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hethamulburton 07-06-2005 10:37 PM

But you can always argue that this song has better axe work, or this song has better drums, or vocals. It's how you look at it, if I took a stand point of," Old McDonald," was the greatest song ever, and truely believed it, why would listening to a band make me change my mind.

Endless Obsession 07-06-2005 10:37 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Do you judge bands by how they act onstage?

Plus I own almost all of the LoG albums. I have read their lyrics and see nothing special about them.[/QUOTE]

Im saying nobody did anything great with their instruments yesterday, the solos were mediocre, drums and guitar, and keyboards and bass didnt solo.

hethamulburton 07-06-2005 10:40 PM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]What a spammerific new member... what songs do you base your opinion on hethamul? Also I suggest you delete some of your useless posts before a mod sees the excessiveness of them.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I'm only new to the forums, I have a different screen name for the actual site itself.

RouteOne 07-06-2005 10:40 PM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]Im saying nobody did anything great with their instruments yesterday, the solos were mediocre, drums and guitar, and keyboards and bass didnt solo.[/QUOTE]
So you think they have to do some stupid moves with their instruments to be a talented band? if so, you're a fool. It's about the music. Plus, Opeth has many famous solos but you wouldn't know about them because you don't listen to them.

Lateralias 07-06-2005 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=hethamulburton]Actually, I'm only new to the forums, I have a different screen name for the actual site itself.[/QUOTE]

Kudos. Now delete your spam one page back please.

And R. Blythe, Opeth doesn't appeal to Harcore/Metalcore fans usually.. SotU is based around that genre.

Endless Obsession 07-06-2005 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]So you think they have to do some stupid moves with their instruments to be a talented band? if so, you're a fool. It's about the music. Plus, Opeth has many famous solos but you wouldn't know about them because you don't listen to them.[/QUOTE]

God you are dense. Im sayin they didnt impress me with their talent of the instrument they played. Buz doing 5 string sweeps for like 2 minutes straight was impressive, Chris Adlers drumming was impressive. Opeth, nothing was really impressive.

You dont have to start crying about it when someone comes and states that they dont like Opeths live show.

RouteOne 07-06-2005 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]God you are dense. Im sayin they didnt impress me with their talent of the instrument they played. Buz doing 5 string sweeps for like 2 minutes straight was impressive, Chris Adlers drumming was impressive. Opeth, nothing was really impressive.

You dont have to start crying about it when someone comes and states that they dont like Opeths live show.[/QUOTE]
I'm not crying about it. I'm simply trying to get it through your head that Opeth is very talented. You don't need to do 5 string sweeps to be talented.

Endless Obsession 07-06-2005 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]I'm not crying about it. I'm simply trying to get it through your head that Opeth is very talented. You don't need to do 5 string sweeps to be talented.[/QUOTE]

Tell me a song that has some of this great talent in it that I can download and see for myself.

RouteOne 07-06-2005 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]Tell me a song that has some of this great talent in it that I can download and see for myself.[/QUOTE]
In the mist she was standing
Black rose immortal (it's long though)
Deliverance

Dannyboy15 07-06-2005 10:54 PM

Listen to

bleak
Godhead's Lament
Dirge for November
Demons of the Fall
Windowpane
Blackwater Park
To bid you Farewell
Deliverance

RouteOne 07-06-2005 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=Dannyboy15]Listen to

bleak
Godhead's Lament
Dirge for November
Demons of the Fall
Windowpane
Blackwater Park
To bid you Farewell
Deliverance[/QUOTE]
Window pane is one of the best mello songs ever written.

bucket 07-06-2005 10:55 PM

[Quote]It's a matter of opinion, he can't prove it, nor can you or I. Face it no one can prove who is the better band, and no magazine countdowns don't count either. [/Quote]

[Quote] Actually buy some Opeth albums and LISTEN to Opeth's guitar work and READ their lyrics. You will quickly realize that they are a very talented band.[/Quote]

[Quote]But you can always argue that this song has better axe work, or this song has better drums, or vocals. It's how you look at it [/Quote]

[Quote]It's about the music [/Quote]

[Quote] You don't need to do 5 string sweeps to be talented[/Quote]

All truths.

hethamulburton 07-07-2005 12:11 AM

Well said. But I also believe that Blythe was right when he said bands should have good stage performances, if you pay top currency for it, then you should expect something that would blow your mind, and not as he says Opeth played, where he didn't like them on stage.

Cardboard Headgear 07-07-2005 02:24 AM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]Buz doing 5 string sweeps for like 2 minutes straight was impressive, Chris Adlers drumming was impressive. Opeth, nothing was really impressive.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they didnt do sweeping at the show, so they must not be able to do it at all. Opeth's riffs are far more complex and unorthodox than any of Lamb of God's, and Mikael and Peter are more than capable of mindlessly shredding, though they opt for writing solos instead of just going haywire on the guitar.

Det_Nosnip 07-07-2005 02:48 AM

Dear lord...we need "thread moderators" who can annihilate people at will. If you want to continue being an idiot....go for it. Don't do it here. If you don't like the band, then there's no point in posting in this thread.

Dannyboy15 07-07-2005 02:57 AM

Lamb of God
[url]http://d36.yousendit.com/C/071DJ2F71YMRM0C088FFAG71W0/LAMBOF3.mid[/url]

Opeth
[url]http://d36.yousendit.com/C/1XJ0S1QU5MNUA1K8A01VOH68MS/OPETH1.mid[/url]

Heres the midi files so you can hear all instruments in both songs and hear how they play their parts.

I think dicking around on stage and playing Lamb of God songs would be alot easier.

Slapping Penguin 07-07-2005 07:49 AM

[QUOTE]Are you done gawking at that site yet? [url]www.opeth.com[/url] Bio on Peter
So as you can see Metallica has had more of an impact than you have given them credit for. As for them being weird, they are Swedish, or from around there, and many people from that area are kind of weird, but only the metal bands, no one else there is like this. These Metal guys in that area think metal is fast guitar riffs that are monotonous and stay that way song after song. Now I've heard many bands of that region, many don't appeal to me, but some do, and it seems this is one that does not appeal to my taste in music, as it does the rest of you ladies.
My email is [email]hethamulburton@netscape.net[/email] if you'd like to continue this discussion at another time, or just give me a piece of your mind, which I feel, you all have the right to do, as it is America.
Now reply, don't spoil my fun.[/QUOTE]

I WANT TO KILL YOU. YOU ARE A COMPELTE UNEDUCATED TWAT. You call people when from scandiniva weird and I bet you have never met one of them in your life. I'm Australian and I am offended. Then you act like America owns this thread and its the only free country in the world and as if it founded democracy.

[QUOTE]you all have the right to do, as it is America[/QUOTE] Yeah sure fu[B]c[/B]k bucket.

YOUR JUST A GRADE A TOSSER. PUT YOUR **** IN A BLENDER AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR.

Now everyone else. Leave Randy alone you have missunderstood his posts. He is not saying Opeth is untalented its just their live shows are a bit boring to him. So what he likes an exciting show. YOU can not compare LoG to Opeth. Its like apples and oranges. Both tast good but completely different. When I stick Opeth I listen to Opeth, enjoying their style. When I listen to Lamb I enjoy the music they offer.

Now Randy before you say anything more about their music listen to Black Rose Immortal if imppresive solos and stuff is what you like, then this has it. Htye play some very cool and fast solos.

Endless Obsession 07-07-2005 08:16 AM

[QUOTE=Dannyboy15]Lamb of God
[url]http://d36.yousendit.com/C/071DJ2F71YMRM0C088FFAG71W0/LAMBOF3.mid[/url]

Opeth
[url]http://d36.yousendit.com/C/1XJ0S1QU5MNUA1K8A01VOH68MS/OPETH1.mid[/url]

Heres the midi files so you can hear all instruments in both songs and hear how they play their parts.

I think dicking around on stage and playing Lamb of God songs would be alot easier.[/QUOTE]

Those links are broken.

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]Now Randy before you say anything more about their music listen to Black Rose Immortal if imppresive solos and stuff is what you like, then this has it. Htye play some very cool and fast solos.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.

hethamulburton 07-07-2005 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]I WANT TO KILL YOU. YOU ARE A COMPELTE UNEDUCATED TWAT. You call people when from scandiniva weird and I bet you have never met one of them in your life. I'm Australian and I am offended. Then you act like America owns this thread and its the only free country in the world and as if it founded democracy.

Yeah sure fu[B]c[/B]k bucket.

YOUR JUST A GRADE A TOSSER. PUT YOUR **** IN A BLENDER AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR.

Now everyone else. Leave Randy alone you have missunderstood his posts. He is not saying Opeth is untalented its just their live shows are a bit boring to him. So what he likes an exciting show. YOU can not compare LoG to Opeth. Its like apples and oranges. Both tast good but completely different. When I stick Opeth I listen to Opeth, enjoying their style. When I listen to Lamb I enjoy the music they offer.

Now Randy before you say anything more about their music listen to Black Rose Immortal if imppresive solos and stuff is what you like, then this has it. Htye play some very cool and fast solos.[/QUOTE]



I find you funny, you bleep out one curse but say another. Aussies are weird too, hahaha.
Opeth just must be a boring live band, to Blythe, lets leave it at that.

Lateralias 07-07-2005 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]
Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.[/QUOTE]

Well no shi[I]t[/I], this the Opeth thread right? Don't bring your metalcore band and argument in here. So what if you feel threatened by another metal band, it doesn't mean you have to trigger a very poor argument.

Now moving on... what is everyones favorite Opeth song to play? I am personally having lots of fun with Benighted, I can't get enough of Mikael's acoustic work. :)

Slapping Penguin 07-07-2005 06:03 PM

GODHEAD'S LAMENT and DEMON OF THE FALL

Hey look everybody my penguin now wears Opeth shirts look lookie.

[QUOTE]Yeah, but someone came in here and said "Opeth is the only talented band on that tour." Thats so unbelievably ignorant that I had to start an argument.[/QUOTE]

I understand what you mean. I love Opeth but I do agree to act like they are the only talented band is silly. Just remeber espically in "Offical" threads people can get over zealous about their faviroutie band.

Endless Obsession 07-07-2005 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]I understand what you mean. I love Opeth but I do agree to act like they are the only talented band is silly. Just remeber espically in "Offical" threads people can get over zealous about their faviroutie band.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but its not like I just came in here and said "Opeth sucks" and thats it. I said that i dont like their live show, and that they arent the most talented band ever people need to understand that in here.

Then I had to defend my beloved Unearth and Lamb of God. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with Opeth's music, its just their live isnt for me.

Kaiwaz 07-07-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]Yeah but its not like I just came in here and said "Opeth sucks" and thats it. I said that i dont like their live show, and that they arent the most talented band ever people need to understand that in here.

Then I had to defend my beloved Unearth and Lamb of God. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with Opeth's music, its just their live isnt for me.[/QUOTE]



That's cool. 1st amendment. I saw them live and it was ungodly. They sounded perfect - Pry the best concert I have ever been to, I have been to quite a few.

I will defend this thread by saying - Don't come in here with that negative attitude cause you dislike their Live Show. And please don't post in here if you have some lame excuse to post your fav Metal Core bands. If you're about Moshing to random screams and sounds, then yes, those bands are for you. So take your ''Pride'' and go make a '' I like to mosh '' thread.













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Daven 07-07-2005 07:38 PM

good reply. but because your fav. band is opeth it doesnt means the other bands suck because they're not like Opeth

Cain 07-07-2005 07:42 PM

Yeah, that's pretty stupid. To love Opeth because of how different they sound and then complain because no one else sounds like them.

People are entitled to their opinions and I'm all for less fanboys in ANY official thread. Threads are for discussion, and in this one I see many many more posts dealing with what the favorite Opeth song of the moment is for all the regular users rather than any real criticism or discussion about an aspect of the band. Whenever I criticize Morningrise, for instance, it tends to be mostly dismissed or ignored, and nothing ever gets talked about except what an awesome song "The Drapery Falls" is. I haven't seen a stimulating discussion in here in a long time, I'm sorry to say.

No hard feelings, everyone, but don't tell a person to get out of the Opeth thread because they don't like Opeth. It does nothing except hinder real debate and discussion.

Daven 07-07-2005 07:43 PM

i think he said that mostly because he is a fan boy

funk_metalguitarist 07-07-2005 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=R. Blythe]Yeah but its not like I just came in here and said "Opeth sucks" and thats it. I said that i dont like their live show, and that they arent the most talented band ever people need to understand that in here.

Then I had to defend my beloved Unearth and Lamb of God. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with Opeth's music, its just their live isnt for me.[/QUOTE]

Well you obviously don't appreciate Opeth's music enough. If you appreciate their music, you would've loved their show.

Daven 07-07-2005 07:47 PM

123

Cain 07-07-2005 07:51 PM

Um, that goes without saying. :rolleyes:

Slapping Penguin 07-07-2005 08:24 PM

Not nesscarsly for him they could have had a really shoddy show.

PS: I think my penguin should be the offical Opeth mascot as Eddie is for Maiden. :naughty:


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