where does it break?


/very important

[QUOTE=Jom]ITT: people give me two-minute tips on how to re-string my guitar.

Everytime I re-string it, the top string ALWAYS breaks, so I can only play songs using the bottom five strings. This pretty much sucks, because there are barely any songs that do not use the top string.

Please and thank you :o

PS: guitar is an easy-peesy mac-and-cheesey Squier Strat. Helllllllll yeah.

I realize that it's supposed to be easy, but I obviously suck.[/QUOTE]

It could be that the nut is really bad and so your string is catching on some sort of flaw inside the space where it gets threaded through, causing it to snag and break. My strings usually break when changing them because of a temperature problem that causes the action and bridge of my guitar to go screwy when compared to the amount of tension the strings apply. It could be that since the Squire Strat is such a poorly-made guitar that your neck is messed up compared to the amount of tension it's supposed to handle, or that the string guage you're using is too heavy for the guitar.

Out of interest: what string guage are you using? And does it only break just as you're tuning it up to pitch immediately after restringing?

EDIT: And yeah, it's really good to know if it breaks by the bridge or by the nut, generally speaking. The place where it breaks is a good clue to what your guitar's problem is.

Also, I know you like a lot of nu-metal, so if you're tuning only up to C, the action/tension/intonation relationship is probably SEVERELY messed up which would cause your strings to do funny things like break. My strings break sometimes when tuning DOWN to a lower pitch, and this happens more often than breakage by tuning up. Other times I'll be tuning up TO standard from a lower open tuning (on my acoustic), and it'll break even though theoretically it should be fine as it's only tuning up to what it's designed for. This usually has to do with the guitar not being able to handle the constant action between the relief and application of stress that comes with having it in a tuning other than what it is set up for (and your Squire is probably optimized, if that's even the word, for standard).

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]where does it break?


/very important[/QUOTE]

At the nut/headstock.

EDIT: crap, Cain the ninja. Hang on.

[quote=Cain]It could be that the nut is really bad and so your string is catching on some sort of flaw inside the space where it gets threaded through, causing it to snag and break. My strings usually break when changing them because of a temperature problem that causes the action and bridge of my guitar to go screwy when compared to the amount of tension the strings apply. It could be that since the Squire Strat is such a poorly-made guitar that your neck is messed up compared to the amount of tension it's supposed to handle, or that the string guage you're using is too heavy for the guitar.

Out of interest: what string guage are you using? And does it only break just as you're tuning it up to pitch immediately after restringing?

EDIT: And yeah, it's really good to know if it breaks by the bridge or by the nut, generally speaking. The place where it breaks is a good clue to what your guitar's problem is.[/quote]

I used 11s for awhile (dropped) without much of a problem. Now I have 12s to start playing again in standard, and yeah, they break pretty much when I'm tuning. The break is always at the nut/headstock, never down low towards the base.

I can take pictures of the guitar, but the problem here is that I need to find batteries for my camera.

I bought this guitar used to begin with, and it never really gave me any problems tone-wise or intonation-wise, I just figured I sucked at re-stringing. But after six or seven times, it's getting rather annoying, heh.

id say stretch it more before you go up to E....




or, you might have a bur on the machine head

I'm sorry about the ninja edits. I'll post my reply in a sec. :p

Right, so I "borrowed" some batteries from an unsuspecting roommate.

Give me a few moments.

EDIT: I just realized that this is pointless, as this isn't going to tell much.

Well, my bridge screws/springs are loose, but from what I understand this is normal. The only thing is that the bottom string's screw is so loose that part of the bridge covers the string hole, but that's a bit unreasonable. Otherwise, maybe I should just accept the fact that my re-stringing ability sucks a fat one.

[QUOTE=Jom]ITT: people give me two-minute tips on how to re-string my guitar.

Everytime I re-string it, the top string ALWAYS breaks, so I can only play songs using the bottom five strings. This pretty much sucks, because there are barely any songs that do not use the top string.

Please and thank you :o

PS: guitar is an easy-peesy mac-and-cheesey Squier Strat. Helllllllll yeah.

I realize that it's supposed to be easy, but I obviously suck.[/QUOTE]
file down the metal/plastic whereever the string sits, and on the tuner head wrap the string around twice before putting it throught the hole.
hope it helped :)

[QUOTE=Jom]At the nut/headstock.

EDIT: crap, Cain the ninja. Hang on.



I used 11s for awhile (dropped) without much of a problem. Now I have 12s to start playing again in standard, and yeah, they break pretty much when I'm tuning. The break is always at the nut/headstock, never down low towards the base.

I can take pictures of the guitar, but the problem here is that I need to find batteries for my camera.

I bought this guitar used to begin with, and it never really gave me any problems tone-wise or intonation-wise, I just figured I sucked at re-stringing. But after six or seven times, it's getting rather annoying, heh.[/QUOTE]

You don't suck at restringing. It seems that the basic problem is a difference between string guage and pitch considering what the guitar is set up for. For one thing, most cheap guitars work best with really light guages like 9s or 10s, not 11s or 12s (which are light guages for acoustic guitars, just to put it in perspective: the E on a 12 set is the same guage as a B for a light electric set), and your Squire probably came off the shelf optimized for nines or tens in standard: after all, the Squire is technically a beginner's guitar, and beginners learn and play best with really light guages like that. Even if you brought it in to have it set up for dropped tunings or heavier string guages, guitar shops hate setting intonation (especially on bad guitars like the Squire) because it's a nearly impossible thing to do. As a result, they'll avoid it wherever possible: you'll go in and say "Change my strings and set it up for intonation," and they'll just change the strings and charge you 30 dollars. :rolleyes:

Plus, down-tuning causes the neck and the bridge to go funny, since there isn't as much stress as it's used to. This won't be a problem while you're in the tuning, especially with heavier guages (where it all sort of evens out, tension wise) but if you suddenly decide to take all your strings off and tune to standard with a guage heavier (as you say you're doing, switching from 11s to 12s) what you're doing is adding like 50 additional pounds of tension that the neck is no longer equipped to handle: since your string is breaking at the nut, I'm almost positive that your neck is out of alignment with the bridge and that tuning up to standard with an even heavier guage is just too much tension for your already thoroughly screwed-up guitar body to handle. Your best bet would be to take it in to a shop and ask what's the deal: I'm no guitar tech, but based on what I know about basic maintenence it sounds like that's the problem you're having. A simple truss-rod adjustment and maybe some action setting should fix it. It shouldn't cost you very much, either.

A professional guy would be able to tell you for sure. Just make sure he doesn't treat you like a little kid, because if he thinks you don't know anything about your problem, he won't fix it and he'll still charge you money for whatever he does, hoping you'll bring it back again when it still has problems, so that he can charge you MORE money.

/economics

EDIT: This is my best guess. I could be pissing in the wind, but I think that that's what's happening.

Hey guys, go listen to Chapter Four on [url]www.myspace.com/avengedsevenfold[/url]

Its the live version, their drummer really slays.

Right, thanks. I'll be sure to reward you guys (Che, when you get kurrpt back [barring decision or whatever], I'll just add it to that) when I get back from class.

Part of it I think has to do with the guitar being so used. When I was cleaning it yesterday after I de-stringed it, there was this candlewax substance all over my fretboard. Combination of cloth and Q-tips = pretty nasty crap. And all these screws are loose, and the washer that holds my output jack together fell off, and it's starting to basically crap out for now.

I do have a set of 9s with me, so maybe I can just slap those on instead of the 12s.

Also, a guitar shop is out of the question, because I'm in the freakin' boonies right now. I might take it in when I go home for holiday break in December, but I can just have my tech friend have a look - he was the one that taught me how to re-string it in the first place.

I'll just try to re-string after class and see how it goes. If strings break again, I'm just giving up this guitar for a time and staying with bass.

Thanks again, everyone :-\

[QUOTE=Jom]Right, thanks. I'll be sure to reward you guys (Che, when you get kurrpt back [barring decision or whatever], I'll just add it to that) when I get back from class.

Part of it I think has to do with the guitar being so used. When I was cleaning it yesterday after I de-stringed it, there was this candlewax substance all over my fretboard. Combination of cloth and Q-tips = pretty nasty crap. And all these screws are loose, and the washer that holds my output jack together fell off, and it's starting to basically crap out for now.

I do have a set of 9s with me, so maybe I can just slap those on instead of the 12s.

Also, a guitar shop is out of the question, because I'm in the freakin' boonies right now. I might take it in when I go home for holiday break in December, but I can just have my tech friend have a look - he was the one that taught me how to re-string it in the first place.

I'll just try to re-string after class and see how it goes. If strings break again, I'm just giving up this guitar for a time and staying with bass.

Thanks again, everyone :-\[/QUOTE]
only too happy to help, if I did at all :-/
thanks again for that rep.

[QUOTE=Arucard]Hey guys, go listen to Chapter Four on [url]www.myspace.com/avengedsevenfold[/url]

Its the live version, their drummer really slays.[/QUOTE]
Hot Piss, you're right.

[QUOTE=Josh]i go hunting, but i'm not a redneck and i listen to metal. but still, that would get really annoying. gather up all the metalheads around and go hunt the annoying people instead?[/QUOTE]

Oh, I enjoy hunting as well, I just love the hypocrisy of those people and the irony of it all.

I'd thought of having a hunting trip with my band and our friends in another local band. :)

So our school just got a tornado warning. Fricken' GREAT. Never been in a tornado before. Guess today's my lucky day.

NP: The sound of death in the form of a large swirling funnel of wind

[QUOTE=Jom]Right, thanks. I'll be sure to reward you guys (Che, when you get kurrpt back [barring decision or whatever], I'll just add it to that) when I get back from class.

[/QUOTE]



awesome man, i appreciate it...


im told ill definitely get my real user name back before the 1/16/2006 date (when bannage is supposed to be up)


im not sure when they will decide to give it back. Im waiting patiently none the less

Why did you get banned?

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Jom, used barbed wire.

So my 13-year old brother just unleashed a torrent of abuse at me after my ejecting him from my room. For some reason he was doing his homework in here. I wasn't even mean about it. I fear he may not as yet have forgiven me for laughing at him when he spilled his soup. :(

NP: Botch - Framce[/QUOTE]

What manner of spillage/laughter was it? Like, did he burn himself and you laughed your arse off, or did he just get his shirt dirty and you giggled, or..?

[QUOTE=ICB]Why did you get banned?[/QUOTE]



haha its kind of funny actually...


since i only post at work, i missed everyone else getting banned for those cookie stealin links...

i saw this thread about someones new guitar, and i thought to myself "wow, how did i miss this thread"


I clicked on the second photo, and got redirected else where....


then thechad came to one of my threads about WiFi spots and started editting all my posts and stuff. I guess he did some worse stuff, but i didnt take note.

I already changed my password, so he cant repeat the process. Im just waiting for a mod to get around to it actually

Ha, ultimate ownage. Sorry to hear that, bro.

[QUOTE=ICB]Ha, ultimate ownage. Sorry to hear that, bro.[/QUOTE]



yuppers, i was definitely owned haha



i was totally taken by surprise...



so i lost my MX account, and my PSP all in the same day :thumb:



AWESOME!

Wow, you've had a great week :p .

I'm pumped for that "inevitable" tornado, man, BRING IT ON, GOD!!!!

NP: The faint sound of death because the tornado wussed out a bit I guess.

id love to see a tornado close up...



ive actually had dreams where i just stare in amazement at them....


like i would if i saw a 3 boobed lady or something

I am of the belief that three titties would totally just kill the hotness of a woman :lol: It'd just be weird to see...

But yeah, like I said, never experienced a tornado...I guess it's gonna just miss us...

well obviously 3 is not cool...


buts its LIKE a tornado in that its a little too MUCH, but i just couldnt help but stare

:lol: good way to put it...

Well I'm off to work...dammit. Talk to y'all later.

NP: Dukes of Hazzard theme song lololololol get it

im actually out in an hour...


but have a better one then me :lol:

Good deal. I come home from school to find my much-coveted [I]Are You Dead Yet?[/I] CD from Amazon waiting for me on the front porch. :)

what is it?

[url= Neg] [/url]rep for the first person to upload the whole of " the great southern trendkill" le Pantera.
maith sé do thoilé .
Go raibh mile maith agat.
(please and thankyou as Gaeilge)

I hate to change my avatar so soon, but I had to celebrate the coming of Shadows Fall's first DVD. :cool:

[QUOTE=Axe][url= Neg] [/url]rep for the first person to upload the whole of " the great southern trendkill" le Pantera.
maith sé do thoilé .
Go raibh mile maith agat.
(please and thankyou as Gaeilge)[/QUOTE]



you iz be'n a whore huh....


i cant say ive ever heard 2 pantera songs in a row though, sorry bro...

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Más é do thoil é .
[/QUOTE]
really?

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]For real.

NP: Manics - Miss Europe Disco Dancer[/QUOTE]
balls, neg-rep for correcting me.

[QUOTE=Axe]really?[/QUOTE]
Ich weiss nicht. :(

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Ich weiss nicht. :([/QUOTE]
you're not white?

[QUOTE=Axe]you're not white?[/QUOTE]

I don't know.

NP: Korn - Blind

[QUOTE=Axe]you're not white?[/QUOTE]
I don't know.

Damn my keyboard for not having a ß key, although the meaning is the same either way.

NP: Morbid Angel - Immortal Rites

yeh, sorry...
/fayles at learning german.
Ich heiße Conor
And I used to do it in school :(

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I don't know.

Damn my keyboard for not having a ß key, although the meaning is the same either way.

NP: Morbid Angel - Immortal Rites[/QUOTE]

Ich weiß nicht.

ß = alt+0223

I forget the a and o umlauts, and I don't know any of the caps ones :(.

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Ich weiß nicht.

ß = alt+0223

I forget the a and o umlauts, and I don't know any of the caps ones :(.[/QUOTE]
I tried alt+0223 but it did weird things to my desktop.

You might have weird malware on your comp, or your comp might just need a reboot... it should give you the esset.