I wouldn't know, I don't follow up on current events and things. I don't watch TV or anything.

Is there any reason people are doing this? I'm too lazy to read back and stuff.

Bills over immigration...particularly one where they suggest making it a felony to be an illegal immigrant here where they would then remove the millions of illegals making money for their families and deport them back to Mexico and then build a 700 mile wall as the new US - Mexican border.

I thought illegal immigration was already, ya know, illegal. What does that have to do with kids walking out of schools though? Seems like they are just trying to be dramatic like they got some kind of purpose. Kids do that.

Oh well, whatever floats their boat, I guess.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I wouldn't know, I don't follow up on current events and things. I don't watch TV or anything.

Is there any reason people are doing this? I'm too lazy to read back and stuff.[/QUOTE]

:amaze:

Current events are usually good to keep up with, especially if you're older than like 12 years old.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]You guys need to find something actually worth fighting for. It's just school, nothing bad enough worth protesting about.

And I need to learn to spell "actually" 'cause it doesn't look right to me.[/QUOTE]
Immigrant Rights and its a rightful cause.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I thought illegal immigration was already, ya know, illegal. What does that have to do with kid walking out of schools though? Seems like kid's are just trying to be dramatic like they got some kind of purpose. Kids do that.

Oh well, whatever floats their boat, I guess.[/QUOTE]
Well I goto a high school with a high hispanic population...so I don't think its hard to see why they were walking out.

And I love how people can't even get away with doing peaceful protest without others on their backs the second they do so. F'uck that, those kids walked 10 miles to protest with other people like that, that's more than I've done.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]Current events are usually good to keep up with, especially if you're older than like 12 years old.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I never turn on TV or have a newspaper around, and I'm just uninterested in them altogether, so I do other things online.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I thought illegal immigration was already, ya know, illegal. What does that have to do with kids walking out of schools though? Seems like they are just trying to be dramatic like they got some kind of purpose. Kids do that.

Oh well, whatever floats their boat, I guess.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If everyone shared your attitude we would never really make any change would we?

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I thought illegal immigration was already, ya know, illegal. What does that have to do with kids walking out of schools though? Seems like they are just trying to be dramatic like they got some kind of purpose. Kids do that.

Oh well, whatever floats their boat, I guess.[/QUOTE]
It shows the youth cares and it makes the schools/government lose money.

My highschool is like 50% Asian, and 80% of our international students are asian.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]Yeah, but I never turn on TV or have a newspaper around, and I'm just uninterested in them altogether, so I do other things online.[/QUOTE]


Apathy, hmmm, why didn't anyone else think of that.

[QUOTE=faith and fiction]Well I goto a high school with a high hispanic population...so I don't think its hard to see why they were walking out.

And I love how people can't even get away with doing peaceful protest without others on their backs the second they do so. F'uck that, those kids walked 10 miles to protest with other people like that, that's more than I've done.[/QUOTE]
I'm not on anyone's back. People can do whatever they want and fight for whatever they want. Personally, I wouldn't do it even if I was hispanic or whatever. It seems pointless, but I didn't know they were actually walking somewhere to take part in something. I guess that makes more sense.

But that bill only applies to illegal immigrants right?

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]If everyone shared your attitude we would never really make any change would we?[/QUOTE]
Probably not, lol. I'd be more opinionated on the subject if it somehow affected me, I'm sure.

[QUOTE=faith and fiction]Well I goto a high school with a high hispanic population...so I don't think its hard to see why they were walking out.

And I love how people can't even get away with doing peaceful protest without others on their backs the second they do so. F'uck that, those kids walked 10 miles to protest with other people like that, that's more than I've done.[/QUOTE]
Some media outlets were really picking on the protesters. They were making the kids look bad and trying to make them made. I saw on the tv a clip of a kid walking away and all of a sudden a cop pushes him really hard. It was like a bus hit him.

You're kind of dumb, Wizard, no?

Hahaha

[QUOTE=SunnyDayRealEstateAM]Some media outlets were really picking on the protesters. They were making the kids look bad and trying to make them made. I saw on the tv a clip of a kid walking away and all of a sudden a cop pushes him really hard. It was like a bus hit him.[/QUOTE]
So cops can just come on and violently shove someone and it's legal? That's lame.

As you can tell, I don't really get out much when it comes to politics and laws and things, hah.

The conservative radio outlet my parents listen to were really trying to make the protesters look awful.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]You're kind of dumb, Wizard, no?[/QUOTE]
Nah, not dumb, just ignorant about this kind of stuff, which is why I'm asking questions.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I'm not on anyone's back. People can do whatever they want and fight for whatever they want. Personally, I wouldn't do it even if I was hispanic or whatever. It seems pointless, but I didn't know they were actually walking somewhere to take part in something. I guess that makes more sense.

But that bill only applies to illegal immigrants right?[/QUOTE]Yeah, but you need to take into consideration that these people are feeding their families from the work they get here. Yeah, they're here illegally...but Mexicans and other people from ethnic backgrounds have been coming over here illegally for years and we've lived our lives just fine while they are working the jobs you snicker at with your friends to scrape together chum change in the long scheme of things.

And to make it a felony to be an illegal...come on...are you really going to put someone in jail for trying to give their family a better life?

They help our economy a lot. Its a shame that people want to criminalize them. They come from corrupt countries full of poverty. America is a dream for them. They want to do better and live better.

Seems sort of pointless to protest against the government starting to punish people for doing something already oradained illegal. Not taking sides, 'cause I see nothing wrong with immigrants, and the bill itself is pretty harsh, but protesting against the US for taking action on their own laws doesn't seem like the smartest decision someone could make.

I'm already confident these 2 days of protesting are going to make the Senate think twice about passing this bill...and on top of that they're probably going to pass the Guest Work Act or whatever that thing is called where you can work here without citizenship.

I'm not sure you really understand the purpose of protest.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]I'm not sure you really understand the purpose of protest.[/QUOTE]
I don't. :/

Seems like a bunch of people getting angry because they're getting punished for doing something that is illegal, even though they got away with it previously. Like I said, I don't know how things work or nothin', so this is just going off what you guys told me. If I'm wrong, explain it to me, and dumb it down 'cause I don't know anything about how laws and politics go.

But if the protest is working after all, more power to them.

First off, understand that just because something is a law doesn't mean it's right. You seem to be stuck on the idea that people shouldn't be complaining about something they get in trouble before only because it's against the law.

For real. Look ar Birmingham, Alabama with the bus boycott. I'm sure there were a ton of white kids saying "Hey what's the point you know? It's the law and that's that".

And this is no different. Who are we to push people away while they try to make an honest living? And I know this is touchy when you bring it up...but we did take that land from them 200 somewhat years ago, and I'm sorry but time doesn't change everything.

Oh, I don't agree that the law is right or anything. It seems awfully strict and unneeded to me. But, I've never heard of people protesting and things before the passed the bill. People were happy breaking the law, because they weren't getting caught and punished. Now that the law's being enforced, they finally say something.

They should've been doing this long before this bill was passed. Or am I misunderstanding* you?


*I'm not even sure if this is a word.

Oh the bill just made it to Senate, that's why everything is protesting.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]Oh, I don't agree that the law is right or anything. It seems awfully strict and unneeded to me. But, I've never heard of people protesting and things before the passed the bill. People were happy breaking the law, because they weren't getting caught and punished. Now that the law's being enforced, they finally say something.

They should've been doing this long before this bill was passed. Or am I misunderstanding* you?


*I'm not even sure if this is a word.[/QUOTE]
It's a word.

I participate in a fair few protests around my city, with the ALV.

[QUOTE=faith and fiction]For real. Look ar Birmingham, Alabama with the bus boycott. I'm sure there were a ton of white kids saying "Hey what's the point you know? It's the law and that's that".

And this is no different.[/QUOTE]
But that law was always enforced and people weren't allowed to slip by repeatedly, they were oppressed for a legth of time. This immgrant thing seems different 'cause the laws weren't strictly enforced until now. I mean, if you break the law, you should be expecting some kind of punishment, and not complain when you do get punished.

The protestors are doing the right thing, but I think it's being triggered by the wrong event. They should've been protesting in masses and fighting for their rights long before this bill. If they were, I've just never heard anything about it.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]But, I've never heard of people protesting and things before the passed the bill.[/QUOTE]

Do you live under a rock/have never taken a history class?


[QUOTE=Wizard.]Or am I misunderstanding* you?


*I'm not even sure if this is a word.[/QUOTE]

That's just silly, of course it's a word.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]But that law was always enforced and people weren't allowed to slip by repeatedly, they were oppressed for a legth of time. This immgrant thing seems different 'cause the laws weren't strictly enforced until now. I mean, if you break the law, you should be expecting some kind of punishment, and not complain when you do get punished.

The protestors are doing the right thing, but I think it's being triggered by the wrong event. They should've been protesting in masses and fighting for their rights long before this bill. If they were, I've just never heard anything about it.[/QUOTE]

There has been illegal immigration forever, this is faar from the first law regulating immigration.

This is also far from the first time people have protested immigration restrictions.

I still find it hard to believe how you seem to have no understanding of any of this.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]There has been illegal immigration forever, this is faar from the first law regulating immigration.

This is also far from the first time people have protested immigration restrictions.

I still find it hard to believe how you seem to have no understanding of any of this.[/QUOTE]
I've never had a formal history class or anything like that. I've been cut off from most things other than the internet for 3 or 4 years because of homeschooling.

I get why they're pissed, and I think the law is f[SIZE="2"]u[/SIZE]cked up, but because of the time they chose to start this protest, it makes people look like they're whining about getting a smack on the wrist for doing something they know they weren't supposed to. I'm not saying that's what they are doing, but it just looks like it.

I've never heard of any previous protests or walk-outs and stuff over this, not in current affairs anyway. I know a little from the small bit of history I've had to study, just old basic stuff though.

Anyways, I'll leave that type of stuff to you guys... I don't get or care for it, lol.

What are some good posi hardcore bands? I prefer poppier stuff, but all of it's good.

I like these:
CIV, Gorilla Biscuits, Lifetime*, Kid Dynamite, Youth of Today, Good Clean Fun.

I need more


(*not sure if they are actually a "posi" band, but they're poppy.)

Crime In Stereo, Burn What Binds, Shelter

Damien Rhodes, you seem to know even less about this than me, and I'm only 15.

Wow, really? I always thought you were older, Kieran.

Please tell me that's your name.

It is indeed my name.

Great. Just making sure.

So how's it going?