Did you guys hear DT did play one show with Charlie again? They played WDADU in it's entirety, last year I think, with him. I think the show was in New York, I'll check up on that.. but Charlie must have been [I]really[/I] old.

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]They re-do the album with Charlie, and play Metropolis and a few other songs from that era.[/QUOTE]

James sings most of it, they just get Charlie to do one or two.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]James sings most of it, they just get Charlie to do one or two.[/QUOTE]
That seems pointless... I'm sure you're wrong, but I can't be arsed to argue!

[QUOTE=nowitzki]I was so close to ordering the When Dream and Day ReUnite official bootleg DVD today, but the Ytse Jam Records site doesn't accept Maestro cards :upset:

They get Charlie back to sing a couple of songs on that.[/QUOTE]


I have that. They have both Labrie and Charlie doing a duet for Metropolis. They got Derek Shirinian back to also do a duet with Rudess.
He may be on some other songs, but I got it the other day and only watched Metropolis so far.

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]That seems pointless... I'm sure you're wrong, but I can't be arsed to argue![/QUOTE]

Personally I think it was definitely the best thing to do... the worst thing about WDADU for me is Charlie's vocals, so having James sing the whole album is an awesome idea.

and I'll check up to see who's right...

[QUOTE=nowitzki]James sings most of it, they just get Charlie to do one or two.[/QUOTE]
Charlie does the Encore= 2 songs. You win.
[QUOTE=nowitzki]Personally I think it was definitely the best thing to do... the worst thing about WDADU for me is Charlie's vocals, so having James sing the whole album is an awesome idea.[/QUOTE]
I prefer James, apart from on Status Seeker, I think Charlie's vocals on that are perfect.

They asked Kevin Moore to duet with James on Space-Dye-Vest, but he declined.

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]Charlie does the Encore= 2 songs. You win.
[/QUOTE]

You should have pretended you were talking about a different DVD, then you would have both one:naughty: .

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]You should have pretended you were talking about a different DVD, then you would have both one:naughty: .[/QUOTE]

But no such DVD exists, fool.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]But no such DVD exists, fool.[/QUOTE]

Errmmmm.....it could have been a bootleg he made himself...yes, that's right.

"I could replace my whole rig with this" - or could he? Does anyone know what that guitar is on the Budokan DVD?

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]Errmmmm.....it could have been a bootleg he made himself...yes, that's right.

"I could replace my whole rig with this" - or could he? Does anyone know what that guitar is on the Budokan DVD?[/QUOTE]

I think it's one of these [URL="http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D24770%2526CTID%253D500946%2526VNM%253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html"]http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D24770%2526CTID%253D500946%2526VNM%253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=nowitzki]I think it's one of these [URL="http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D24770%2526CTID%253D500946%2526VNM%253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html"]http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D24770%2526CTID%253D500946%2526VNM%253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

It is that sort of guitar, but not that exact one. The one he uses is a light brown one, in the shape of an Ibenez or something.

That must be the EZ-EG then, there's a link to it on that page.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]That must be the EZ-EG then, there's a link to it on that page.[/QUOTE]

It is that one.

Just wondering, what are Dream Theater's best and heaviest instrumentals?

Any replies are appreciated :)

i dunno about heaviest, but i like erotomania the best.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but:

Octavarium is the eighth studio album by Dream Theater, it has eight songs and the songs are in the key of Fmin, Gmin, Amin, Bmin, Cmin, Dmin, Emin and Fmin, respectively through the number of the songs.

That's a rather cool thing, if you ask me. Nothing impressive by today's standards (not to mention this is a [U]musicians[/U] forums) but it was worth the mention.

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Just wondering, what are Dream Theater's best and heaviest instrumentals?

Any replies are appreciated :)[/QUOTE]

Try these:
Stream of Consciousness
Ytse Jam
The Dance of Eternity


[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but:

Octavarium is the eighth studio album by Dream Theater, it has eight songs and the songs are in the key of Fmin, Gmin, Amin, Bmin, Cmin, Dmin, Emin and Fmin, respectively through the number of the songs.

That's a rather cool thing, if you ask me. Nothing impressive by today's standards (not to mention this is a [U]musicians[/U] forums) but it was worth the mention.[/QUOTE]

[URL="http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php"]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/URL]

If these DVD extras are funnier than Cradle of filth's schlockumentary on Heavy left handed and candid...It will be funny indeed.

Just seeing Cradle of Filth is pretty funny in general.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Just seeing Cradle of Filth is pretty funny in general.[/QUOTE]

I would love to stamp on Danni Filth.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Just seeing Cradle of Filth is pretty funny in general.[/QUOTE]
I saw them at Download '04. they were rather funny.

[QUOTE=Happy]I saw them at Download '04. they were rather funny.[/QUOTE]

Funny?:confused:

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]Funny?:confused:[/QUOTE]
They had people walking around on stilts on stage and the guitarist windmilling looked funny.
Also there was some back-up singer who stood on stage all through the set and only sung for one song.

[QUOTE=Happy]They had people walking around on stilts on stage and the guitarist windmilling looked funny.
Also there was some back-up singer who stood on stage all through the set and only sung for one song.[/QUOTE]

Haha, I've got to see that. Got any videos by any chance?

No, You probably wouldn't find it funny anyway. :(

[QUOTE=Happy]No, You probably wouldn't find it funny anyway. :([/QUOTE]

I don't like COF, I just wanted to see if they're good live.

Well they're not bad live, they did put on a show with the people on stilts ect. and sounded pretty good.

They were excellent live when I saw them, and I'm going to see them again next month...then again...I'm a fanboy:p

The extra in question is basically them incredibly drunk with a video camera on tour, it's brilliant

[QUOTE=nowitzki]You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.
[/QUOTE]

no, not all of it.

where's the best place to start listening? (apart from rush :lol: )

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Try these:
Stream of Consciousness
Ytse Jam
The Dance of Eternity




[URL="http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php"]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks. I actually wanted a more thorough thing. Thanks man. :)

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Thanks. I actually wanted a more thorough thing. Thanks man. :)[/QUOTE]
My Fuc[SIZE="2"]k[/SIZE]ing God that's deep!

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]My Fuc[SIZE="2"]k[/SIZE]ing God that's deep![/QUOTE]

I don't get it:confused: .

EDIT: ahhh yes, you were talking about the 8V link.

Hahaha, it's quite an interesting article, especially all the references in the title track.

Oh yeah, there's one of the references to their influences during Full Circle that the article didn't pick up on - "Sailing on the Seven Seize" is ALSO a reference to Sailing the Seas Of Cheese by Primus. Not really that important, but I noticed they showed the album cover during that part of the song when they played it live. Not that important, but I thought it was worth a mention :D

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]I don't get it:confused: .[/QUOTE]
The Octavarium explanation...

...the wonders of editing...

[QUOTE]'MP says "Root"
"Take all of me" (from 3:03 in The Root Of All Evil) plays in the background

MP says "Second"
"Don't let the day go by" (from 4:21 in The Answers lies Within) plays in the background

MP says "Third"
A clip from These Walls plays in the background


MP says "Fourth"
"I walk beside you" (from 1:06 in I Walk Beside You) plays in the background

MP says "Fifth"
"Hysteria" (from 3:55 in Panic Attack) plays in the background


MP says "Sixth"
"What would you say" (from 3:03 in Never Enough) plays in the background


MP says "Seventh"
A clip from Sacrificed Sons plays in the background

MP says "Octave"
"Side effects appear" (from 11:52 in Octavarium part II) plays in the background'[/QUOTE]



Does any one else not get all that?

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]Does any one else not get all that?[/QUOTE]

During those parts of the songs, those clips from other songs play in the background. Portnoy says those intervals as the clips play.

Can you explain an example. I just don't understand where abouts in the song and what I'm listening for????

At 18.54 where it sounds like he's belching, that's him saying "third". They're all in that section of the song, you just have to listen out carelfully.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]At 18.54 where it sounds like he's belching, that's him saying "third". They're all in that section of the song, you just have to listen out carelfully.[/QUOTE]

I can hear the Never Enough bit, I'm destined to find them all now.