yeah AZ has good solo **** too

none of his solo **** even came close to his one verse on illmatic its good stuff though

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17747037]No they don't. They're too far up MF Doom's *** to listen to more than a few Nas cuts here and there.[/QUOTE]

lolwut

white hipsters are like the reason nas is still somewhat relevant

[QUOTE]nas' rapping on illmatic is about as par for the course as it comes but like i said his voice + the production and overall feel of the album is better than anything thats ever been put out[/QUOTE]looool , Nas' rapping on Illmatic was way ahead of it's time. Hardly anyone was doing back to back internal rhyming and multi-syllabics like that in 1994.

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17747048]looool , Nas' rapping on Illmatic was way ahead of it's time. Hardly anyone was doing back to back internal rhyming and multi-syllabics like that in 1994.[/QUOTE]

wu-tang clan
kool g rap
rakim
et al

nas rapping is awful but yeah he has some good stuff.

far from the best rapper

[QUOTE=illmitch;17747050]wu-tang clan
kool g rap
rakim
et al[/QUOTE]

rakim certainly. Wu-tang is utterly irrelevant here.

pharoahe monch was a better rapper than nas in 1994

he's a better rapper than nas in 2009

i mean if we're talking "back to back internal rhyming and multi-syllabics"

That matter will have to be investigated.

let it be noticed that I said "hardly anyone" which means that I was refering to the majority of rappers, not the entirety. The average rapper still to this day hasn't caught up with Illmatic.

"I grew up on the crime side, the New York times side, stayin' alive was no jive
Had second hands, moms bounced on old mans, so then I moved to Shaolin land
A young youth, yo, rockin the gold tooth, 'Lo goose,
Only time I begin to G off was drug loot"

hella multisyllabics and internal rhyming...

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17747055]pharoahe monch was a better rapper than nas in 1994

he's a better rapper than nas in 2009

i mean if we're talking "back to back internal rhyming and multi-syllabics"[/QUOTE]

quality post

however, pharoahe monch is nerd rap omg

[IMG]http://comicrelated.com/graphics/RandyMachoManSavage_BeAMan.jpg[/IMG]

one of the best rappers ever

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17747056]That matter will have to be investigated.[/QUOTE]

If you're referring to me, or Pharoahe Monch, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUn1u9SYdCQ

[QUOTE]however, pharoahe monch is nerd rap omg[/QUOTE]
serious or not, Desire may fall in that category but Internal Affairs is angry as **** and Organized Konfusion are not nerdy rap.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17747055]
he's a better rapper than nas in 2009[/QUOTE]

i was gonna say something about pharoaoaoah here but

damn youre right

i hear a coward
is that you hogan?
i'm'a woop ur butt
yeah, that's my slogan

haha jaundice you should drop the subject before you say anything more ridiculously funny

[QUOTE=illmitch;17747057]"I grew up on the crime side, the New York times side, stayin' alive was no jive
Had second hands, moms bounced on old mans, so then I moved to Shaolin land
A young youth, yo, rockin the gold tooth, 'Lo goose,
Only time I begin to G off was drug loot"

hella multisyllabics and internal rhyming...[/QUOTE]

lol there's like two or three two-syllable rhymes in that whole thing

alex i guess i just dont see how you can say wu-tang is irrelevant...theyre pretty much in the same exact genre as nas. nas was the first non-wu-tang member to appear on a wu-tang track, and they've had a close relationship for years.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoMPxSi9iUM[/url] the track in question

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17747059]serious or not, Desire may fall in that category but Internal Affairs is angry as **** and Organized Konfusion are not nerdy rap.[/QUOTE]

more making fun of anferny getting butthurt because everyone else here realizes nas sucks :p

I meant that they're irrelevant to the state of complex rapping in 1994.

ya man, the state of complex rapping in 1994 was hella depressing

pharoahe monche is nerd rap if you went to one of his shows what do you think you would find? a bunch of white hipsters and nerds.

I can't help it that I actually understand hiphop and you guys just repeat whatever you read in Spin magazine.

don't argue with jaundice guys, he's been listening to hip-hop for [I]months[/I]

[QUOTE]pharoahe monche is nerd rap if you went to one of his shows what do you think you would find? a bunch of white hipsters and nerds.[/QUOTE]
that's any hip-hop show.

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17747076]I can't help it that I actually understand hiphop and you guys just repeat whatever you read in Spin magazine.[/QUOTE]

nah dude you have dec taste but when you say things like nas was more complex than any other rapper in 94 you just come off as retarded and the Spin-regurgitator

and thats comin from the dude who just said illmatic is the best album ever

Yo RZA, yo razor!
Hit me with the major
The damage, my Clan understand it be flavor
Gunnin, hummin comin atcha
First I'm gonna getcha, once I gotcha, I gat-cha
You could never capture the Method Man's stature
For rhyme and for rapture, got niggaz resigning, now master
my style? Never! I put the ****ing buck in the wild kid, I'm terror
Razor sharp, I sever
the head from the shoulders, I'm better
than my compeda, you mean competitor, whadeva!
Let's get together

alex have you even listened to enter the wu-tang: 36 chambers

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17747080]nah dude you have dec taste but when you say things like nas was more complex than any other rapper in 94 you just come off as retarded and the Spin-regurgitator

and thats comin from the dude who just said illmatic is the best album ever[/QUOTE]I never once in life said that Nas was more complex than any other rapper in 94.

I simply stated that his rhyming skills were highly above average for the time and that's fairly undeniable.

[QUOTE]Yo RZA, yo razor!
Hit me with the major
The damage, my Clan understand it be flavor
Gunnin, hummin comin atcha
First I'm gonna getcha, once I gotcha, I gat-cha
You could never capture the Method Man's stature
For rhyme and for rapture, got niggaz resigning, now master
my style? Never! I put the ****ing buck in the wild kid, I'm terror
Razor sharp, I sever
the head from the shoulders, I'm better
than my compeda, you mean competitor, whadeva!
Let's get together

alex have you even listened to enter the wu-tang: 36 chambers[/QUOTE]I haven't listened to whole album, no.

And that verse is a very bad example to prove that they had lyrical skill.

no it isn't.

[QUOTE=illmitch;17747082]Yo RZA, yo razor!
Hit me with the major
The damage, my Clan understand it be flavor
Gunnin, hummin comin atcha
First I'm gonna getcha, once I gotcha, I gat-cha
You could never capture the Method Man's stature
For rhyme and for rapture, got niggaz resigning, now master
my style? Never! I put the ****ing buck in the wild kid, I'm terror
Razor sharp, I sever
the head from the shoulders, I'm better
than my compeda, you mean competitor, whadeva!
Let's get together

alex have you even listened to enter the wu-tang: 36 chambers[/QUOTE]
omg so classic

also

i be tossin' n' flossin' my style is awesome
i cause more family feuds than richard dawson
and the survey says: your dead
oh by god, he chopped off his ****in head

etc.

best verse in rap ever

Okay we need to have a rap battle so I can tear all of you to pieces and then we'll talk about who knows hip hop


I'll even bring the goon squad

Murderous material, made by a madman
It's the mic wrecker, Inspector, bad man
From the bad lands of the killer, rap fanatic

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv4sgh8-OFU&feature=related[/url]

now heres some complex rapping

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17747094]Okay we need to have a rap battle so I can tear all of you to pieces and then we'll talk about who knows hip hop[/QUOTE]

i donno dude, you once went on about how Pete Rock was underground hipster alternative rap and now you're going on about how good Illmatic is (ironing!) so I dont think I can take anything you say about the genre serious ever.

[url]http://tinychat.com/rmx[/url]

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17747087]

I haven't listened to whole album, no.
[/QUOTE]

wtf how can you claim to know about rap

and

http://tinychat.com/rmx

what's the point of having a chat when the thread is actually active

yea im not a wu-tang stan anymore, but enter the 36 chambers is a definitive album

and lets just stay in the thread

one last verse before i suggest we move on

[QUOTE]Do you wanna hear, the boogie bear
Jump up and do the freak funk, throw your hands in the air
Compare me, with none
The son, of the king, triple crown, just to get the job done
I surpass fast dash through a mass of traps fliers
And blow up the spot, and organize on that ***, I'm hot
Black, with no sugar straight coffee
You stalk me, because your girl wanna hawk me
Jock me clock me watch me mutilate the mic
Rip it apart, shatter your brain when I strike
Add a syringe of raps to cleanse you fall apart
Style damage you amateur cause I'm blowin your file
Honey-dips see me and they yellin organized
And they know -- pharoahe monche's got skills for the wise

Ohhhhhh, huh, ****! look who walked in the door
Ryyyyyuuuu-kick, tiger tiger uppercut
Directly to the gut, when I strut on mics
Makes my windpipe erupt
Better back off, I jack off of wack mc's in the vicinity
Nigga please, I make em bounce[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shtlaKe5IDg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk56_XA0YX0[/url]

honestly my favorite rapper

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17747100]what's the point of having a chat when the thread is actually active[/QUOTE]

because we dont have to see you guys taking jaundice bait

lol