Something wicked this way comes is a good one to get next. It has the melodic stuff you talked about but is a bit darker. Their latest album has grown on me latly,The glorious burden, it has a different vocalist on it so it might take a bit getting used to after Matt Barlow but he is good too.

[QUOTE=ChickenMcFicken]I doubt any of you remember me, it's been a good year or more since I last actively posted in R&M, but I'm back from the depths of the guitar forum to look for some suggestions.
I listen to mostly classic rock, but I'd like to get into some more metal. Now when I'm not listening to classic rock,blues, etc. I've got a pretty narrow group of bands that I listen to. I'll listen to early-mid 90's AFI (I know it's not metal, just giving more of my likes), about up to The Art of Drowning. I'm a decent System fan, but much more of their earlier stuff. (nu-metal, but I'm working my way up). I'm a decent fan of Dream Theater and Trans-Siberian Orchestra when it comes to prog-influenced metal. And for real metal I pretty much only listen to [URL="http://www.disillusion.de/"]Disillusion[/URL]. I don't know how many of you have heard of them, so I linked the band site.
I usually am not a fan of the ol' cookie monster vocals, but the same goes for high pitched screamers such as those found on dream theater and the likes. I'm getting better with cookie monsters (see Disilluison), but would like if they're kept to a minimum.
Thanks a lot. I'll edit in anything more I think of.

Also, I use Rhapsody from listen.com for streaming music, so if you know if bands do or don't allow their music to be streamed, that would be a plus. If not, I can still try sound clips from CD store websites and band web sites.[/QUOTE]


For some metal:
Alchemist-progressive metal with some more "rocky" riffing mixed with some "thrashy" riffing;they use a lot of keyboard sounds and have thrashish yelling vocals with some singing too
[url]http://www.alchemist.com.au/html/audio.htm[/url] <---some mp3 samples

Chalice-Doomy gothic metal; A rather unknown band but you can find them at some online music shops. I really like them because they actually put songwriting and riffs to match the vocals, rather than hide behind them.
[url]http://www.chalice.mu/liaising_pandora.mp3[/url]
[url]http://www.chalice.mu/static.mp3[/url]
[url]http://www.chalice.mu/child_of_the_matador.mp3[/url]

Sikth-kind of like SOAD if they were a legit metal band with some odd shifting riffs and vocals; I suggest the song "Hold My Finger" but the songs on their site are representative also. [url]http://www.sikth.com/[/url]

Into Eternity-power + melodic death? Hard to describe; they use a mix of vocals(lower growl, shierk, melodic power metal); though the harsh vocals aren't so bad for beginners, I was fine with them even when I didn't like harsh vocals. There are a few mp3s to download here [url]http://www.intoeternity.net/disc.php[/url]

While Heaven Wept-progressive doom with quite melodic vocals [url]http://music.download.com/whw/3600-8659_32-100074696.html?tag=listing_song_artist[/url]

and....

Atheist-progressive death metal; very awsome stuff, the vocals aren't overly harsh and they have songs in which you can find something new with each listen. Also, each album has its own unique flavor:
from Piece of Time(thrashier)
[url]http://www.unheardonline.com/audio/Atheist%20-%20%20I%20Deny.mp3[/url]
from Unquestionable Presence(crazier riff changes, more deathy)
[url]http://shop.relapse.com/content/downloads.aspx?MediaTypeID=2[/url] (scroll down a bit)
from Elements (less crazy riff changes but with a jazzier sound)
[url]http://www.unheardonline.com/audio/07-Mineral.mp3[/url]


I hope you can find something in this post to your liking. I would be interested to know what you think.

Thanks a lot. I got a lot of paper writing to do today, so I'll definitely check some of it (if not all) out.

So far I've listened to Alchemist, and had mixed feelings. It's pretty good, I just don't know if I'd go and buy it. Just doesn't have that click, but I've only lisened to the songs once, so they may grow on me.

If anyone knows similar bands to Disillusion (I ran a search, didn't get anything really). They are a good 75+% of the metal I listen to now (if not more), so that would be cool.

I really apriciate(sp) that list, and the fact that you put samples for me.

The Chalice is pretty good too, a bit more what I'd listen too, I think. I'm not too sure what to think about the vocals though. Usually that kinda vocals would put me off, but I'm just not sure yet. I liked the flute, or flute effect, in the first song. I'm a sucker for the flute (Jethro Tull tomarrow!)

can someone some good shredders

and some good jason becker songs

[QUOTE=ChickenMcFicken]
Thanks a lot. I got a lot of paper writing to do today, so I'll definitely check some of it (if not all) out.

So far I've listened to Alchemist, and had mixed feelings. It's pretty good, I just don't know if I'd go and buy it. Just doesn't have that click, but I've only lisened to the songs once, so they may grow on me.

If anyone knows similar bands to Disillusion (I ran a search, didn't get anything really). They are a good 75+% of the metal I listen to now (if not more), so that would be cool.

I really apriciate(sp) that list, and the fact that you put samples for me.

The Chalice is pretty good too, a bit more what I'd listen too, I think. I'm not too sure what to think about the vocals though. Usually that kinda vocals would put me off, but I'm just not sure yet. I liked the flute, or flute effect, in the first song. I'm a sucker for the flute (Jethro Tull tomarrow!)[/QUOTE]

I just listened to Disillusion. They're pretty good, for a start. Anyway, based on listening to them, the first band that came to mind was Winds. That may well just because of the heavy incorporation of classical bits into the first Disillusion song I heard, so I don't think it's a perfect recommendation. Worth checking out, though. I couldn't find any handy mp3s, but here's their site if you want to do some looking of your own: [url]http://www.winds.ws/index2.php[/url]

Second, I recommend Theory in Practice. Death metal, but the vocals in particular are similar to the harsher vocals in Disillusion; not quite growling in the same deep way as many death metal bands, but slightly rasping. And their music is just fantastic, with an unusual emphasis on keyboards for a death metal band. MP3s;

[url]http://hem.passagen.se/theory/Colonizing%20The%20Sun.mp3[/url]
[url]http://hem.passagen.se/theory/Conspiracy%20in%20Cloning.mp3[/url]

There are several more available at their [url=http://www.theoryinpractice.cjb.net/]official site[/url]; I just picked my favourites offhand.

I'd second Bryan's Atheist recommendation; they're highly technical, jazz fusion-influenced death metal which I think you might like. The vocals always brought to mind a slight harsher Dave Mustaine for me, so you should be fine with them. Unfortunately their very best songs don't seem to be available for free download.

Let us know feedback on what we recommend, so the recommendations can be further honed.

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]can someone some good shredders

and some good jason becker songs[/QUOTE]
Becker stuffs to check out...

Cacophony - Concerto
Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony

Solo work:
Altitudes
Perpetual Burn
Air
Images
End of the Beginning
Serrana
24th Caprice (Pagannini cover)

For shredders... Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Herman Li (Dragonforce), Jeff Loomis (Nevermore), Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr. Big)

Adding some to the list above:
John Petrucci
Marc Rizzo
Ynwgie Malmsteen

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Becker stuffs to check out...

Cacophony - Concerto
Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony

Solo work:
Altitudes
Perpetual Burn
Air
Images
End of the Beginning
Serrana
24th Caprice (Pagannini cover)

For shredders... Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Herman Li (Dragonforce), Jeff Loomis (Nevermore)[/QUOTE]
herman li does instrumental? thats kinda what im looking for i want to show my teacher a mark tremonti instrumental cause hes a big paul gilbert fan so i think he'll like it so i thought instead of just putting the one song on there ill make a CD of all crazy instrumental stuff, right now i got

[B][U]Steve's [/U][/B]
Bad Horsie
Building the Church
For The Love Of God

[B][U]Mark Tremonti[/U][/B]
Ahavo Rabo Taco Salad

[B][U]Yngwie Malmsteen[/U][/B]
Black Star
Far Beyond The Sun
5

[U][B]Paul Gilbert[/B][/U]
Scarified

[B][U]Jeff Loomis[/U][/B]
The Holocaust Of Thought

im trying to think of more shred instrumentals....

[QUOTE=Txus]Adding some to the list above:
John Petrucci
Marc Rizzo
Ynwgie Malmsteen[/QUOTE]
i cant find any marc.....or instrumental DT stuff.

Thanks bartender too. Winds is actually on rhapsody (the only one out of both lists). I think the classical influence is part of why I like Disillusion. The first music I actually started listening to on my own (not just listening to whatever is on) was classical, so I think that may have some subconcious influence even though I can't listen to it for more than 5 minutes now.

I've listened to Sikth a bit, and I wasn't really in the mood for it, so I didn't really give it much of a chance. Into eternity, though, of the 4 I've listened to it seems like it's the best fit for me (I'm not all the way through them). Just kinda clicked. I'm looking forward to Atheist now too.

The Atheist was kind of a let down, it just didn't seem to fit. Not that I didn't like it, I just didn't really like it a whole lot either.

While Heaven Slept was pretty good too. Definitely on the re-listen list.

Hey guys I was wondering if you could help me find some heavy metal/hard rock in French. I barely find anything on google.

Must:

-have lyrics in French
-no growling/screaming crazy stuff
-be good


Anybody know some bands? Also, if it's possible to download songs, please mention it.

Try Metal-Archives, and look at the reviews for each band.

The only French metal bands I know are extreme metal, which is what you don't want.

I'm taking suggestions for some good Sting/The Police songs. The more technical, the better.

I already have Message In A Bottle, Roxanne, Shape Of My Heart and Straight To My Heart

After one listen through everything I think Into Eternity may be my favorite. Of course, that's just one listen, things can certainly change. Thanks for the help :thumb:

Can someone recomend some armored saint? I like john bush's vocals but I don't know what to get first.

anyone no bands simlar to arch enemy

[I]Heartwork[/I]-era Carcass
Arghoslent - [I]Incorrigible Bigotry[/I]
Arsis - [I]A Diamond For Disease[/I]

[QUOTE=PrimalScream]Can someone recomend some armored saint? I like john bush's vocals but I don't know what to get first.[/QUOTE]

March of the Saint is probably their most solid album.

[QUOTE=ChickenMcFicken]After one listen through everything I think Into Eternity may be my favorite. Of course, that's just one listen, things can certainly change. Thanks for the help :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you found something; I tried to hit some different sounds.


edit: Wow, I just remembered this band. [I]Unexpect[/I] [url]http://www.unexpect.com[/url] I've only heard one song but it sounds like maybe something you would like.
[url]http://www.unexpect.com/novae.mp3[/url]

This might be sort of broad, but I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of some good metal or music in general with really good clean vocal work, preferrably not power metal (I love power metal, but that style of singing is getting old). I know it's broad, but it's a challenge I hope you guys are up for...thanks in advance.

If you like good vocals with lots of emotion and power, get into the Barlow years of Iced Earth. Actualy any Iced Earth has good vocals.

Some ppl say they are power metal and others say there more thrashy.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]If you like good vocals with lots of emotion and power, get into the Barlow years of Iced Earth. Actualy any Iced Earth has good vocals.

Some ppl say they are power metal and others say there more thrashy.[/QUOTE]

I can't seem to get into Iced Earth, really, but thanks

[QUOTE=Med57]Too broad...I could recommend you some very good alternative/prog/indie stuff, but I don't know if you'd like it at all. Going for some simple alternative style rock, try Dredg, The Wildhearts, Muse, Faith No More, and The Who. But they're pretty random picks, to be honest.[/QUOTE]

I'm not much of a Who fan and I listen to the others already, except Wildhearts, who I'll check out. Thanks anyways guys.

Can someone recommend me some good Jazz Metal? I once heard that Atheist was Jazz Metal...

And can someone send me the link to the Monthly Metal Competition thing, the Jazz Metal one?

Somebody please reccomend something similar to the gothy/depressing/emo vibe on this song

Katatonia-Evidence

Song, band or album recomendations would be awsome.

Link to song here
[url]http://musica.mustdie.ru/en/band/katatonia/7160/[/url]


EDIT please don't mention Opeth

[QUOTE=king_of_terrors]Can someone recommend me some good Jazz Metal? I once heard that Atheist was Jazz Metal...

And can someone send me the link to the Monthly Metal Competition thing, the Jazz Metal one?[/QUOTE]
Try Cynic. They only have one album, called[I]Focus[/I].

That link you're looking for should be in the rules thread.

Thank ye Mr 57, I shall have a listen.

[QUOTE=Fullysick metal man]Somebody please reccomend something similar to the gothy/depressing/emo vibe on this song

Katatonia-Evidence

Song, band or album recomendations would be awsome.

Link to song here
[url]http://musica.mustdie.ru/en/band/katatonia/7160/[/url][/QUOTE]
That song instantly reminded me of Babylon Zoo - Spaceman
Do you know Anathema? [url=http://anathema.rockmetal.art.pl/mp3/anathema-are_you_there.mp3]Are You There? (mp3)[/url]. This song is softer with less of a beat, but the band ranges from very ambient to doom metal. Panic, Deep and Judgement have much more beat like that Katatonoa song. Also try their songs Inner Silence, Radiance, Shroud Of Frost, A Fine Day To Exit, Parisienne Moonlight and Emotional Winter for all sorts of emo/depresso/gotho stuff

[QUOTE=blueyxd]Thank ye Mr 57, I shall have a listen.

Do you know Anathema? [url=http://anathema.rockmetal.art.pl/mp3/anathema-are_you_there.mp3]Are You There? (mp3)[/url]. This song is softer with less of a beat, but the band ranges from very ambient to doom metal. Panic, Deep and Judgement have much more beat like that Katatonoa song. Also try their songs Inner Silence, Radiance, Shroud Of Frost, A Fine Day To Exit, Parisienne Moonlight and Emotional Winter for all sorts of emo/depresso/gotho stuff[/QUOTE]

Anathema will do quite nicely

what album do you thnk best defines their sound?

[QUOTE=Med57]Yeah, Cynic are the most obvious bet. Try Planet X, Ephel Duath and Gordian Knot if you're into that sort of thing as well. Atheist are great, if you've never heard them before. [B][U]I can't seem to find the link to the jazz metal competition...are you sure it was a category[/U][/B]?[/QUOTE]


Yes, see, this was quoted from the Death Metal Compotition one.

[QUOTE=The Death Metal Compotition Thread, First Post.]Pick any genre, save for the following:

- Black metal
- Melodic Death metal
- Progressive metal
- [B][U]Jazz metal[/U][/B]
- Death metal[/Quote]


Those are the genres' the winners could [U]not[/U] pick for the next Metal Compotition Thread Genre.

[QUOTE=Fullysick metal man]Anathema will do quite nicely

what album do you thnk best defines their sound?[/QUOTE]
I see many people say Judgement.. I haven't heard it all, so I don't know. It's about the middle album on their timeline. Anyway, it's bound to be good.
The Silent Engima and anything before that is doom metal if you're interested.

Someone please tell me some bands to take a listen to. Anything you feel is a must listen to, keep in mind I dont like death metal and the likes. Im mostly into prog rock and soft rockish stuff, and a little metal. Examples are dredge and porcupine tree. I like coheed as well but this might be the wrong place to ask for similar bands.

Thanks.

symphony x
racer x
dream theatre
rush

progressive/virtuoso metal