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TrainTakeMeHome 02-20-2005 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=Fernandes Power]I really want to get into TOOL... I went on the website though, and it seemed so pretentious and false... almost like they were just having a bit of fun with it (band member profiles specifically).[/QUOTE]
It's just a joke. Start listening to a lot of Tool and you will be able to easily discern when the band is being serious and when they are joking around/having a bit of fun, as they are very commonly known to do. It's really quite funny.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-20-2005 07:58 PM

After a long awaited period of time, I finally got Ænima today. It's a lot different from Lateralus, but man, is it fooking kickas[B][I][/I][/B]s. Coolest album art I've ever seen.

magicbus 02-20-2005 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]After a long awaited period of time, I finally got Ænima today. It's a lot different from Lateralus, but man, is it fooking kickas[B][I][/I][/B]s. Coolest album art I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it? Its my favorite album, even though Lateralus rules. Every song on Ænima is good. I love it.

Darkness 02-20-2005 08:43 PM

Every song on Lateralus is good to..The only problem with Ænima is all the little fillers..the only ones i like are message and von satan, and usefull idiot is needed..but the rest are to long.

Last Ditch Effort 02-20-2005 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Every song on Lateralus is good to..The only problem with Ænima is all the little fillers..the only ones i like are message and von satan, and usefull idiot is needed..but the rest are to long.[/QUOTE]
Nonetheless
an awesome CD.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-20-2005 09:02 PM

Ok, so the peice of album art of the guy sitting on the ground...What is he doing? I have an idea, but...I really hope I'm wrong.

Street Spirit (Fade Out) 02-20-2005 09:06 PM

I like Ions :(

Darkness 02-20-2005 09:07 PM

Its just to long..

..specially since Third Eyes intro is so long.

EliteX7 02-20-2005 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]YOu sure you dont mean OGT? Which was the short hand for 'Official Gangster of Tool', some sort of fan base (probably fictional piss take, but without being around in tools early days, I dont know)[/QUOTE]

I always thought OGT = Original Gangster Tool. :wave:
If this hasn't been mentioned (I doubt it hasn't): [url]http://toolshed.down.net/faq/faq.html[/url]

EliteX7 02-20-2005 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]Ok, so the peice of album art of the guy sitting on the ground...What is he doing? I have an idea, but...I really hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

Giving himself head?! :lol:

EliteX7 02-20-2005 09:14 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Every song on Lateralus is good to..The only problem with Ænima is all the little fillers..the only ones i like are message and von satan, and usefull idiot is needed..but the rest are to long.[/QUOTE]

I think "Intermission" is a perfect 'filler' to come before "Jimmy".

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-20-2005 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=EliteX7]Giving himself head?! :lol:[/QUOTE]

:upset:

One of my life goals was to never see a guy give himself head. Crap.

FYI, that is what I had assumed.

EliteX7 02-20-2005 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]:upset:

One of my life goals was to never see a guy give himself head. Crap.

FYI, that is what I had assumed.[/QUOTE]

You did know that you can switch the covers right and make it move? *Not trying to be an [B]a[/B]sshole :amaze:

Darkness 02-20-2005 09:23 PM

I forgot about intermission...I love that one.

And post all your stuff in one post rather then 10. (Just a suggestion)

Kage 02-20-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]Ok, so the peice of album art of the guy sitting on the ground...What is he doing? I have an idea, but...I really hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried slipping that into the front so becomes the cover? It is also a holographic image and it moves around. Same thing with the big eye, which is my favorite one and I keep as the cover.

EliteX7 02-20-2005 09:28 PM

The eye is also my cover and how do I quote more than one person at once? :thumb:

Darkness 02-20-2005 09:30 PM

Just do the quote html thing then copy and paste what they said..thats what I do.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-20-2005 10:36 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Have you tried slipping that into the front so becomes the cover? It is also a holographic image and it moves around. Same thing with the big eye, which is my favorite one and I keep as the cover.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it was the first thing I did when I bought it. I really like the eye too. Is there some kind of symbolism to the white square on the front that comes default?

Darkness 02-20-2005 10:47 PM

It looks like a splash of something..

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-20-2005 11:00 PM

[QUOTE]G10. Who was Bill Hicks?
A comedian, well-liked by the band. He passed away a few years ago. Notice he is listed in the liner notes for "Undertow" as well. And no, he didn't paint that painting, it was done by Kevin Willis (see Question E7). He has four CDs released on Rykodisc last spring; one of them is entitled "Arizona Bay."
Hicks had a strong influence on the band's work, which becomes clear after giving his CDs a listen. On a related note, Jordan Geiger (wngeiger@vax1.rainis.net) suggests another place you might want to check for insights into "Ænima" (such as LA falling, "Third Eye", "Forty-Six & 2", the artwork): "Nothing In This Book Is True But It Is Exactly How Things Are" by Bob Frissell (one of the many books on Tool's suggested reading list). More on Hicks as we go on... [/QUOTE]

Is Bill Hicks the guy talking at the beginning of "Third Eye?"

EDIT: Never mind, I finished reading that huge FAQ, and it is him. :thumb:

Good FAQ, to whoever posted it.

ÆnemÆ 02-20-2005 11:29 PM

there is quite an in depth reply to 46 and 2 located here

helped me work out the basic background to this song

conciousuniverse 02-20-2005 11:47 PM

Suggested Toolish Readings
 
You all should really read "Nothing in this book is true, but its exactly how things are" and also "You are a spiritual being having a human experience".... if you have the extra time and cash also look for "the spectrum of conciousness" its a huge book and explains everything...which is nothing... but i dont want to trip yall out, so just read those books...

also, check out this link, which ive posted before (and didnt get much response, because it seems that yall arent into the philosophies behind tool) but ill post again, hopefully someone will find it useful, as my friends and i did.

[URL=http://www.toolpantheon.com/lateralus_meanings.htm]"Lateralus Meanings"[/URL]

**Before you get the new album**
Also, Danny Carey suggested reading about the temple of solomon and his magick, in order to be "prepared". A good book covering this would be, "The Magick of Solomon" by Poke Runyun.


Comments welcome.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-20-2005 11:59 PM

I've read that before, and I really think it is digging perhaps a little too deep. I can buy the whole alternate tracklist, but, the whole paralells to the Qabala thing is a little too heavy for me. Bear in mind that one of Tool's main philosophies is "don't beleive everything you hear." :thumb:

conciousuniverse 02-21-2005 01:05 AM

Thanks for commenting.

I guess it seems heavy. I can understand that its a lot of information to process.
But if you are in to meditation and this kind of lifestyle its very helpful, especially for the artist. Also, I don't believe everything I see or hear, but it would be a good idea to be aware of influences. For example, the Enochian Mandalas that appear everywhere in Tool's presence, including atop Danny's drums. Maynard himself has stated that many people dont realize what they have to offer and what the purpose of the music is.

Anyway, I know it weighs a lot, but put yourself in that vunerable space, and open up to the possibility.



BTW, some people were saying they didnt like the 'filler' material on the albums, someone also wrote that the intro to 'third eye' was too long... man, i could write many things, but ill just request that you listen to "ticks and leeches" on repeat, until you get it.

jensmatty 02-21-2005 05:16 AM

[QUOTE]ill just request that you listen to "ticks and leeches" on repeat, until you get it.[/QUOTE]

I tried to go to sleep doing that... Worst night ever haha.

Werny 02-21-2005 05:22 AM

conciousuniverse, I like all of the symbolism and everything but I'm really too young to understand it all, I'm only 15. Nevertheless I do find listening to Tool a great assistance for other artistic ventures. Listening to Reflection is a soul lifting, life making experience.

Oh, and I cracked up laughing at your Ticks and Leeches comment. I myself completely love every moment that Tool has ever produced and every journey they have taken me on. Of course there are some tracks I would rather listen to then others, but there are no tracks I would ever skip.

I have one quarrel; for those people who analyzed HWAP and Die Eier Von Satan, realise that you're looking with a philosophical eye into a bunch of jokes. HWAP is an insult to little kids that say they sold out, and Die Eier Von Satan is a joke, reminiscent of Soundgarden's 665/667, that is making fun of the notion that Tool are satanic.

conciousuniverse 02-21-2005 05:49 AM

Werny, thanks for your comments on my post.

I say, the information has found its way to you & your mind reacts regardless of age.

Im happy you found the cynicism in "Ticks and Leeches."

Also, HWAP = Maynard is a whore. More cyncism.
Funny 'cause it's truuue.

conciousuniverse 02-21-2005 05:59 AM

[QUOTE]I tried to go to sleep doing that... Worst night ever haha.[/QUOTE]

jensmatty, that is impressive. Haha...

If you're in that mental groove, you could hypnotize yourself, listening to it or any of their many other songs.

conciousuniverse 02-21-2005 06:29 AM

More Toolishness
 
Sorry to be double posting or whatever.

I found this ... it's very promissing.

"TOOL: A Book of Interpretations"
Compiled by: Steven Caddy

[url]http://www.vanillacircus.net/book/tool_book.pdf[/url]

It may take a while, but I hope it helps.

Kage 02-21-2005 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]Yeah, it was the first thing I did when I bought it. I really like the eye too. Is there some kind of symbolism to the white square on the front that comes default?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, I've been trying to figure that out as it appears in several places including the videos for Stinkfist and AEnema, etc. Obviously there's the eye symbolism there, but I'm unclear as to what it all means.

As for Lateralus, I think there's a lot that could be interpreted as to its meanings and the various influences that went into making the album. But I think it's more of a personal venture than one of archetypal meanings.


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