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Spaceman Spiff 06-05-2009 04:07 PM

Let the wheels burn
Let the wheels burn
Stack the tires to the neck
With a body inside

FunkMetalBass 06-05-2009 04:14 PM

[quote=BenJammin;17281175]Shocking.[/quote]

I know, right? God, I should have listened.

But if you look at cost effectiveness, I saved a lot of money - even with the added setup/nut file....so it's not a total loss by any means. I still love the bass.

[quote=gaslight;17281176]So how do those work, I just unscrew my current strap mount and screw the new one in instead and it's better?[/quote]

You have to drill the hole a bit wider. The straplok itself is recessed into the bass body, so none of it sticks out.


[quote=Jimbobntnr;17281177]did you pretty much just tell us that you went against the advice of everyone on this board and found that we were right? that's awesome.
who has two thumbs and is right?


This guy.
*points at self with both thumbs bitches.[/quote]

Do I condone the mistakes? Not at all. But they are only small things. Jonly, do you have a thrid thumb you can put up? Maybe one of those foam fingers that says "Jonly #1" on it?

FunkMetalBass 06-05-2009 04:19 PM

[quote=BenJammin;17281315]Haha, yep. Buddy of mine has some refin experience, so we're going to strip it and all that, and repaint it lake placid blue, and replace all of the cheap parts on it (mostly the tuners and the bridge). He's got a SD pickup that he'll give me to replace the stock one. :cool: I figure I can put it back together for about $75, and worst comes to worst, flip it for at least $100.

The fret job on it is actually really good, surprisingly, and the neck has a nice satin feel to it. With a little TLC, I think there's a decent guitar in there.[/quote]

What brand is it?

You might want to hold off on replacing any parts on it if it'll cost you more than $20. Unless you can find somebody that really likes it, I don't know that you'll even see $60 for it. No-name guitars have terrible resale.

BenJammin 06-05-2009 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17281367]What brand is it?

You might want to hold off on replacing any parts on it if it'll cost you more than $20. Unless you can find somebody that really likes it, I don't know that you'll even see $60 for it. No-name guitars have terrible resale.[/QUOTE]

Oh, you'd be surprised. ;)

It's a "First Act." The Walmart ones that usually go for at least $100.

FunkMetalBass 06-05-2009 04:35 PM

Floating in this
Cosmic jacu-
zzi we are like
Frogs oblivious

FunkMetalBass 06-05-2009 04:36 PM

[quote=BenJammin;17281378]Oh, you'd be surprised. ;)

It's a "First Act." The Walmart ones that usually go for at least $100.[/quote]

$100 resale?

I've never seen it happen. Same first act guitar has been on the AZ craigslist for $30 for the past 5 months and I laugh at it every time.

But if you can sell it for that much, power to ya, dude.

BenJammin 06-05-2009 10:03 PM

The market here is a bit different than your market.

EADGCF 06-05-2009 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17281161]
And I realized that the nut on my 8-string needs to be filed - that's why I can't lower the action on some strings.
[/QUOTE]

What does the nut have to do with your action?

Spaceman Spiff 06-06-2009 09:21 AM

Holla.

gaslight 06-06-2009 01:38 PM

I officially have destroyed any semblance of a sleeping pattern I once had.

fatbandit 06-06-2009 05:02 PM

oh my god.

soundguy tonight when i asked if he would mic my cab (i hate DI'd bass with such an intense passion) said 'i'd rather not - i don't like using microphones. they're not my thing'.

what the fu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]k is he doing as a sound engineer if he doesn't like microphones.

its a damn shame because its the biggest venue (excluding the arena) in the city for our style of music, and everytime we play there, he effs up our sound so so so badly. how is it even posible to get such a bad onstage mix?

and why do other peoples' cabs suck so badly?

gaslight 06-06-2009 05:11 PM

Really? I'm usually really happy to have my bass DI'd out of my head. I don't mind if they want to use a mic on the cab too but I trust my head's DI more than some clowns Behringer stage mics.

If he doesn't like microphones he's going to have a hard time doing the drum kits right. Good luck plugging a DI into a ride cymbal.

And my cab doesn't suck :p.

I know what you mean though, I hate playing gigs and seeing bands where the bassist has like some cheap GK head going into just a 4x10 or whatever and they don't even dial their sound up remotely well.

funkyhoney 06-06-2009 06:51 PM

Me gigging today with Behringer. HELLS YEAH!

Jaded 06-06-2009 10:18 PM

dude everyone uses a DI, what's the problem?



In case you guys were wondering what the best babymaking song was it's this:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhdcJ7K3XM[/url]



edit: why is linking such a b*tch now wtf took me like 4 tries to find the right tags

fatbandit 06-07-2009 07:11 AM

he was insistent on using his Behringer DI box, and not my amp's DI. either way, I hate DI. distortion sounds SO SO bad through it. that's why guitarists don't DI. i just don't see the point in like buying a nice amp head, and getting a nice cab, and having the tone dialled up so that it sounds nice through your head and cab, only to have that utterly destroyed by bypassing all of it and using a sucky DI signal, and all of your EQ removed, and loads of low end mud and boom added.

gaslight 06-07-2009 07:21 AM

My head's DI is switchable pre/post-EQ which is a big plus for it.

I always get this satisfied warm feeling when I see the sound guy walk up with a Behringer DI in his hand and realise he won't be using it on my things.

fatbandit 06-07-2009 09:18 AM

a lot of soundguys i have come across will only use their DI box, and not the DI from a head, even when it has one. I actually have my own active DI box, which they will also flatly refuse to use as well.

almost all heads with a DI will be pre/post EQ. But even coming out of a head post EQ isn't the same as coming from a speaker. there's no speaker emulation, and some speakers have different frequency response. the one i used had NO low end, for example, so i had to compensate by turning my bass control up. however, if that was going through my head's DI post-EQ, i would be sending too much bass to the desk.

basically the only guideline we have for how we sound is the soud coming straight at us from our own cab. so how are we supposed to give the soundguy an appropriate signal when we can't hear what he's even getting?

seriously DI is like the lamest thing ever.

after crap soundguys.

but the two usually go hand in hand.

gaslight 06-07-2009 10:05 AM

So good sound guys never DI anything? I dunno man.

fatbandit 06-07-2009 10:17 AM

No. But good soundguys would listen to the requests of a band and work with them, and be comfortable using microphones.

When we have good sound, we absolutely destroy. It makes everything easier to hear, you don't have to be watching your bandmates to know what is going on, you don't have to look at your hands, because you can actually hear what you're playing, you don't feel you need to constantly be aware of the fact that your carefully setup effects which would sound good mic'd through your own cab now sound gash through the DI and PA out front.

When we have bad sound, it makes it a crap show. We can't get into it, we can't play as well. Crowd go away less than impressed.

Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

gaslight 06-07-2009 10:19 AM

That's a better point.

But hell if he'll only spring for Behringer DI's I'd hate to see his microphones.

fatbandit 06-07-2009 10:21 AM

it makes no difference whether its a Behringer or something else. Unless they're spending BIG money on DI boxes, the difference between one passive DI and another is minimal for live use - they still do the exact same job. Its only when you get into active DIs that things change IMO.

Like I said, its the biggest club for this type of music in the city. And its a big city. Their equipment shouldn't be bad. I KNOW they have the mics for it. Hell, I'd be happy with a 57, y'know?

fatbandit 06-07-2009 10:26 AM

Same soundguy also asked at another gig we played at the venue, if I could not use my octave pedal, as it made everything in the room shake.

Uhm, yeah.

If it had been going through my head and cab, it would have tamed those frequencies, and sounded well, y'know, like it is supposed to. My rig isn't designed to run pedalboard to PA like that.

So again, if he'd just TRIED mic'ing it like I ask everytime we play for him, it might have not made him seem like such an idiot to me.

Buh.

gaslight 06-07-2009 10:35 AM

How come this guy has a regular job as a sound guy if he's this crap at it?

fatbandit 06-07-2009 10:54 AM

i find myself asking myself that.

gaslight 06-07-2009 11:09 AM

I've certainly had far more bad sound guys than good.

Moon Flavor 06-07-2009 11:16 AM

I've never met a good sound guy.

I remember back when I was in a ska band I played a show at one of the more renowned venues in the area with 3 other bands. The sound guy being such a huge pussyfart to all the bassists because we all had the same amp (ampeg ba115 lol) and "the bass isn't even important anyways"

Epidemechanical 06-07-2009 11:24 AM

lmao bassists never like the sound guy because quite frankly most live engineers have way more important things to deal with than caring about all the nuances of the self-important bass player's "super special ultra mega awesome tone"

im a singer

i dont hate any live engineers i know

Spaceman Spiff 06-07-2009 11:29 AM

I've hated sound guys at shows I've played because they've kept the vocals too low and made them inaudible.

Moon Flavor 06-07-2009 11:32 AM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17284044]lmao bassists never like the sound guy because quite frankly most live engineers have way more important things to deal with than caring about all the nuances of the self-important bass player's "super special ultra mega awesome tone"

im a singer

i dont hate any live engineers i know[/QUOTE]

Nah I'm not much of a tone freak but when I'm turned down to the point where nobody can hear me even if they try it kind of defeats the purpose of me being there

Epidemechanical 06-07-2009 11:32 AM

well i wont disagree that probably 90% of "live engineers" are inept and not capable but still i certainly wouldn't give a **** about the bassists tone

you're going DI, cry about it on stage while playing your pansy indie college dance rock dont waste my time


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