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robo2448 09-21-2005 06:42 AM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Neat.


So I heard Keith Moon saw the Beatles at dinner one time and walked up and asked them if he "Could join?" to which they replied "Ya, sure sit down". And then he said "No, can I join your band?", Ringo was sitting their the whole time also.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Keith is so cool. Both Ringo and Keith are pretty funny, but Keith is a much, much better drummer. I'm glad they didn't let him join though. He wouldn't have suited The Beatles style at all. Ringo was perfect for them.

i am the robots 09-21-2005 07:00 AM

Keith Moon in The Beatles... mmm that sounds good, if only that happened, he could actually play the instrument...

EDIT: this is my 5555 post... wooo.

Leper 09-21-2005 03:21 PM

Keith Moon wouldn't have suited the Beatles at all.

NP: The Beatles- Penny Lane

rockinbass17 09-21-2005 03:36 PM

Not at all. Plus, if Keith joined The Beatles then his Who career would probably be cut short, thus eliminating alot of very good music from history.

DeusExMachina 09-21-2005 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]Why don't you tell me why they sound amazing ALL the time to you?

I just think it is average music what more do you want me to say. It is average to my ears.[/QUOTE]
Go away. I'm not going into your thread and telling you I don't like your music taste. I don't have to tell you s[size=3]hi[/size]t. If you go into an official thread (which this might as well be) and bash the band, or say you don't like them, at least give a reason why. If you don't contribute in some way, you're spamming.

Keith Moon is more technically talented than Ringo, but I think in many ways Ringo was more creative. And, Keith Moon wouldn't be able to fill in Ringo's spot. His style just doesn't fit.

Flaminghotchino 09-21-2005 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Go away. I'm not going into your thread and telling you I don't like your music taste. I don't have to tell you s[size=3]hi[/size]t. If you go into an official thread (which this might as well be) and bash the band, or say you don't like them, at least give a reason why. If you don't contribute in some way, you're spamming.

Keith Moon is more technically talented than Ringo, but I think in many ways Ringo was more creative. And, Keith Moon wouldn't be able to fill in Ringo's spot. His style just doesn't fit.[/QUOTE]

I gotta disagree with you there, I find keith moon is one of the most creative drummers of all time, and has a style that is completely pointless to try and mimic, He's like the Jimi Hendrix of drums.

I've heard plenty of people do a fine job of imititating Ringos drumming, I think he suited the beatles very well and did a fine job at that, but as far as drumming goes...He wasn't all that great..

Jacaranda 09-21-2005 04:52 PM

"He's (Ringo) not even the best drummer in the band."

Oh I love John.

Illmatic 09-21-2005 04:52 PM

Ringo Starr was a fairly underrated drummer (in general as well as within the context of the Beatles) but he's not as irreplacable as you people seem to think he was.

DeusExMachina 09-21-2005 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]"He's (Ringo) is not even the best drummer in the band."

Oh I love John.[/QUOTE]
:lol: That's an ouch.

robo2448 09-21-2005 06:01 PM

Similar John line: When George quit the Beatles for a week during Let it Be after getting in an arguement with Paul, The Beatles all went back to John's place to make a plan to persuade George to come back.

As soon as they sat down, John said, "Well, let's call Eric up."

Woodstock 09-21-2005 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Similar John line: When George quit the Beatles for a week during Let it Be after getting in an arguement with Paul, The Beatles all went back to John's place to make a plan to persuade George to come back.

As soon as they sat down, John said, "Well, let's call Eric up."[/QUOTE]
:lol: ah john

The Clash 09-22-2005 06:33 AM

Im seeing Paul McCartney tonite in Philly!

Walrus Gumboot 09-22-2005 07:33 AM

[QUOTE=The Clash]Im seeing Paul McCartney tonite in Philly![/QUOTE]

I guess you're the first to see him in this thread, I'm gonna see him next Tuesday

cowboy_from_hell 09-22-2005 12:56 PM

The Most Over Rated Band Of All Time!!!

Cal_on_drums 09-22-2005 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=cowboy_from_hell]The Most Over Rated Band Of All Time!!![/QUOTE]

Wow! Another wonderful contribution from [B]cowboy_from_hell[/B]
[QUOTE=WelcomeToTheMachine]Ehh...im just basing that on favrites,if it came down to it

Keith > Ringo[/QUOTE]

KM couldn't keep time. But Ringo could so well! And he played what was needed and was an an essential member of The Beatles.

Jacaranda 09-22-2005 02:40 PM

[QUOTE=cowboy_from_hell]The Most Over Rated Band Of All Time!!![/QUOTE]
oMgZ DiMeBaG iZ dEaD l0l 0mG!!!!!!!!!!!123four

Ringo fit in perfect with the Beatles, three guys who wanted to be the star... too much.

DeusExMachina 09-22-2005 02:46 PM

Yeah, it's a shame that John and Paul had such an ego clash.

Seafroggys 09-22-2005 03:07 PM

You know, for every time someone comes into here and says the Beatles are the most overrated band of all time, I'll come into every AC/DC, Slipknot, and Tool thread and tell them how its a bunch of ****ing noise that someone could fart out (actually I like Tool a tad, AC/DC is boring, and Slipknot fits that description perfectally! :lol: )

Moon fit the Who much better than with the Beatles. John Paul and George just couldn't match the energy that Townshend and Daltry could deliver (I'll leave out Entwistle on that one ;) ) plus everything great the Who did would be gone, so we're stuck with only one kickass band that might be better, might not be, and my bets are on the might not be as good.

I like Moon more than Ringo, but Ringo is still one of my favorites. And a much better timekeeper.

rockinbass17 09-22-2005 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=cowboy_from_hell]The Most Over Rated Band Of All Time!!![/QUOTE]

Thank You For Your Lovely Well Thought Out Opinion. It's So Cool When Someone Comes Into A Thread Only To Bash The Band.

And Typing Like This Is Really Cool.

/sarcasm
/typing that was hard

El_Goodo 09-22-2005 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=cowboy_from_hell]The Most Over Rated Band Of All Time!!![/QUOTE]

I say this all the time...how can you overrate the most succesful band of all time? It's a serious question is it possible to over-rate a band that no one has been able to match in success and influence?

Lunch 09-22-2005 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Keith Moon is more technically talented than Ringo, but I think in many ways Ringo was more creative. And, Keith Moon wouldn't be able to fill in Ringo's spot. His style just doesn't fit.[/QUOTE]

Moon was miles ahead of Ringo in creativity. Keith stands alone as a drummer and a person in rock history, he's one of the most creative and original drummers ever.
[QUOTE=Cal_on_drums]KM couldn't keep time. But Ringo could so well! And he played what was needed and was an an essential member of The Beatles.[/QUOTE]

Moon couldn't keep time? Just because Ringo's most admirable trait in terms of drumming (being a great time-keeper) does not mean that Keith couldn't keep it. In some ways, Moon is one of the most advanced time-keepers in history because he kept rhythm with a style that no one else has been able to use. He kept the beat, but also did so much more than that.

That said I think both drummers are essential pieces to their respective bands it would not replace one with the other. But lets get our heads on straight here, Moon dominates Ringo.

Woodstock 09-22-2005 06:11 PM

I agree with Lunch, Moon was an excellent time keeper. He managed to define a style of drumming never heard before in rock songs that could easily have regular rock beats.

BludgeonySteve 09-22-2005 09:42 PM

He certainly kicked Ringo's *** drum wise. And a lot of other people's asses too.

Leper 09-23-2005 12:01 AM

I wonder if the Beatles would have been as big if they had decided to keep Pete Best as their drummer. Probably not, I would think. The way they talk about that part in the anthology, it sounds like they wouldn't have even gotten into the studio if they hadn't replaced Best.

Seafroggys 09-23-2005 12:01 PM

George Martin told them to get a new drummer.

Anyways, yeah, like I said earlier, Keith Moon is my favorite drummer, but its not the drummer way to kick other drummers *** in playing. We all play, and thats waht matters.

/ends little kid sugarcoating

Cal_on_drums 09-23-2005 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Moon was miles ahead of Ringo in creativity. Keith stands alone as a drummer and a person in rock history, he's one of the most creative and original drummers ever.


Moon couldn't keep time? Just because Ringo's most admirable trait in terms of drumming (being a great time-keeper) does not mean that Keith couldn't keep it. In some ways, Moon is one of the most advanced time-keepers in history because he kept rhythm with a style that no one else has been able to use. He kept the beat, but also did so much more than that.

That said I think both drummers are essential pieces to their respective bands it would not replace one with the other. But lets get our heads on straight here, Moon dominates Ringo.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying he can't keep time just because Ringo can...but Keith Moon was known to be a poor time keeper. He would speed up a lot of the time. I swear I read that somewhere...

Seafroggys 09-23-2005 06:27 PM

Yeah, if you listen to We're Not Gonna Take it off of Woodstock, they speed up horribly I believe the second time they go through the "Listening to you..." stanza. I thought it was intentional that they speed up through the song, until I heard the studio version.

IMO it does sound better slowly speeding up, but it was just one rapid change and pretty much kept that tempo, maybe going a little faster. Enough to say that it wasn't intentional.

magicbus 09-23-2005 06:31 PM

Does anybody have any live footage of The Beatles playing? On their computer I mean.

clown_phobia 09-23-2005 06:59 PM

I have the first ed sullivan performance, got it off limewire

whatduffhuck7 09-23-2005 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]Does anybody have any live footage of The Beatles playing? On their computer I mean.[/QUOTE]
ive read numerous times that they didnt try becuase the crownd was to loud anyway, so they couldnt hear there music. beatles (me not old enough to know for a fact but have herd) is more of a studio band.

clown_phobia 09-23-2005 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=whatduffhuck7]ive read numerous times that they didnt try becuase the crownd was to loud anyway, so they couldnt hear there music. beatles (me not old enough to know for a fact but have herd) is more of a studio band.[/QUOTE]

They stopped playing live around '66-66. Their last ever show (excluding the rooftop performance in January '69, was in 66.

Seafroggys 09-23-2005 07:38 PM

Candlestick Park, San Fransisco was their last gig, excluding the Apple Rooftop performance, and the Our World broadcast (or whatever it was called)

WelcomeToTheMachine 09-23-2005 07:41 PM

Do any of you guys know or have seen those cool Beatles Trading Car(dunno the term,there playing card sized cards of the Beatles) the Black and White ones,not the colour ones. Does anyone know how much these are worth,because a friend of mine found ike 30 o them in his attic and i really want to buy them of him, because he doesnt ike theBeatles,but he doesnt want to just give them away

clown_phobia 09-23-2005 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Candlestick Park, San Fransisco was their last gig, excluding the Apple Rooftop performance, and the Our World broadcast (or whatever it was called)[/QUOTE]

Yeah the one world thing was pretty cool. The first ever worldwide tv broadcast. The beatles played "all you need is love" with members of the rollings stones and other bands. Paul wrote "your mother should know" for the one world thing but All you need is love was better

[QUOTE=WelcomeToTheMachine]Do any of you guys know or have seen those cool Beatles Trading Car(dunno the term,there playing card sized cards of the Beatles) the Black and White ones,not the colour ones. Does anyone know how much these are worth,because a friend of mine found ike 30 o them in his attic and i really want to buy them of him, because he doesnt ike theBeatles,but he doesnt want to just give them away[/QUOTE]

They're probably worth quite a lot...

Walrus Gumboot 09-23-2005 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=WelcomeToTheMachine]Do any of you guys know or have seen those cool Beatles Trading Car(dunno the term,there playing card sized cards of the Beatles) the Black and White ones,not the colour ones. Does anyone know how much these are worth,because a friend of mine found ike 30 o them in his attic and i really want to buy them of him, because he doesnt ike theBeatles,but he doesnt want to just give them away[/QUOTE]

My sister/dad got some Yellow Submarine one in England, they have 52 different illustrations, and they are all gilded on the sides and come in a little tin

I wouldn't be surprised if the tin has been anonomously stolen by some random pot-smoking member of my family by now

Krabsworth 09-23-2005 09:15 PM

On the Anthology albums, there is a take of Strawberry Fields Forever, when Ringo really plays awesome, I'm not a drummer, so I woudn't know what it is he's doing, but it like a thunderstorm, at 120 bpm.

Lunch 09-23-2005 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Yeah, if you listen to We're Not Gonna Take it off of Woodstock, they speed up horribly I believe the second time they go through the "Listening to you..." stanza. I thought it was intentional that they speed up through the song, until I heard the studio version.

IMO it does sound better slowly speeding up, but it was just one rapid change and pretty much kept that tempo, maybe going a little faster. Enough to say that it wasn't intentional.[/QUOTE]

People do make mistakes when they play live, but Ringo probably doesn't know so much about that( :p ). It's hard to fault a guy who plays for 2-3 hours a night for making a mistake when there is little record of Ringo's live playing.
[QUOTE=The Krabsman] but it like a thunderstorm, at 120 bpm.[/QUOTE]

You know what else is like that? Every Who song.

He shoots he scores.

El_Goodo 09-23-2005 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]People do make mistakes when they play live, but Ringo probably doesn't know so much about that( :p ). It's hard to fault a guy who plays for 2-3 hours a night for making a mistake when there is little record of Ringo's live playing.


[/QUOTE]

But clearly Ringo has been playing live since the 70's until now. And the early 60's before the beatles stopped touring.

Lunch 09-23-2005 11:06 PM

This is the sound of that lame joke going over your head.

MBS 09-23-2005 11:31 PM

[QUOTE]

Thank You For Your Lovely Well Thought Out Opinion. It's So Cool When Someone Comes Into A Thread Only To Bash The Band.

And Typing Like This Is Really Cool.

/sarcasm
/typing that was hard[/QUOTE]

He was owned by the caps filter.

Moon kept time, but had a lot of fills.

/nothing else better to contribute.


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