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scenesfromatheater 11-01-2005 03:01 PM

Who likes my new avatar??:naughty:

Ad Absurdum 11-01-2005 03:23 PM

[quote=scenesfromatheater]Oh......him.:confused:[/quote]
He's the guitarist from Freak Kitchen, if you (or anyone else) wants you could post your email and I'll send a few tracks. I'd really recommend giving him a try.

[quote=shamed-angel]I love the way JP uses themes and vocal melodies from Metropolis Pt 1 as guitar solos in Pt 2.[/quote]
Me too, especially when he throws little variations on them.

[quote=Lord Abortion]I like SFOAM better than awake... I just can't get into awake at all except space dye vest, which is magnificent.[/quote]
I personally think [i]Scenes From A Memory[/i] is kind of boring, there's a couple of great tracks but there's too many tracks that (for me) bring the story along but fail to intrest me on a musical level. [i]Awake[/i] is by far my favourite Dream Theater album because it all intrests me musically. At least we have some common ground on 'Space Dye Vest' though.

scenesfromatheater 11-01-2005 03:36 PM

Voices is the only song that I enjoy on Awake, I got into it cause it goes from Octavarium to that on Once In a Livetime on winamp, so I always listen to it.

Lord Abortion 11-01-2005 03:46 PM

[QUOTE]51. Tool is NOT prog. If anyone insists they are, kill them. [/QUOTE]
/prepares knife

scenesfromatheater 11-01-2005 03:49 PM

I'm not sure what I'd class Tool as. hmmmm....

red barchetta 11-01-2005 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence tickles my fancy quite well.[/QUOTE]
6 degrees > other DT albums IMO.

blind faith and disappear are great songs

scenesfromatheater 11-01-2005 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=red barchetta]6 degrees > other DT albums IMO.

blind faith and disappear are great songs[/QUOTE]

The Glass Prison is the best song (on 6DOIT) IMO, after that it's got to be the song 6 Degrees.

nowitzki 11-01-2005 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]/prepares knife[/QUOTE]

Med 57 said Tool were prog in his prog feature :smash:

shamed-angel 11-01-2005 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Do you think if I hit Petrucci with a stick a few times he'll agree to make DT play Space dye vest on the next tour?[/QUOTE]
They legally can't...

nowitzki 11-01-2005 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]They legally can't...[/QUOTE]


That can't be right, it's a Dream Theater song, it's just the band's desicion not to play it.

scenesfromatheater 11-01-2005 05:51 PM

I'm not fussed that they don't play it...I'm just glad they still play all the goodens like Metrop pt.1 and Learning to Live.

Lord Abortion 11-01-2005 05:51 PM

Yeah, I'm sure they could, unless KevMo took out an injunction to prevent them of some sort.

scenesfromatheater 11-01-2005 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=Med57]:) Yeah, I'd say they're alternative/progressive rock, for want of a better genre. They're hard to classify really though. There are definitely elements of prog in their music, anyway.[/QUOTE]

Alternative/Progressive metal I'd say.

nowitzki 11-01-2005 06:19 PM

They're definitely progressive at times, I couldn't understand all of the points on that list.

Aaron 11-01-2005 06:43 PM

i think they're talented guys, but the effort and talent could make better music. i dont like the songs, only the technical ability.

GenuineImitation 11-01-2005 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=aaron1]i think they're talented guys, but the effort and talent could make better music. i dont like the songs, only the technical ability.[/QUOTE]

What songs have you heard. Im not questioning your judgment, I just want to know what songs you have heard.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 04:46 AM

I have a few Tool albums. The only songs I listen to offen are Stinkfist and Schism.

Aaron 11-02-2005 05:16 AM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]What songs have you heard. Im not questioning your judgment, I just want to know what songs you have heard.[/QUOTE]

i've only had a chance to listen to metropolis II and watched the portnoy DVD. is it they're less accessable stuff? it just didn't click with me i guess

beaNN 11-02-2005 06:58 AM

I've got scenes from a memory which I really like but is it just me or is Train Of Thought and the new one really dull albums? I just find Train Of Thought really boring.

dUSK 11-02-2005 07:15 AM

I don't listen to Octavium too often for that reason, but I love Train Of Thought. I can't really explain why, because it's opinion based, but I just don't find it boring. The only problem with it is that sometimes it seems they are more concerned with showing off technical ability than writing a good song, but I can live with that.

Do you like the older albums like Awake?

nowitzki 11-02-2005 07:46 AM

[QUOTE=aaron1]i've only had a chance to listen to metropolis II and watched the portnoy DVD. is it they're less accessable stuff? it just didn't click with me i guess[/QUOTE]

You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.

[QUOTE=beaNN]I've got scenes from a memory which I really like but is it just me or is Train Of Thought and the new one really dull albums? I just find Train Of Thought really boring.[/QUOTE]

I don't find ToT boring whatsoever, I think its an amazing album. But it is far less varied than all the others.

You should get Images & Words :thumb:

Lord Abortion 11-02-2005 07:50 AM

The haunting riffs that introduce alot of the ToT songs are brilliant, such as the Honour thy father one

dUSK 11-02-2005 07:52 AM

The intro to As I Am is excellent as well. In fact, that album as a whole just seems a lot darker/heavier than their other works.

nowitzki 11-02-2005 08:48 AM

Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 10:20 AM

YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......that's one quality scream. Never knew he could do it that well.:lol:

red barchetta 11-02-2005 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.[/QUOTE]
thats the highlight of the whole cd :thumb:

Triangle 11-02-2005 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......that's one quality scream. Never knew he could do it that well.:lol:[/QUOTE]
hehe, awesome. I love that part.

I laugh when their old singer attempts to pull it off on the album and fails.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 11:23 AM

Where abouts is it in the studio version??

Shred Danson 11-02-2005 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]The intro to As I Am is excellent as well. In fact, that album as a whole just seems a lot darker/heavier than their other works.[/QUOTE]

Yes indeed..."Endless Sacrifice" was a great one, too...it kinda reminded me of a prog version of "Sanitarium".

Ad Absurdum 11-02-2005 11:42 AM

[quote=Med57]:) Yeah, I'd say they're alternative/progressive rock, for want of a better genre. They're hard to classify really though. There are definitely elements of prog in their music, anyway.

I'm pretty sure that [I]Space Dye Vest [/I]hasn't been played live only as a gesture to Kevin Moore, as it's pretty much his song. I don't think there are any legal reasons why they couldn't play it live, if they really wanted to. The band would own the rights to it, I'd imagine.[/quote]
They definately have prog elements. I think that the comment saying they aren't was tongue-in-cheek, saying that they aren't prog because they don't have long solos etc. They have long songs, concept albums and strange time signatures which are defining characteristics of a prog band in my opinion.

bwnstl 11-02-2005 11:50 AM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.[/QUOTE]

Could someone possibly YSI that album to me?
email is [email]bjwumr@gmail.com[/email] if someone would be so kind. :)

beaNN 11-02-2005 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.



I don't find ToT boring whatsoever, I think its an amazing album. But it is far less varied than all the others.

You should get Images & Words :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Yea, i've got it but I am shamed to say that i've not really listened to it!

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]That can't be right, it's a Dream Theater song, it's just the band's desicion not to play it.[/QUOTE]
Kevin Moore wrote and performed all of it except a vocal track. If you look at the Awake CD cover, it's under a different publisher and Kevin owns the rights.
[url]http://www.mikeportnoy.com/about/mpfaq/showquestion.asp?menu=about&faq=1&fldAuto=382[/url]
Mike Portnoy's statement about the live performance of SDV.
[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]The haunting riffs that introduce alot of the ToT songs are brilliant, such as the Honour thy father one[/QUOTE]
The intros to Stream of Consciousness and In The Name Of God are two of the most haunting guitar riffs I've ever heard.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 02:22 PM

I love SOC only when Vacant is played before. It creates an incredible atmosphere...then SOC just comes in with the heavy stuff.

3FingeredHoek 11-02-2005 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl]Could someone possibly YSI that album to me?
email is [email]bjwumr@gmail.com[/email] if someone would be so kind. :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah me too please, [email]esandy24@hotmail.com[/email].

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]I love SOC only when Vacant is played before. It creates an incredible atmosphere...then SOC just comes in with the heavy stuff.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's a brilliant continuation and progression on the themes presented in Vacant.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]Yeah, it's a brilliant continuation and progression on the themes presented in Vacant.[/QUOTE]

To put it intelligently.:thumb:

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:23 PM

I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.

scenesfromatheater 11-02-2005 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.[/QUOTE]

My music teacher say I'm the best guitarist he's ever had in his class. And he's been teaching for about 10 years.

shamed-angel 11-02-2005 04:27 PM

Well... isn't that sweet. I can't play guitar very well, but I've been playing bass for a good 5 years. How long have you been playing?

I could play the Metropolis tapping solo when I was 12... :upset:


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