fortunatly they both kick ***, but for rock and metal i definatly think the AA raw dry bell would be best

Looking for 2 cymbals.

I'm looking for a ride to acompany my 21" A Sweet Ride. Was considering a ride with a nice ping to it or possibaly a dark sounding ride that would acompany it well. (suggestions on both would be great)

Second is a splash or two I was considering getting one glassy sounding one and another one to match my other cymbals (A's + A Customs / K/Z hats). I'm thinking along the lines of fairly large splash's for a nice washy sound.

Would consider either Paiste or Zildjian. (Sorry just not a sabian fan).

So this is my plan on cymbals when I get a set:

16" Zildjian A Custom Projection Crash
17" Sabian AAX Dark Crash
14" A Zildjian New Beats
10" A Ziljdian Splash*
10" Sabian AA Splash
18" Sabian HHX Stage Crash
21" A Zildjian Sweet Ride*
18" Wuhan China

*I already have this particular cymbal.

So, any thing I should change? The chinas I've tried out at GC (oriental china trash, a custom china, paragon china) are too trashy for my taste. I don't know if the three crashes will fit in with each other, please tell me if they will or not. CC please, nothing ****ty.

[QUOTE=saars]So this is my plan on cymbals when I get a set:

16" Zildjian A Custom Projection Crash
17" Sabian AAX Dark Crash
14" A Zildjian New Beats
10" A Ziljdian Splash*
10" Sabian AA Splash
18" Sabian HHX Stage Crash
21" A Zildjian Sweet Ride*
18" Wuhan China

*I already have this particular cymbal.

So, any thing I should change? The chinas I've tried out at GC (oriental china trash, a custom china, paragon china) are too trashy for my taste. I don't know if the three crashes will fit in with each other, please tell me if they will or not. CC please, nothing ****ty.[/QUOTE]
What kind of chick do you want with your hats? Because if you want a really nice one I recommend K mastersounds....

I want hats that have very loud chick and dark, but not too dark. Also, I really don't want anything wayy expensive. I just checked the k mastersounds and their 310 USD. Yes, I will check ebay too.:)


EDIT: are there anything in sabian that match the k hats? I sure hope it'd be a lot cheaper...

[QUOTE=Locke]Looking for 2 cymbals.

I'm looking for a ride to acompany my 21" A Sweet Ride. Was considering a ride with a nice ping to it or possibaly a dark sounding ride that would acompany it well. (suggestions on both would be great)

Second is a splash or two I was considering getting one glassy sounding one and another one to match my other cymbals (A's + A Customs / K/Z hats). I'm thinking along the lines of fairly large splash's for a nice washy sound.

Would consider either Paiste or Zildjian. (Sorry just not a sabian fan).[/QUOTE]
22" K Heavy Ride and 10" A Splash

[QUOTE=Locke]Looking for 2 cymbals.

I'm looking for a ride to acompany my 21" A Sweet Ride. Was considering a ride with a nice ping to it or possibaly a dark sounding ride that would acompany it well. (suggestions on both would be great)

Second is a splash or two I was considering getting one glassy sounding one and another one to match my other cymbals (A's + A Customs / K/Z hats). I'm thinking along the lines of fairly large splash's for a nice washy sound.[/QUOTE]I would get either a 21" A Rock (that way you have a heavy duty, piercing ping to match the wash of the Sweet ride), or a 22" K (so you have that dark sound), or in between, a 22" K Heavy, so you have both dark sound and a lot of ping.

As for the second cymbal, I would get a 12" A Custom for a washy, glassy sound, and a 10" A for a nice sharp cut.

[QUOTE=saars]So this is my plan on cymbals when I get a set:

16" Zildjian A Custom Projection Crash
17" Sabian AAX Dark Crash
14" A Zildjian New Beats
10" A Ziljdian Splash*
10" Sabian AA Splash
18" Sabian HHX Stage Crash
21" A Zildjian Sweet Ride*
18" Wuhan China

*I already have this particular cymbal.

So, any thing I should change? The chinas I've tried out at GC (oriental china trash, a custom china, paragon china) are too trashy for my taste. I don't know if the three crashes will fit in with each other, please tell me if they will or not. CC please, nothing ****ty.[/QUOTE]The splashes are like... identical, why bother? They are so similar you might as well get 2 As. Aside from that... there's no cymbal I particularly dislike in the bunch.

So, what splash would sound well with the a splash?

A Custom would be glassier, AAX would be sharper... K would be darker... I would probably go with either the 10" K, or a different sized A.

hmm... I gotta try these splashes out at my local store... thanks for the opinion. Anyone else agree or disagree to my list of to-buy cymbals?

What's a good quality Sabian set (or seperates) I can get which will be 'heavy duty', but doesn't cost too much? I play alot of metal and have a double pedal, so I definitely don't play light.

[QUOTE=saars]I want hats that have very loud chick and dark, but not too dark. Also, I really don't want anything wayy expensive. I just checked the k mastersounds and their 310 USD. Yes, I will check ebay too.:)


EDIT: are there anything in sabian that match the k hats? I sure hope it'd be a lot cheaper...[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure of sabian...Look at the other zildjian mastersounds,A, A customs, ect..They may be cheaper than the K's
heres an auction... [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/13-Zildjian-Mastersound-Hi-Hat-Cymbals-NR_W0QQitemZ7396499749QQcategoryZ41447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

[QUOTE=Inkstar]What's a good quality Sabian set (or seperates) I can get which will be 'heavy duty', but doesn't cost too much? I play alot of metal and have a double pedal, so I definitely don't play light.[/QUOTE]


AA and AAX would definatly work u can get sets of both, or u could just get like the AAXplosion crash pack, and like maybe AAX stage hats and the AA raw dry bell ride

[QUOTE=Inkstar]What's a good quality Sabian set (or seperates) I can get which will be 'heavy duty', but doesn't cost too much? I play alot of metal and have a double pedal, so I definitely don't play light.[/QUOTE]I would look into... AA regular hats, AA Medium crashes, and an AA Rock or Dry Tight ride.

Hi guys
I'm looking for a ride with much stick definition and little audible wash.
I've heard Mike Portnoy's HH rock ride 22" and I think it sounds absolutely amazing. I've never heard it live though, and since no-one has it in store here in Norway i've gotta special-order it to get it..
What other rides do you recommend?

[QUOTE=Sagmyr]Hi guys
I'm looking for a ride with much stick definition and little audible wash.
I've heard Mike Portnoy's HH rock ride 22" and I think it sounds absolutely amazing. I've never heard it live though, and since no-one has it in store here in Norway i've gotta special-order it to get it..
What other rides do you recommend?[/QUOTE]


AA rock ride. 21inch.

Okay, After A Long time decidng heres what Im gonna buy for hats and crash in the next year.

14" Zildjian New beats (325$)
16" Zildjian Custom K Crash (270$)

Prices Are in Canadian dollars. BUt yeh, its taking me a while because I ahve to buy a Double pedal and snare drum first.

[QUOTE=White]Okay, After A Long time decidng heres what Im gonna buy for hats and crash in the next year.

14" Zildjian New beats (325$)
16" Zildjian Custom K Crash (270$)

Prices Are in Canadian dollars. BUt yeh, its taking me a while because I ahve to buy a Double pedal and snare drum first.[/QUOTE]


I would get hihats first b4 the snare. Unless you dotn have a snare at all of course.

I'd go hats before double pedal..

[QUOTE=aznriceball]I'd go hats before double pedal..[/QUOTE]

that too.

Does anyone here have a K Custom ride or K custom dark ride? How are they? I want to know what other people think, because I don't trust MF reviews.

ive got a 20" K custom ride. lots of ping. a good bit of wash. it could live with being a little louder with a more piercing bell. beautiful ride though.

Thanks HeLLmO and playwithfire! I'll start looking into those AA and AAX.

Which one of these China cymbals are the best? Im looking for a thrashy sound with a short sustain.. These are all i can afford at the moment and i really need one..

Wuhan 16"
Wuhan 20"
Stagg 18"
Paiste PST 3 18"


Thanks

One more question, will the following crashes sound good together?

16" Zildjian A Custom Projection Crash
17" Sabian AAX Dark Crash
18" Sabian HHX Stage Crash

Just wanna know before I start buying...

Hey I'm looking for top notch hats that have a good sound open or closed. Price range, nothing over 400$.

[QUOTE=saars]One more question, will the following crashes sound good together?

16" Zildjian A Custom Projection Crash
17" Sabian AAX Dark Crash
18" Sabian HHX Stage Crash

Just wanna know before I start buying...[/QUOTE]


the AAX dark crash really isnt that dark at all. Get an AAX plosion or something to go with that HHX stage. :D

[QUOTE=Sabian4015]Hey I'm looking for top notch hats that have a good sound open or closed. Price range, nothing over 400$.[/QUOTE]

Sabian AAX stage hats
Sabian AA regular hats
Zildjian A new beats
Zildjian K top hat and Z dyno beat bottom

[QUOTE=Dazed457]Which one of these China cymbals are the best? Im looking for a thrashy sound with a short sustain.. These are all i can afford at the moment and i really need one..

Wuhan 16"
Wuhan 20"
Stagg 18"
Paiste PST 3 18"


Thanks[/QUOTE]

probably wont get short sustain out of any of those but for trashy and not as much sustain go with the wuhan 16.

[QUOTE=saars]One more question, will the following crashes sound good together?

16" Zildjian A Custom Projection Crash
17" Sabian AAX Dark Crash
18" Sabian HHX Stage Crash

Just wanna know before I start buying...[/QUOTE]
the projection crashes are really thick. the stage crash is a thinner cymbal. might not meld. the dark crash im not sure about.