Thats typically the only time I call people out on religion is when they do that. Thats why I loved my philosophy class, I could make a argument against god in the middle of class, and it was A OK.

[QUOTE=repcak;15804772]And the other kind of persons just refers EVERYTHING they do, to relgion and god like my friend... i just fukking hate this.[/QUOTE]

True story. A friend of mine is Jewish, so she took a class on studying the Old Testament for a distribution requirement. She figured she already had to know this stuff to be a Jew, this should be easy.

It was. But one of her classmates was totally bat-sh[size=2]i[/size]t. This crazy bitch said that everything in the Old Testament was a prophecy of Jesus. She then proceeded to apply the technique most of us do to find sexual innuendo in conversations to the damn Bible, except instead of sex, she was looking for Jesus.

The professor gave her points for creativity, but clearly thought that she was child-eatingly insane.

You should tell her how you feel man. Say to her that when she always talks to you about god it makes you feel uncomfortable and you would prefer it if she would keep her beliefs to herself, otherwise you will find it difficult to be her friend.

haha, that's so ****ed up man.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15804793]Thats typically the only time I call people out on religion is when they do that. Thats why I loved my philosophy class, I could make a argument against god in the middle of class, and it was A OK.[/QUOTE]

you won't believe it, but guess what the one girl is studying?!

:lol:

exactly, you got it :smash:

'sup 5k.

:).

[QUOTE=repcak;15804804]you won't believe it, but guess what the one girl is studying?!

:lol:

exactly, you got it :smash:[/QUOTE]

The thing about idk how you take a logic based course like that then continue to believe the Judeo-Christian god. Their idea of god is a mess of contradictions and logical fallacy.

the point is (how i see it):

you cannot proof god
you cannot deny him that he doesn't exist/or you cannot proof the not-existance of god

(THATS everything what philosophy CAN say)

and for me thats the reason why god is irrational for me.

you can believe in aliens... there are till now no real proofs that there are aliens, but you cannot proof that they aren't any.

Why does god require tithing is what i was always against

[QUOTE=big80smullet;15804832]Why does god require tithing is what i was always against[/QUOTE]

well, this would be another part of the story;
i think we should distinguish between religions instutions (like the church who is doing it still and done it excessive in the middle ages) and the debate about god in general.

[QUOTE=repcak;15804830]the point is (how i see it):

you cannot proof god
you cannot deny him that he doesn't exist/or you cannot proof the not-existance of god

(THATS everything what philosophy CAN say)

and for me thats the reason why god is irrational for me.

you can believe in aliens... there are till now no real proofs that there are aliens, but you cannot proof that they aren't any.[/QUOTE]

Whenever Christians give me the argument about how I can't disprove god, I say the same thing about werewolves.

i think the main difference is werewolves are ****ing sweet

[QUOTE=big80smullet;15804864]i think the main difference is werewolves are ****ing sweet[/QUOTE]

Also in that werewolves are real. Just look at Robin Williams!

[QUOTE=big80smullet;15804832]Why does god require tithing is what i was always against[/QUOTE]

to protect the institutions of god

[QUOTE=Steerpike;15804858]Whenever Christians give me the argument about how I can't disprove god, I say the same thing about werewolves.[/QUOTE]

:lol:
you're so right... you can say that with everything: vampire, werwolfs, do you guys know the golden teapot?

i am a believer of the golden teapot!
its out in the space, but its so small that you cannot proof it! it gives me magical abilities! try to proof thats there is no golden teapot between earth and mars :smash:

i think there has to be a wiki article about it... i will search it... i love this idea :p

Why cant he use his god powers. It just seems to me to be a catch22 situation. We need your money so we can "outreach" and get more people in church so we can get their moeny etc

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15802033]Yeah it was pretty sweet. I made my friend come in with me to the store, since I had four ziplock bands of change and it was quite embarrassing[/QUOTE]

greatest post in history

damn... forget, it i still have to search it - wrong article

The thing about god is that he is an assertion made by theists. if you want god to be the metaphysical and epistemological answer, then you better have a damn good argument as to why. I'm sick of people using the the unprovability of god as a cop out to an argument.

While I agree he is unprovable, I don't use him as the cornerstone to my belief system.

God is unprovable. Therefore he must exist.

[QUOTE=guitrguy;15804931]The thing about god is that he is an assertion made by theists. if you want god to be the metaphysical and epistemological answer, then you better have a damn good argument as to why. I'm sick of people using the the unprovability of god as a cop out to an argument.

While I agree he is unprovable, I don't use him as the cornerstone to my belief system.[/QUOTE]

i don't really understood the first part... but i'm not sure.
so they (the theist) say that if you believe in god, you have to give an answer why he should be existing?


btw. i found the teapot article
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot[/url]
[QUOTE]If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

[/QUOTE]

i believe in the teapot. I want some of its tiny tea

The band God is pretty good btw, everyone should check them out, especially the album called Possession.

It features Justin Broadrick for all of you Jesu/Godflesh whores :)

NP: RAein - She Wears My Blood

[QUOTE=big80smullet;15804951]i believe in the teapot. I want some of its tiny tea[/QUOTE]

or the pink, invisible unicorn... :cool:

[QUOTE=repcak;15804943]i don't really understood the first part... but i'm not sure.
so they (the theist) say that if you believe in god, you have to give an answer why he should be existing?[/QUOTE]
The theists says that god exists and is the arbiter of all, yet they decline for the most part to provide an argument supporting the existence of god. They are also the first, typically, to cop-out of the argument by using the provability argument. Really, you shouldn't base your life on a unverified idea.

[QUOTE]btw. i found the teapot article
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot[/url][/QUOTE]

Bertrand Rusell is awesome btw. He is the name sake of my alt.

HIs essay [I]Why I Am Not a Christian[/I] is pure gold

I'm out for the day guys, later!

ah ok thanks!

in german there are two terms: theismus and deismus, but i think you meant the last one. they say that the universe has been created by god but god doesn't influence our life and you cannot proof him.

bye Txus!

I'm pretty content with being my own saviour.

I just finished the outline for my geek movie. This is going to be a f[size=2]u[/size]cking blast to shoot!

I've got people for most of my main characters, I just need to put up some ads on Craigslist as soon as the script is finished for extras and a couple of supporting cast. I have a lot of the sets and props I need already, so I can keep the budget nice and low.

[QUOTE=repcak;15804984]ah ok thanks!

in german there are two terms: theismus and deismus, but i think you meant the last one. they say that the universe has been created by god but god doesn't influence our life and you cannot proof him.

bye Txus![/QUOTE]

The English word is deist. Deists are A OK in my book.