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conciousuniverse 02-23-2005 10:26 PM

"You can kill the revolutionary, but you cant kill the revolution"

Darkness 02-23-2005 10:35 PM

I don't believe Electric sheep ever recorded anything...

Kage 02-23-2005 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I don't believe Electric sheep ever recorded anything...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, to my knowledge they never did, or there's not anything available to say the least. They were in that project as high schoolers, right? I doubt we could get our hands on any of that.

I'm also an RATM fan, but not near as much as Tool.

BlindWriting 02-23-2005 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I listened to the CD, the guy actually has a good voice (e.g. Still Day Beneath the Sun) but in songs such as Blackwater Park, he just screams and it really ruins great instrumental songs.[/QUOTE]
The first Opeth songs I listened to were The Funeral Portrait and Blackwater Park. I've never been a fan of death metal vocals, but this was definitely the right band to get me accustomed to that sort of sound. It really threw me off, hearing that amazing progressive metal music paired with death-style vocals, but I was slowly but surely growing to apprecaite them. Once you get passed that, and really let it grow on you, you'll love Opeth. I think they are an amazing band, and I've noticed quite a few fellow Tool fans also taking interest in them.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-23-2005 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I don't believe Electric sheep ever recorded anything...[/QUOTE]

I really didn't think so, but I figured it was worth asking. heh. Now, could somebody please gmail the song RATM did with Tool? Rep ++ if you do :naughty:

[email]spiralout7@gmail.com[/email]

BlindWriting 02-23-2005 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]I love RATM, also on the Tool topic nothing like Maynard singing on Know Your Enemy, just one of the many things that makes that song awsome :thumb: .[/QUOTE]
I thought the RATM song that Maynard sang on was called "Revolution".

Magicaltroll 02-23-2005 11:36 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I listened to the CD, the guy actually has a good voice (e.g. Still Day Beneath the Sun) but in songs such as Blackwater Park, he just screams and it really ruins great instrumental songs.[/QUOTE]
I love the screaming, but like i said its not for everyone.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-23-2005 11:41 PM

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I thought the RATM song that Maynard sang on was called "Revolution".[/QUOTE]

The RATM song he was refferring to is actually on a RATM album, where he just does sort of a cameo one line appearance on the song. Revolution is a collaboration of RATM and Tool, minus Adam Jones, I beleive.

conciousuniverse 02-23-2005 11:44 PM

BlindWriting,

Fortunately, Keenan appears on both "Revolution" and "Know Your Enemy"

conciousuniverse 02-23-2005 11:49 PM

hah, sorry about that copycat post Kombucha 'shroom!
i should have reloaded the page...

::listening to revolution:: what a phenomenal collaboration!

Anarchy_In_Mexico 02-24-2005 12:09 AM

Actually Electric sheep did record a cd, i once saw it at amoeba but i don't remember why i didn't buy it, havent seen it since (and its still killing me that i didn't buy it everytime i remember about it) but there is such a thing as an Electric Sheep record

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-24-2005 12:18 AM

[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000008958/qid%3D1109225798/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-5690872-5158434[/url]

I found their album on Amazon. There wasn't a single review for it or anything.

BlindWriting 02-24-2005 12:24 AM

Ah, thanks for the clarification about the RATM stuff.

pigonthewing82 02-24-2005 01:07 AM

Yea I really missed Maynards voice on the RATM Live at the Ollympic Grand. Great album though. You know I hope no sh1tty band does a Tool cover, its so hard to replace his voice.

conciousuniverse 02-24-2005 01:32 AM

Haha.

opeth_oasis 02-24-2005 01:52 AM

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]In Chains 36 [/B]
I listened to the CD, the guy actually has a good voice (e.g. Still Day Beneath the Sun) but in songs such as Blackwater Park, he just screams and it really ruins great instrumental songs.[/QUOTE]

the growls are some of the best in metal, trust me most death metal growls are alot more difficult to listen to

Danny Carey is GOD 02-24-2005 03:57 AM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Yea I really missed Maynards voice on the RATM Live at the Ollympic Grand. Great album though. You know I hope no sh1tty band does a Tool cover, its so hard to replace his voice.[/QUOTE]
I got a video of maynard in that song.
"I got no patience now, so sick of complacence now, sick of, sick of, sick of, sick of, you....." Unfortunately, just after maynard bit, it cuts out for a few seconds into some wierd tv thing, then it goes back to the same gig, and plays bombtrack-without maynard :(

Corganschild 02-24-2005 06:33 AM

Eh well not to bring the mood down or change topic here but I feel kinda dumb reading all of these lyrical interpretations.. a lot of the things I'm reading I'm thinking, "Huh?" Right now I'd like to just concentrate on the music for myself anyway, not the lyrics because I'm usually wrong anyway.. thinking I'm smarter than I really am maybe, lol. Is it wrong to simply get into the music and ignore the words for awhile? lol

Dried Muffin Remnants 02-24-2005 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]the growls are some of the best in metal, trust me most death metal growls are alot more difficult to listen to[/QUOTE]


You could definitely be right. I'm just not a fan of death metal, likely BECAUSE of the screaming.

Again though, I don't want people to think that I'm completely down on the band though. Their instruments are the pretty close to the apex of music. Amazing music.

Dancin' Man 02-24-2005 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I just listened to Blackwater Park.

It's too bad, such great music was wasted with garbage vocals.[/QUOTE]

No one trashes Mikael's growls. They are perfectly done. People need to get over harsh vocals because often times, they fit the music perfectly. Learn to appreciate them, it will help you get into a whole new area of music that is excellent.

CreepingDeath~ 02-24-2005 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]No one trashes Mikael's growls. They are perfectly done. People need to get over harsh vocals because often times, they fit the music perfectly. Learn to appreciate them, it will help you get into a whole new area of music that is excellent.[/QUOTE]

I don't like most growl singers, but Opeth is one band that the growls IMO suit the music very well, and I can listen to.

The JoZ 02-24-2005 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]No one trashes Mikael's growls. They are perfectly done. People need to get over harsh vocals because often times, they fit the music perfectly. Learn to appreciate them, it will help you get into a whole new area of music that is excellent.[/QUOTE]

No, we don't need to get over them.

I don't like alot of bands because their vocals disgust me, which applies to alot of death and black metal bands. If it sounds like you're regurgitating rather than singing or screaming, it's not good, it's bad.

That being said, I do like alot more bands with harsher vocals than I used to, but that doesn't mean I like all of them.

pigonthewing82 02-24-2005 12:20 PM

Has anybody in here ever seen Tool live? I heard they own, please share the it wih us.

TheSubtleArts 02-24-2005 02:18 PM

yea they do, from what i hear,, ive never seen them either

siva_chair 02-24-2005 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]No, we don't need to get over them.

I don't like alot of bands because their vocals disgust me, which applies to alot of death and black metal bands. If it sounds like you're regurgitating rather than singing or screaming, it's not good, it's bad.

That being said, I do like alot more bands with harsher vocals than I used to, but that doesn't mean I like all of them.[/QUOTE]


Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumb:

Kage 02-24-2005 02:59 PM

When they tour behind the new album, there's nothing that's stopping me from seeing them. Last time I got the chance, I missed it and I never forgave myself.

clearvision 02-24-2005 03:00 PM

Holy Sh!t..new mars volta album is tops...

They are a bti prog like tool...tool fans opinions?

the widow = genius

misunderstood 02-24-2005 03:06 PM

I like the Mars Volta alot actually. De-loused in the Comatorium is a great album...I'm really looking forward to Frances the Mute

Adam Jones is GOD 02-24-2005 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=clearvision]Holy Sh!t..new mars volta album is tops...

They are a bti prog like tool...tool fans opinions?

the widow = genius[/QUOTE]

:eek:

joo live in teh UK? Tis not out till monday.....so you did a baaaad thing :p

My first album taste of TMV starts next tuesday, stupid local music store charges too much for pieces of art, and cheap for pieces of crap...

(LOKI) 02-24-2005 03:31 PM

I just wanted to come hear to show off my nice new avatar:D


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