOTE=Chimpy247]Yes they fitted the music, but you can make techincal solos fit the music too. These guitarists don't lock themselves in a room for 10 hours a day you fool. They aim to improve technicality in their playing and not learn 4 chords and call themselves professionals. Also, stereotypically speaking, it would be people who listen to crap depressing music like Nirvana who would lock themselves in a room all day.[/QUOTE]
You don't think Vai and Satch woodsheded for hours a day to be as technically advanced as they are now? You think it just came naturally? I never said that you couldn't have technical solos that fit, and I'm a big fan of Vai. Most people it seems don't like Cobain because he can't phisically play very well, and I was saying that any body can be a robot and play sweep picked pseudo-classical solos if they work hard enough.

[QUOTE=linkotim]the solo for smells like teen spirit sucks
its just the tune that he sings, arranged for guitar... that takes no skill watsoever[/QUOTE]

I'd like to see you come up with a melody .023x as good as that one, jackass. I don't understand why people say SLTS is so bad. So what if he just took the vocal melody? It's a ****ing good melody and it doesn't sound bad to the ears whatsoever.

any solo from metallica's Reload with the exception of fuel and the unforgiven 2.....these are so bad they just crap on trying to make the songs longer than they need to be.

[url]http://www.siamshade.org/washutempdir/videos/fredshred.wmv[/url]

that's the link for everyone still asking.

i think people are flaming guitar solos as being crap even though they are meant to be the way they are because they suit the music. simple doesn't mean ****, they're meant to be that way alot of the time. i think the really crap guitar solos are the ones that don't fit in and ruin a song (or are by some clueless wanker such as durst attempting to play guitar) :)

:lol: I always laugh out loud when i see that fredshred vid

[QUOTE=Jaded]You don't think Vai and Satch woodsheded for hours a day to be as technically advanced as they are now? You think it just came naturally? I never said that you couldn't have technical solos that fit, and I'm a big fan of Vai. Most people it seems don't like Cobain because he can't phisically play very well, and I was saying that any body can be a robot and play sweep picked pseudo-classical solos if they work hard enough.[/QUOTE]

I would say that is the point... if they WORK hard enough they can get good. Does that mean that anyone who DOESN'T work hard gets a pass cuz anyone who "works hard enough" can become great? Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You are confusing yourself. What "pass" do you speak of?
Not good, but technically advanced. People in here seem to love fast, technical stuff, but anyone can be fast if they work at it. The guitar players who really matter are the ones that write great melodys and songs.

this one time my freind droped his guitar and it made some wierd noise
that wasnt really a solo but it sucked :lol:

[QUOTE=Jaded]You are confusing yourself. What "pass" do you speak of?
Not good, but technically advanced. People in here seem to love fast, technical stuff, but anyone can be fast if they work at it. The guitar players who really matter are the ones that write great melodys and songs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, and writing melodies and songs doesn't take practice? I'd say it does. But its easy to write crappy three chord songs with five note solos. Anyone can write songs like SLTS. ANYONE.

Being able to shred is NOT easy; it takes tons of hard work and practice. Not "anyone" can just learn how to shred. It takes years of work and practice. ANYONE can pick up a guitar, think of a melody, and write words to it. It won't necassarily be GOOD, but anyone can do it.

However, I DO know what you mean. Some people do get so caught up in speed that they forget the song.

[QUOTE=fuzzy`]this one time my freind droped his guitar and it made some wierd noise
that wasnt really a solo but it sucked :lol:[/QUOTE]

What?

Poisons guitarist CC-Dewille or somethings HORRIBLE solo in every Rose in Poisons live album. Seriously it has no amount of music in it at all, it sounds like a teenager picking his first random notes.

[QUOTE=CreepingBlack]Kerry King is a terrible lead player.
edit: most slayer solo's are uncreative and sloppy.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, Kerry King should never solo.

hahaha that fred durst thing was so ****ehouse.....jesus i could make a lacky band on a ruler sound a **** load better than that.

lol
 

you think those are bad? This is a band i used to be in, and the guitarist is probably the world's worst. He only did about 3 solos because he considered solos to sound "too eighties". Obviously he doesnt know a whole lot about guitar then lol. The solos he did were funny enough to kill somebody, and ear piercing too ha.

Here's a funny one, thats also him singing, and me (sadly) on drums. enjoy!

[url]www.localretard.com/loser.mp3[/url] its just a little bit past the halfway mark in the song....listen to the whole thing for some more laughs haha.

The solo in "Heart Shaped Box". It just throws the whole song off. Doesn't fit in at all.

[QUOTE=harps2cool]you think those are bad? This is a band i used to be in, and the guitarist is probably the world's worst. He only did about 3 solos because he considered solos to sound "too eighties". Obviously he doesnt know a whole lot about guitar then lol. The solos he did were funny enough to kill somebody, and ear piercing too ha.

Here's a funny one, thats also him singing, and me (sadly) on drums. enjoy!

[url]www.localretard.com/loser.mp3[/url] its just a little bit past the halfway mark in the song....listen to the whole thing for some more laughs haha.[/QUOTE]

The song sucked. Maybe he just doesn't like solos.

could someone please tell me where fred durst did this solo? i would really like to dl it!

RaTm FaN, scroll up the fuc[font=]k[/font]ing page, it's right there.

I can't believe that Splashfreak and Jaded are both arguing over the definition of being good.

You're both fighting a losing battle boys.

^I wasn't arguing over the definition of being good. I don't think there is a "Definition" of being good. I was saying I thought his "definition" was dumb.

That's all.

*looks innocent*

I know he's my fav guitarist, but has anybody seen Jimmy Pages Hearbreaker solo when Zepp reunited (jason bonham on drums) for the atlantic award thing a few years back? it was a pretty embarrassing solo. im sure alcohol didnt help

I was just gonna say heartbreaker is pretty ****ing bad. And before I get flamed by zepp fans - I like zepp too, but c'mon that solo is pretty freakin crappy. It sounds like a 12 year old who just learned a couple of pentatonic licks and then played them after slamming down a pint of jim beam.

Oh yeah, also Ace Frehley did a solo for a KISS reunion Halloween gig a several years ago. It was really, really bad. It made heartbreaker look good. Even Gene Simmons made a remark about it afterwards saying something like Ace was like nobody else on the planet (you could tell it wasn't a compliment.)

justin hawkin's solo on the new live aid song or whatever it is. worst tone ever, and it sounds like he forgot to tune back to standard from the Eb he loves so much.

[QUOTE=AmericanWeiner]The only thing I can say to that is...WTF?[/QUOTE]
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that guy SUCKS!

[QUOTE=gocaps99]i would have to say "otherside" by the chili peppers and the last 5 minutes of "layla" by derek & the dominos[/QUOTE]

What the?!? Otherside's solo sucks? geez mate! Id love to see you do better! And the day you do I'll grow a ***** (because im a chick)

[QUOTE=bobcat911]I'd have to say Can't Stop by the Red Hot Chili Peppers ...I play bass and when I picked up a guitar I could play it not to knock the Peppers cause they ROCK! but its pretty simple[/QUOTE]

There si a big ****ing difference between simple and sucky, so tell me if u think the cant stop solo is sucky or simple, because it doesnt make too much sense to me this post you posted.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769](Instert random Slayer solo here.)

Also Fred Dursts solo is a laugh. I hope to god he doesn't pick up a guitar again.[/QUOTE]

I think you mean (Insert random KERRY KING SOLO here.) because as we (you as well should know) that jeff hennamen solos are bad ***

[QUOTE=xizoesira]Ehh... that one Fred Durst did.[/QUOTE]

Fred Durst is no musician, hes a businessman. Think about it. He could sing or play to save his life! He's a businessman hiding under a vanilla ice wananbe's skin.

My friend bought me a single (korn's did my time) and on it was a live version of metallica's One and I dont knowall the nema of korns members but I thought that the korn guitarist who solo'd in it was really pathetic. I showed my ex boyfriend (a music teacher of all things) and he agreed with me, I am not saying that just because hes a music teacher it makes his opinion right but i think they know what sucks and what doesnt