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yama_stage_advantage 08-03-2006 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=yama_stage_advantage]do you have any experience with the ride?[/QUOTE]
sorry double post:smash:

now triple:p

Tim 08-03-2006 10:38 PM

I have the AA raw bell dry ride. which is a medium heavy. different i know but i love it. For the most part AA cymbals are great. only thing i dont like are the rock crashes.

Daven 08-04-2006 02:47 PM

Can someone tell me what's Zildjian equivalent to some aax stage hats.

Cocaberry 08-04-2006 02:53 PM

Mastersounds maybe?

chewaz 08-04-2006 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Mastersounds maybe?[/QUOTE]

nah

Cocaberry 08-04-2006 03:24 PM

Newbeats then?

Plan B. 08-04-2006 03:42 PM

Yep, I'd sat NewBeats too.

chewaz 08-04-2006 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Newbeats then?[/QUOTE]
nah

Cocaberry 08-04-2006 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=Daven]Can someone tell me what's Zildjian equivalent to some aax stage hats.[/QUOTE]

Just buy the Stage Hats. They're awesome hats, I have a pair myself. Very versatile.

chewaz 08-04-2006 05:33 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Just buy the Stage Hats. They're awesome hats, I have a pair myself. Very versatile.[/QUOTE]

nah! get the vault hats! that's the shizzle

al98 08-04-2006 07:26 PM

Hi, looking for a ride, 19" to 22" max, good stick def, not very washy, nice cutting bell, powerful aswell as versatile.

Thanks

chewaz 08-04-2006 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=al98]Hi, looking for a ride, 19" to 22" max, good stick def, not very washy, nice cutting bell, powerful aswell as versatile.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

22" AA or HH rock ride

Seafroggys 08-05-2006 12:02 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Newbeats then?[/QUOTE]

no...

mullets suk 08-05-2006 09:40 AM

simple questions...but ive heard wuhans are really good cheap cymbals. is this try cause i just want to pick up another crash, or a splash.i may get the rock and splash pack, i know there really crappy but thats what i would like. Also do they make wuhan rides, cause ive never seen them before.

~(lunch_box)~ 08-05-2006 04:23 PM

what is a good ride that would sound good in a live setting for a 3 piece(drums,bass,guitar/vocals) rock/folk rock band?

thanks in advance for any suggestions

MeaninglessPhoto 08-05-2006 04:48 PM

It depends on if you want a crashable ride and what sound you want.

IMO I would go for a Medium Ride for crashibility or a Ping Ride for noncrashability but great stick definition.

DuckinFutch8 08-05-2006 09:05 PM

I have a heavier ride (22" A Medium) and I'm looking for a lighter one, with less presence but still some good stick definition. Something that could be used in some more jazzy or latin settings. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Seafroggys 08-05-2006 10:38 PM

20" Medium?

MeaninglessPhoto 08-05-2006 10:40 PM

Go for a 20" Medium like Seafroggys said.

Plan B. 08-05-2006 10:47 PM

Sweet ride maybe.

DuckinFutch8 08-05-2006 10:49 PM

Thanks! I'll probably run into the store tomorrow and try those and a couple other out.

mullets suk 08-06-2006 08:43 AM

i think my question got skipped over so ill just restate.

Are wuhans any good? ive heard there good for there cheap price. also will they last for a long while??

We_Love_Lime 08-06-2006 08:47 AM

They're good.

But since they're cheap, I've heard somepeople saying they won't last long.
They'd be good If You know your going to replace them within time.

MeaninglessPhoto 08-06-2006 11:22 AM

Ive found the bigger Wuhans to last longer. But ive also had my 12" for almost a year now. My 24" could probably survive an explosion and could protect me from nuclear winter. I love the chinas and the splashes. Theyre good if you want cheap trashyness.

drum_with_ease 08-06-2006 08:48 PM

I'm finally going to convert my older drum set into a jazz kit. The only thing I really need is cymbals. I want to get a ride, hats, and 2 crashes (preferably one around 14" and one 18"). I want a nice washy sound.

Can anyone recommend some cymbals with those preferences? Maybe even a website that sells them cheap-ish?

Thanks

Static 08-07-2006 03:40 AM

Well for the site, try [url]http://www.massmusic.net[/url]. Andy is a really cool guy and helps out a lot. For a crash, I would get a 18" K Custom Dark Crash. Not sure about the others.

Opinions on 20" K Ride and 14" Paragon Hats?

Thank you.

We_Love_Lime 08-07-2006 08:08 AM

CIE Vintages would suit you well.


14 hats.
16 Crash.
18 Crash.
20 Ride, although those go on the bit of the ...expensive side.

Might I suggest some HHX Manhattans as well ( Knows nothing about Sabian ).

Or try an Armand Zildjian 19 Beautiful Baby, some quickbeats, and thin and medium thin crashes.

You can take the recomendations that George said too, and you can go to Zildjian.com and check them out at their "sound lab".

Sabian has the same thing with Manhattans.

Sabian4015 08-07-2006 10:28 PM

If your a jazz drummer....you might want to look into a sizzle ride. Alot of jazz drummers have more rides than crashes. You could get a light crispy ride and then a sizzle ride and have a large(r) crash to accompany that of the K series or Manhattan Sabians.

TTTSNB 08-07-2006 11:36 PM

Anyone have a clue where I could find a really big (24"- 27") wuhan and try it out? I've been wanting to get one forever, but I've never been able to find them.

Tim 08-08-2006 02:16 AM

dont know about the trying out part but last time i checked musicians friend had a 24 i beleive.

raz0r 08-08-2006 08:53 AM

[QUOTE=TTTSNB]Anyone have a clue where I could find a really big (24"- 27") wuhan and try it out? I've been wanting to get one forever, but I've never been able to find them.[/QUOTE]
The only shop around here that sells Wuhans sells them in up to a 27"

You could always ask a shop to order one in for you to try out, couldn't you?

Tim 08-08-2006 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=raz0r]The only shop around here that sells Wuhans sells them in up to a 27"

You could always ask a shop to order one in for you to try out, couldn't you?[/QUOTE]

you have to pay for it for them to order it.

raz0r 08-08-2006 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=Tim]you have to pay for it for them to order it.[/QUOTE]
Not around here you don't.

If you decide you don't like it when they get it in, they just put it out on display, for someone else to buy.

mullets suk 08-08-2006 04:36 PM

i dont have any money right now, but when i do, think i need better hi-hats. right now im using zbt bottoms, and planet Z tops. the two lowest types i could have. What are some good hi-hats, for around $100-200 (USA). i dont know much about what makes good hi-hats. I normally play punk or rock. when i play ride i do use alot of (dont know tech name of it) clicking on the hats, so anything with alot of that would be great.

We_Love_Lime 08-08-2006 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=mullets suk]i dont have any money right now, but when i do, think i need better hi-hats. right now im using zbt bottoms, and planet Z tops. the two lowest types i could have. What are some good hi-hats, for around $100-200 (USA). i dont know much about what makes good hi-hats. I normally play punk or rock. when i play ride i do use alot of (dont know tech name of it) clicking on the hats, so anything with alot of that would be great.[/QUOTE]

Hmm

Maybe some like 14/15 New Beats ( Although those might be out of your price range ).

Do you mean operating the high hats with your feet? You'll get more sound out of a larger high hat (and heavier) I would assume.

New Beats seem to be what your after.

Or maybe even the K/Z Dyno Beats or whatever.

Seafroggys 08-08-2006 09:11 PM

^^^ what he said!

drum_with_ease 08-08-2006 11:02 PM

I just counted my money and I have $850 to spend. I liked all of your suggestions for jazz cymbals, but I think some of them may be too pricey.

In my area, there aren't any drumming stores that are mainly cymbals, so I have to look online. So, I've been looking for awhile and found a website called cymbalsonly.com. They have a great selection. Well, I'm currently looking at Istambul Mehmet Sultan series, does annyone think these cymbals would be a good choice? I love the sound clips, and they're in my price range, but I can't really try before I buy.

Raging_Poo 08-08-2006 11:17 PM

I don't have a lot of money to spend and i really need new cymbals. Right now I'm trying to decide between a set of Meinl MCS's or Zildjian ZBT 4's. Which should I get? or is there any better cymbals in that price range?

btw first post

drummerdave 08-08-2006 11:21 PM

i would suggest to you to not get overanxious to get a bunch of cymbals, and then end up buying crap, buy yourself a nice pro level hi hats and ride, look into new beats, very versatile, and a medium ride or some sort, those are also very versatile, although look into the pro level lines of all the companies an dpick the ones you like best

White Riot! 08-08-2006 11:38 PM

[QUOTE=Raging_Poo]I don't have a lot of money to spend and i really need new cymbals. Right now I'm trying to decide between a set of Meinl MCS's or Zildjian ZBT 4's. Which should I get? or is there any better cymbals in that price range?

btw first post[/QUOTE]


MCS > ZBT

Personally If i were you i'd save a little and get Meinl Classics or XS20


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