Cave their heads in.

But seriously, either fight fire with fire or try to find witnesses who will contradict him.

yeuh thats the frst thing i would do but it was in the back cark park of a small shpping centre and there was noone around anyway cuz it was late nite shoopping and its easter so there was noone

I would say the confronting him in front of her would be best...even if he is a compulsive liar...it's worth a shot.

yuhe i guess i could try but it would only make me worse and make me look like more of a psycho maybe evern start to look like a stalker

[QUOTE=aria444]wat did u do steerpike[/QUOTE]

At first, I tried explaining to people that the guy was a compulsive liar. He told women that he had cancer but was still keeping on because he thought it would help him get laid. He lied about his relationship with parents to elicit sympathy from others. He lied about the fact that he was on medication for bipolar disorder. And when he was caught in that lie, he lied again and said it was for an "erectile disfunction." And those are just the lies I knew of that he told about himself.

But only a couple of people believed me because I still wasn't a very sociable guy at that point.

Eventually I just gave up and waited for graduation so that I'd never have to see him or those gullible fools ever again.

You can't win by directly confronting people like that. They have no sense of shame and will go to any length, no matter how morally objectionable to win.

yeuh i know exctly what u mean im prolly gonna leave town next week

Sh[U]i[/U]t Ben that's messed up. :(

yeuh i kno man

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Food for thoughts.

I find this one peculiarly intriguing:

Question the second:

A young man who secretly loved a girl was looking for a way to tell her of his love without her family learning of it. Seeing an old woman come to her house every day to ask for alms, he one day asked her to escort him through her families gates and to the young woman's room so that he might declare his love to her. The two are caught in the process by her brothers, who, by some arcane Italian point of honour are able to punish the young man for his disgraceful act.

They give the young man two options: 1) he can live with the old woman for a year and then live the rest of his life with their sister, but for the next year he will be able to show their sister no more affection than he showed the old woman, or 2) he can live with their sister for a year but then must live with the woman for the next year and however much affection he showed their sister he must duplicate with the old woman.

lol wtf are u joking?

how did u kill him



thx rashka i loook into it man apreciated

[QUOTE=Jack Bauer]Hi,

I fancy this girl call Audrey and i don't know what to do. She was going out with this guy called Paul but he died and it was basically my fault - i did nothing to help him. So although me and Audrey were secretly seeing each other behind Paul's back, i don't think she likes me anymore because of what i have done.

What should i do? :([/QUOTE]

What do you mean it was basically your fault?

He basically didn't not push the other guy off the cliff.

yeuh bro beleiv me i gave him a decent assswoopin and if i see him again ill give him another especialy if i leavin town man

that aint outa line glad to kno other ppl thinkin like me

thx bro i apreciate it

ARGH.

I need help, guys.. please.
I don't feel secure with my girlfriend. I've been with her for 2 months and I still can't trust her. I'm always afraid she'll like one of her guy friends or whatever even though their only her good friends.
I do believe her but I get scared, and I go crazy! I don't know what to do..
I know her well enough to know she wouldn't cheat on me but I'm just scared she'll fall for someone else! Please help.. this is driving me nuts.

What does she say about your insecurity? Or have you told her?

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]ARGH.

I need help, guys.. please.
I don't feel secure with my girlfriend. I've been with her for 2 months and I still can't trust her. I'm always afraid she'll like one of her guy friends or whatever even though their only her good friends.
I do believe her but I get scared, and I go crazy! I don't know what to do..
I know her well enough to know she wouldn't cheat on me but I'm just scared she'll fall for someone else! Please help.. this is driving me nuts.[/QUOTE]

This is something you and her will need to work on. You need to learn to be comfortable enough to trust her, it's key to a lasting relationship. Maybe talk to her about how it makes you feel uneasy. Communication is key. I have found with my girlfriend that the more open you are with them in terms of communication, the easier it is to trust her. The ball is in your court here. You need to be the one to work on becoming more comfortable with trusting her.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]What does she say about your insecurity? Or have you told her?[/QUOTE]


Yeah.. I just do what every stupid/insecure person does and pour my dumb questions about her possibly liking someone else on her, just because it makes me feel slightly better, while making everything a little worse because I just can't help it ="(

And she gets MAD when I can't trust her.. she says things like "We've talked about this tons of times, why can't you trust me with it?" and she usually hangs up but ARGH that makes me feel even more insecure, and I can't help bothering her about it but what hurts most is I know I'm only making things worse.. I just want to stop

[QUOTE=EizingerIsGod]This is something you and her will need to work on. You need to learn to be comfortable enough to trust her, it's key to a lasting relationship. Maybe talk to her about how it makes you feel uneasy. Communication is key. I have found with my girlfriend that the more open you are with them in terms of communication, the easier it is to trust her. The ball is in your court here. You need to be the one to work on becoming more comfortable with trusting her.[/QUOTE]

I have told her it makes me uneasy.. and she gets mad at it because she knows I can't trust her..

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]Yeah.. I just do what every stupid/insecure person does and pour my dumb questions about her possibly liking someone else on her, just because it makes me feel slightly better, while making everything a little worse because I just can't help it ="(

And she gets MAD when I can't trust her.. she says things like "We've talked about this tons of times, why can't you trust me with it?" and she usually hangs up but ARGH that makes me feel even more insecure, and I can't help bothering her about it but what hurts most is I know I'm only making things worse.. I just want to stop[/QUOTE]


Don't talk to her by asking "Do you like _____?". This will annoy her like you said. Instead, be more open with her and explain that it's not that you don't trust her and that you think she's going to cheat on you, but instead explain to her that you're insecure about losing her to someone else. If you make it clear that you care alot about her and don't want to lose her to someone else without making it seem like you think she will, it might help things. Just explain it to her like you did here. She might be able to put you more at ease if she understands why you feel insecure about the whole situation.

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]ARGH.

I need help, guys.. please.
I don't feel secure with my girlfriend. I've been with her for 2 months and I still can't trust her. I'm always afraid she'll like one of her guy friends or whatever even though their only her good friends.
I do believe her but I get scared, and I go crazy! I don't know what to do..
I know her well enough to know she wouldn't cheat on me but I'm just scared she'll fall for someone else! Please help.. this is driving me nuts.[/QUOTE]
There's no real advice that's going to help you. Just stop thinking like that. That's the exact way me and my ex were towards each other, and it got to the point where we both stopped hanging out with our friends or even talking to the opposite sex. Guess what? We broke up! So don't let that happen to you. Just lighten up, and whenever you start feeling like that, just think about it logically. Anyways, she's not the last girl you'll have in your life, so even if she did fall for someone else, she's replaceable.

Just don't let your emotions control how you think and act.

I really don't think there's much SHE can do about it.. I think it's all ME.
I think I'm too insecure and I make it that way myself.. I mean.. she's just good friends with other guys, and I'm just a really jealous person.. is there anything at all I can do?

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Just stop thinking like that.[/QUOTE]

If you talk to her and she's still annoyed by the whole situation this is about all you can do. I'm not sure to what extent you've really talked to her about this so that's why I'm suggesting the communication route. However, if she's still bothered by you bringing this up it's in your best interest to just drop it and change your mindset.

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]I really don't think there's much SHE can do about it.. I think it's all ME.
I think I'm too insecure and I make it that way myself.. I mean.. she's just good friends with other guys, and I'm just a really jealous person.. is there anything at all I can do?[/QUOTE]
Unless you have a VERY good reason to suspect she's falling for someone else, don't worry about it. You need to let her have her friends and have some distance away from you.

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]Unless you have a VERY good reason to suspect she's falling for someone else, don't worry about it. You need to let her have her friends and have some distance away from you.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. A kid I know is very intrusive in his girlfriend's life. He is constantly calling her and is very insecure about their relationship. Make sure you don't take it to this point. That will only put a strain on your relationship and you can be sure that it will come to an end fairly quick.

Thanks guys.. I'll try and be more comfortable from now on.. I've said that before but I'm serious this time. I've had this problem before and that relationship went down the drain..

[QUOTE=Whatsisface]I really don't think there's much SHE can do about it.. I think it's all ME.[/quote]

Duh!

[quote]I think I'm too insecure and I make it that way myself.. I mean.. she's just good friends with other guys, and I'm just a really jealous person.. is there anything at all I can do?[/QUOTE]

What you need to do is haul yourself up by the bootstraps and realize that the reason you're so insecure is because you don't trust yourself enough to keep her around. And by nagging her about it, you're just making it even worse because it makes her see you as clingy, needy, and jealous.

The only thing you can do is take some time out for a serious personal evaluation, and then take steps to prove to yourself that you do not need to emotionally attach yourself to another human being like this.

Well, today I was given horrible news by a friend.
That Pamela was going out with a guy named David. A friend of mine.
Turns out, it isn't true. It was just somebody that for some reason is pissed at me, and told my friend about it because he knew that he'd tell me and I'd get all upset.

My question. Why am I such a loser?
Under normal conditions, I would NOT let a girl get me like this, and I would have been like to hell with it and not been how I am right now.
I don't understand it.

[QUOTE=Tillius]
My question. Why am I such a loser?
Under normal conditions, I would NOT let a girl get me like this, and I would have been like to hell with it and not been how I am right now.
I don't understand it.[/QUOTE]


Are you on your period?

[QUOTE=Tillius]Well, today I was given horrible news by a friend.
That Pamela was going out with a guy named David. A friend of mine.
Turns out, it isn't true. It was just somebody that for some reason is pissed at me, and told my friend about it because he knew that he'd tell me and I'd get all upset.

My question. Why am I such a loser?
Under normal conditions, I would NOT let a girl get me like this, and I would have been like to hell with it and not been how I am right now.
I don't understand it.[/QUOTE]

Hate to tell you that sometimes it happens. Also, hate to tell you that it's hell to let it go.

Sierra is coming tomorrow to meet all my friends and im feeling weird.

It'll pass. It's to be expected.

Incidentally grif, I did give a somewhat detailed response to your say statement the other day about my reading up books on interacting with people making me fake (yes, I'm paraphrasing). I would appreciate it if you would look it over and at least hear me out before you write me off the way you did.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]It'll pass. It's to be expected.

Incidentally grif, I did give a somewhat detailed response to your say statement the other day about my reading up books on interacting with people making me fake (yes, I'm paraphrasing). I would appreciate it if you would look it over and at least hear me out before you write me off the way you did.[/QUOTE]
oh ok
was just my opinion anyway man
not saying its wrong to do it - just to me, i wouldnt do that. what you see is what you get sorta thing

To play devil's advocate, you're not compromising yourself at all. I never heed the sort of advice I reference in this book unless it contributes to personal progress and/or in some way promotes physical, mental, or emotional health.

If you think about it, the advice I was referencing is really no different than telling someone "Exercising to stay healthy is a good idea."

[QUOTE=Steerpike]How am I compromising myself by seeking to improve my general behavior? Am I supposed to remain stagnant in mediocrity because I was born that way?

Let me tell you something. Before I began my quest of self-improvement I was a downright miserable sum'bitch. I had no self-esteem, I was prone to frequent depressive episodes, I was [i]under[/i]weight because of the poor job I did in taking care of myself, I hated people and went to great lengths to avoid them... In short, I was on the road to nowhere. And you know what? I'd been that way my entire life.

By your logic, I should have stayed that way because that was "being myself." That was how I was born, that was how I had lived my entire life.

[B]But I wasn't happy that way. I was miserable, angry, self-loathing, and petulent. And in high school, I decided that enough was enough.[/B]

The last 5 years of my life have been a quest to become the person I wanted to be in my dreams. And I've made significant progress along the way. I've broken a lot of old bad habits, I'm coming out of my shell, I'm becoming a more well-rounded individual. For the first time in my life, I'm starting to feel optimistic.

And you know why? Because this is the person I'm supposed to be. And you want to tell me I'm not being myself?[/QUOTE]


Well im sure you realised that yourself as you said right there in bold, that you were unhappy. Im sure you would of gotten up off you're *** and done something about it yourself after you realised it.
But im sure the book helped you.

Im not saying its wrong to use the books, or its sad to use them. Im sure some of the stuff in that book would be great for anyone, but some of the things like someone said "making a slow smile" i find to be really forced out. Like. You can change yourself all you want, take advice all you want, but you are just building yourself onsomeone elses dream, not yours.

[QUOTE=~grif~]Well im sure you realised that yourself as you said right there in bold, that you were unhappy. Im sure you would of gotten up off you're *** and done something about it yourself after you realised it.
But im sure the book helped you.

Im not saying its wrong to use the books, or its sad to use them. Im sure some of the stuff in that book would be great for anyone, but some of the things like someone said "making a slow smile" i find to be really forced out. Like. You can change yourself all you want, take advice all you want, but you are just building yourself onsomeone elses dream, not yours.[/QUOTE]

And when you get to be my age, Kev, you realise that when you're young, there are things that you might not notice to improve yourself, just because of the fact that you haven't been alive long enough.

I don't buy into all of what the self-help books say, because sometimes I think it's a crock, but sometimes they can be helpful.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]And when you get to be my age, Kev, you realise that when you're young, there are things that you might not notice to improve yourself, just because of the fact that you haven't been alive long enough.

I don't buy into all of what the self-help books say, because sometimes I think it's a crock, but sometimes they can be helpful.[/QUOTE]
Well now that you say that.

I can sit back, think of anything that i would like to improve on myself right now. The only thing really is go to the gym and get big and strong. Im alright, i have a good life, good friends, good social life and can talk to people easy.

When i get as old as you are ;) - im sure il see something else, but i cant change time.

No you can't change time...neither can I.

But, there are tricks that you learn as you get older that are useful.

I'm perfect. Save for a couple minor details, I'm the excellence of execution.

[QUOTE=Jom]I'm perfect. Save for a couple minor details, I'm the excellence of execution.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

Yeah, except for the fact that you LIE.

Not really. I just fracture truth to people I don't know personally.

It doesn't hurt anything.

:s

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]:rolleyes:

Yeah, except for the fact that you LIE.[/QUOTE]

You mean mods aren't infallable?