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full collapse 03-09-2006 02:59 PM

The projection crashes are not that thick at all. Medium-thins.

Snarz 03-09-2006 03:07 PM

Anyone ever heard of Saluda cymbals if so tell me what you think about them...

Thanks Snarz

Plan B. 03-09-2006 03:36 PM

My 18" Projection takes an arm of steel go get a full sound, I don't really like it much, has a really high profile/bell.

saars 03-09-2006 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=styler]the projection crashes are really thick. the stage crash is a thinner cymbal. might not meld. the dark crash im not sure about.[/QUOTE]


ok, last question (AGAIN). So, you know that cymbals fit together when their thickness is similar?

Time 03-09-2006 06:47 PM

Which one: K custom ride, K ride, or Paiste Rude ride? All 20". Needs versatility.

Tim 03-09-2006 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=kingofthedrums22]Which one: K custom ride, K ride, or Paiste Rude ride? All 20". Needs versatility.[/QUOTE]

id go with a k ride, k heavy ride.

styler 03-10-2006 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=saars]ok, last question (AGAIN). So, you know that cymbals fit together when their thickness is similar?[/QUOTE]
not necesarily. but generally cymbals of the same size and thickness will meld together abit better. some people like bigger or smaller cymbals though. i personally like 16" thin crashes.

16" aaxplosion
16" HHXtreme
16" HHX evolution

etc etc, like that.

it all depends on what you like the sound of, versus the feel of the cymbal, versus the type of music you play.

heavier music will want brighter, softer will want darker tones. etc etc.

styler 03-10-2006 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=kingofthedrums22]Which one: K custom ride, K ride, or Paiste Rude ride? All 20". Needs versatility.[/QUOTE]
the paiste rude is totally different sounding than the other two. the paiste rude has lots of projection with a whole lot of ping, the k customs are more tonal rides.

HeLLmO 03-10-2006 06:31 AM

^and it ain't to versitile(the rude) 22'' K Heavy ride ftw

styler 03-10-2006 07:33 AM

whats ftw stand for?

the heavy ride has nice overtones, but i dont think its prominent enough in the music.

HeLLmO 03-10-2006 09:30 AM

i belive ftw stands for For The Win, or atleast that is my understanding

TTTSNB 03-10-2006 10:31 AM

[SIZE=2]How would this crash setup work?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]15" K Custom[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]16" HHXPlosion[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]17" HHXPlosion[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]18" Stage[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]19" Vault[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]20" Stage[/SIZE]

HeLLmO 03-10-2006 11:29 AM

sounds very nice to me HHXplosions are great, stage crashes are great, i love big vaults, and i'm not to sure about the 15'', but i know K customs in general are good, so i'm sure it won't suck

Tim 03-10-2006 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=TTTSNB][SIZE=2]How would this crash setup work?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]15" K Custom[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]16" HHXPlosion[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]17" HHXPlosion[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]18" Stage[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]19" Vault[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]20" Stage[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

do you mean the HHX stage crashes? if so that looks like a great crash setup. Probably wouldnt be as good if they were AAX's so id say HHX :D.

styler 03-10-2006 03:14 PM

i would probably raise the k custom to a 16"

thats about it.

the stages are a good bit louder than the other crashes.

saars 03-10-2006 07:44 PM

[QUOTE=styler]heavier music will want brighter, softer will want darker tones. etc etc.[/QUOTE]

are you serious? I guess I better look for brighter cymbals...

[QUOTE]i belive ftw stands for For The Win, or atleast that is my understanding[/QUOTE]

mmmhmm, that's what it's for.

TTTSNB 03-11-2006 12:47 AM

[quote=saars]are you serious? I guess I better look for brighter cymbals...



mmmhmm, that's what it's for.[/quote]
Yeah, but its a bit of a paradox. For heavy music, you're not gonna be able to hit them very hard at speed, so what I'd suggest is bigger, but fairly thin cymbals, like 18", 19" Vaults, Stages, etc.

\m/-CHeV-\m/ 03-11-2006 11:34 AM

i have a k custom 18" crash, and my next buy will be an a custom proj crash.. they sound very alike..

playwithfire 03-11-2006 02:44 PM

^Not in my experience!

styler 03-12-2006 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=saars]are you serious? I guess I better look for brighter cymbals...
[/QUOTE]
its not a rule or anything just guidelines, heavier music usually wants the drumming to stand out abit, where in jazz and etc its abit more about expression.

im not very happy with my 20" projection crash, mighty loud, but it doesnt meld with any of my other crashes.

sure there HHX evo's. but thats not the point :lol:

its a nice aux ride though, ontop of it being a good crash with others of the same size. just not the most manuverable crash ever.

saars 03-12-2006 01:30 PM

Ok, let's try this again, but only with the crashes:

18" A Thin Crash
17" AAXplosion Crash
16" Vault Crash

Opinions? C&C appreciated

KK2K5 03-12-2006 02:33 PM

Im looking for a much cheaper alternative to Mike Portnoys Max Stax range. Are there any cymbals or cymbal stacks that could produce a similar sound but for a much lower price? I also think that MP's stax are heavily eq'd on the albums and that the psund in real life is fairly different so im looking for a sound similar to the DT albums.

Tim 03-12-2006 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=KK2K5]Im looking for a much cheaper alternative to Mike Portnoys Max Stax range. Are there any cymbals or cymbal stacks that could produce a similar sound but for a much lower price? I also think that MP's stax are heavily eq'd on the albums and that the psund in real life is fairly different so im looking for a sound similar to the DT albums.[/QUOTE]

stack any 2 cymbals and youll get that sound. Just stack some cheap wuhans man. wuhan 12inch china on top of a 14inch crash or something.

Tim 03-12-2006 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=saars]Ok, let's try this again, but only with the crashes:

18" A Thin Crash
18" AAXplosion Crash
16" Vault Crash

Opinions? C&C appreciated[/QUOTE]


fix'd

playwithfire 03-12-2006 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=styler]the projection crashes are really thick. the stage crash is a thinner cymbal. might not meld. the dark crash im not sure about.[/QUOTE]I never noticed this post before. Projections are Medium Thin, Stage's are Medium...

saars 03-12-2006 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]fix'd[/QUOTE]


ok, so the main crash is gonna be the AAXplosion and the crash on my right would be the a thin crash and the crash on the left of my hi hats would be the vault. Good enough?

Cocaberry 03-12-2006 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=playwithfire]I never noticed this post before. Projections are Medium Thin, Stage's are Medium...[/QUOTE]

No, Stages are medium-thin also, according to their 2005-2006 catalog.

styler 03-12-2006 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=playwithfire]I never noticed this post before. Projections are Medium Thin, Stage's are Medium...[/QUOTE]
my 20" is a good bit heavier and thicker than a rock crash man. stages are probably more medium thin than the projection's.

playwithfire 03-13-2006 12:49 AM

Hmm... I stand corrected, I always thought it was Studio = Thin, Stage = Medium. I guess I need to read up a little more on Sabian, don't know them quite as well as Zildjian I suppose. Sorry for posting information that is apparently wrong guys!

styler 03-13-2006 06:13 AM

i forgive you. your a canadian, so all is well.


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