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poetic_tragedy 05-29-2004 04:33 PM

I saw The Used live yesterday and they were awesome! I just wanted to know if the screaming method posted at the beginning of this thread is the same one Bert uses. Also, can someone post what they sound like when they scream?

Thanks

WhenSorrowFails 05-29-2004 09:32 PM

poetic tragedy... first off The Used is freaking awesome... anyways ive tried my hardest to sound like bert when i scream but when i scream it sounds a lil high pitched but it still sounds good but its not raw & as strong as berts. more like... chester from LP or something close to it. i dunno if that was what you were but yeah. later

Teh1337Darklink 05-30-2004 11:32 PM

how do you do the scream like chester, WhenSorrowFails?

Yatty 05-31-2004 12:38 AM

Anyways...

Here is me singing Cradle of Filth - Dusk and her embrace...

[url]http://yatty.vahst.com/Recordings/cof2.mp3[/url]

I've sung a few songs, which some of you know. But without any practice or excercises before hand.

I would like to know how to sing more like the original. You can hear the original in the background..

ManWhoSoldTheWorld 06-01-2004 12:50 AM

Wow, I just got done reading all 16 pages, and it's help me a lot, just in one night, but using the techniques my scream is already a little better. I'm aiming for a Story of the Year and Nate/Randy from Finch scream, and I think its coming along ok. I don't have a good sounding voice for singing, but it does sound pretty good screaming, so I really don't care if i damage my singing voice...so..any tips?

(im 15 by the way)

EcolliJK 06-02-2004 02:09 PM

[QUOTE=Yatty]Anyways...

Here is me singing Cradle of Filth - Dusk and her embrace...

[url]http://yatty.vahst.com/Recordings/cof2.mp3[/url]

I've sung a few songs, which some of you know. But without any practice or excercises before hand.

I would like to know how to sing more like the original. You can hear the original in the background..[/QUOTE]


i'll try to help
so here it go's

take more air and take it at the right moment. try to get as much air in as possible.
if he screams high pitched and you can't reach the the note try to warm up first
by singing scales and then push as much air out as needed to get to your top pitch (you'd probably knew that allready but i'm just telling everything)
o and think forward while screaming (believe me it works)
try to put the high pitched scream in the front of your mouth.
and think about the note before singing/screaming it while breathing in

good luck

EcolliJK 06-02-2004 02:25 PM

tip for everybody:
ALLWAYS warm up if you're going to sing seriously (gig's , band practise)
big change to scr3w up your voice if you don't.
keep vocal chords/throat hydrated, but that's been said before

if your throat or vocal chords start to hurt...stop.
You can continue if you want but don't complain if you lose
your voice for 1 or 2 days.

LeaDHeaD 06-02-2004 03:44 PM

Also you kinda gotta push out with your diaphram when your screaming not only is it louder, it doesnt hurt your throught as much.

italic zero 06-02-2004 07:13 PM

You should be regulating air flow from your diaphram anyway :thumb:

LeaDHeaD 06-02-2004 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=italic zero]You should be regulating air flow from your diaphram anyway :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Yep :cool:

Yatty 06-02-2004 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=EcolliJK]i'll try to help
so here it go's

take more air and take it at the right moment. try to get as much air in as possible.
if he screams high pitched and you can't reach the the note try to warm up first
by singing scales and then push as much air out as needed to get to your top pitch (you'd probably knew that allready but i'm just telling everything)
o and think forward while screaming (believe me it works)
try to put the high pitched scream in the front of your mouth.
and think about the note before singing/screaming it while breathing in

good luck[/QUOTE]


Thanks for that...I've been warming up for a little while now..and I'm about to attempt to sing Cradle of Filth - Saffrons Curse...it has a lot of high pitched screaming, and goes from real low to real high in 2 words..or even in one word...:(

But I'll try nonetheless..

EcolliJK 06-03-2004 01:35 PM

thnx for adding the diaphram thing i forgot :upset:

yatty for the quick change of pitch i might have something that's work to practise it.
hold your arm, in the air and when you go from low to high let your arm fall.
let it go completly loose.
practise that way a couple of times, untill you're used to the pitch changing.

my vocal teacher allways told me that that is a good way to get used to it.

good luck

fleas_fingers 06-05-2004 08:11 AM

I've got a question....are girls physically able to scream? because i've never heard a girl scream before.

shadedlife 06-05-2004 09:57 AM

yes, girls are able to scream. listen to kittie.

EcolliJK 06-05-2004 10:23 AM

agrees ^ see arch enemy aswell

shadedlife 06-05-2004 11:44 AM

[quote] see arch enemy aswell[/quote]
i don't know why i forgot to mention them. sick vocalist in that band.

hollyhox 06-07-2004 08:43 AM

ok im a girl and im soon starting a band with no singer so i sed iwould do it but i wanna scream, is the tequnique the same i want to sound like walls of jericho and i kinda dont understand how u do the screaming notfrom ur gut if that makes anysense!!!! sorry if theres anything bout it in here but i only read the first bits

Trent Hatfield Manson 06-09-2004 03:44 AM

my main thing is i wanna have Trent Reznors vocal range
i use to be able to hit every note he could, then i ****ed my voice a bit, but, it seems to be comming back a little......but you know..i'd love to be able to sing the chorus to Hurt without ****ing up the "MY EMPIRE OF DIRT" part

mia913 06-10-2004 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=hollyhox]ok im a girl and im soon starting a band with no singer so i sed iwould do it but i wanna scream, is the tequnique the same i want to sound like walls of jericho and i kinda dont understand how u do the screaming notfrom ur gut if that makes anysense!!!! sorry if theres anything bout it in here but i only read the first bits[/QUOTE]

yeah im a girl too and i wanna kno if there's ne diff too in technique cuz girls voices r diff than guys, iffya ever figure that out let me kno!! :)

EcolliJK 06-12-2004 06:59 PM

there's no difference
we both have the same vocal chords
only girls pitch range is higher (usually)

hollyhox 06-13-2004 02:40 AM

thats super, now i gotta find somewhere to practice hahaha

Underoath 06-14-2004 01:21 AM

Norma Jean, how in the hell can I scream like this guy? I used to try all the time but still can not come close. I know he uses some distortion on his voice but if you guys have any ideas on how to scream like him...Please tell me! Thanks ^_^

tr0n 06-21-2004 12:04 AM

I have heard two different people talk about two vocalists excellent at screaming and nobody really seemed to acknowledge them. Tommy Rogers of Between The Buried and Me has such a dynamic array of screams that it's amazing to hear him--especially on their self-titled album. The other vocalist mentioned earlier is M. Shadows who is the vocalist of Avenged Sevenfold. His scream(s) are so powerful and "hardcore" sounding that nobody that I've heard could come even close to reproducing what he does with his voice. I just thought that they should both be acknowledged. Be sure and give em a listen to see what I'm talking about. Yes, I did register just to make this single post. I enjoyed reading this thread a lot. Thanks to everyone who contributed to it.

Poi 06-23-2004 01:41 AM

hey jay
 
Hey jay, I've been reading your replies and it seems to me you know your sh¡t. I am currently seeing a vocal coach but hes away in new york (broadway singer). I guess I have a good singing voice, I can say I have a voice similar range wise to Ace from The Early November up to Kenny from The Starting Line and some stuff by Davey Havok from AFI. I have a few questions for you that maybe you can help with.

1. I'm mixing my chest voice w/ falsetto, but going up towards notes that I cant reach with simply my chest voice I start to strain, neck tenses and I kind of tilt to the right. If I try to slide into falsetto from my chest it sounds almost opera like and quite pússy lol. What is a good excercise to add weight to my falsetto. I do vocal excercises every morning and evening in my car and and practicing on flexing that muscle (forgot the name) but it seems to be right under my tongue, on the underside of my face. Just wondering what else I could do.

2. I have absolutely no scream at all. I've tried but my throat started to kill so I stopped. I can scream where theres absolutely no pain and its fun, but I sound like a chick or Justin Hawkin's range from The Darkness. Trying the falsetto scream its way to high pitched, and I can't seem to bring it down.

3. For the longest time i've been doing what I call "sirens" where i basically make a sound very high up and gradually bring it down from falsetto to chest without making breaks. I've basically passed one break but the lower break, i think it might be a low G, continues to break. I try vocal frying and done what my vocal coach says but I can't get it. He says it comes with time and its one thing thats taking longer for me to get. Any help?

4. I do some chord stretching excercises but I was wondering if you have any more that I could possibly do.

Thank's a lot Jay or whoever else would like to reply to this. By the way Jay, the name of your band would be ______. I'd really like to check it out. Thanks. :thumb:

Harmonisation 06-23-2004 12:48 PM

poi > I aint heard from Jay in adges. So dont expect a reply back too quick. But opefuli he will be back soon!!

Understanding 06-28-2004 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=Underoath]Norma Jean, how in the hell can I scream like this guy? I used to try all the time but still can not come close. I know he uses some distortion on his voice but if you guys have any ideas on how to scream like him...Please tell me! Thanks ^_^[/QUOTE]


if i didn't know any better, there seems to be a clipping in his mic. Josh must've screamed really loud into that thing.


I came home from a band practice a while ago, and we tried to make a song from scratch. While the results are good, I screamed throughout the whole song, like, extensivly. And when i left, my throat was a little sore (my voice was fine, but my falsetto seemed hoarse). I want to replicate my scream so i don't muck up my voice box. But i also want to know if i can strenghten my voice to handle it a little more.

Understanding 06-28-2004 07:17 PM

also, i heard from a friend a guy from a hardcore band lost his voice (i'm not sure what band, or if it was permanent.

shadedlife 06-28-2004 10:16 PM

i tried some growling today. recorded a song for fun, then recorded the vocals a couple days later. put a little bit of distortion on it, and a slight bit of reverb. [url]www.soundclick.com/shagra[/url] (decapitated by a ceiling fan)
am i doing it right/wrong? my voice didn't hurt afterwards, but after a couple takes, my throat felt slightly itchy while growling.

Metallicadrummer 06-29-2004 08:36 AM

Okay, i know this guy isn't well known for screaming, but i want to get somewhere near james hetfields scream...he screams most on kill 'em all, and theres one song in particular i just want to be able to scream like...Phantom Lord...

the bit at the end where he screams "Fall to your knee's!! Bow down to the Phantom Lord!!!"

i don't even klnow if this is what you would technically call a scream, but this was the most suited thread i could find...thanks :D

osirisblind 07-04-2004 12:18 AM

The Refused anyone? Pointers on how to scream in a similar way? Thanks..


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