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i am the robots 09-01-2005 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]The races and heroes of WCIII were amazing, but the rest of the game paled in comparison to Starcraft. SC had a higher food limit, larger tech tree, and more units and upgrades. SC was about building up an army and combining units whereas WCIII is all about heroes.[/QUOTE]

Warcraft is a lot like Starcraft in the unit combinations, like.... if you just mass Huntresses, you'll get pwned, but if you get Huntresses and Archers... well... whole new story. But yes, SC is all about the numbers, yet a skilled player will rely on individual units, in WC you have to rely on the individual unit in order to be half decent though, which is why one of my best friends who is quite good at SC sucks at WC :).

repcak 09-01-2005 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Yeah, those guys were [still are?] quite epic.... still nothing can compare to t4k3r and [tk]blue crush's like 5 game 1v1 spree for number 1 in Europe on WC3, you can download all the matches on wcreplays.com, basically, t4k3r hands blue crush's *** to him using towers only.... he freaking creeps with towers.... and he doesn't tower rush.... he tower attacks... and harasses... it's insane how good he is with a few Peons and a Far Seer.[/QUOTE]

yeah , they still exist... i saw some games from the wcg 05... great games...can you remember SlayerBoxer, then he renamed to Boxer only... was a Korean boy... great Terraner player... amazing
he is a millionair now :lol:

Shadows 09-01-2005 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Warcraft is a lot like Starcraft in the unit combinations, like.... if you just mass Huntresses, you'll get pwned, but if you get Huntresses and Archers... well... whole new story. But yes, SC is all about the numbers, yet a skilled player will rely on individual units, in WC you have to rely on the individual unit in order to be half decent though, which is why one of my best friends who is quite good at SC sucks at WC :).[/QUOTE]
That sounds like me. I'm not too bad at Starcraft (or at least I was) but I'm terrible at WC.

But a mass of Huntresses wouldn't do badly. The archers wouldn't be needed if you have a Priestess with Trueshot Aura.

I take it you're a Night Elf player? Me too. :cool:

i am the robots 09-01-2005 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]123
and cause starcraft has 3 species the are more different...

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diablo2 is a role-playing game
starcraft is a strategy game[/QUOTE]

Not really, in WC every race has its strengths/weaknesses as well.

Like for instance, the Orcs start out incredibly strong, but because they start out some strong, their workers are incredibly slow. Humans on the other hand basically rely on upgrades and technologies, so their workers have a power building feature, and they start off with more food than the other races. Night Elf is all around the most balanced of the races, but their workers don't deplete lumber, just gather, and the wisps don't leave the gold mine ever, and can't be attacked while mining, also their workers become their buildings [zerg much?]. The Undead are basically the antithesis of Night Elf though, they only need 5 workers and can gather gold out the ***, and they freaking summon buildings, but then their buildings can only be built in certain areas, which makes their bases pretty concentrated and perfect for siege.

Shadows 09-01-2005 03:47 PM

Humans are the most overpowered race EVER. :angry: I always get my *** kicked by humans.

i am the robots 09-01-2005 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]That sounds like me. I'm not too bad at Starcraft (or at least I was) but I'm terrible at WC.

But a mass of Huntresses wouldn't do badly. The archers wouldn't be needed if you have a Priestess with Trueshot Aura.

I take it you're a Night Elf player? Me too. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I play NE, but dude.... if you have Hunts alone, anything that does piercing damage will tear you apart, and then if the person gets air..... pwned. My 1v1 strategy goes as follows: KOTG->Hunts->Beast Master->archers->Dark Ranger->ballistas.

i am the robots 09-01-2005 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Humans are the most overpowered race EVER. :angry: I always get my *** kicked by humans.[/QUOTE]

All you need to do is rush a human player with ranged units and a tank hero/hero with summoned units. Cause if you look at it, the Human units at tier 1 are incredibly weak without upgrades, the footman has like 200 health, and the rifleman starts out with ****ty range, then the militia are basically faster footmen with less health, who last for a short period of time, so the basic human player will most likely tech, and just mass a few rifles and get a bunch of peasants, then when they call to arms, you tank it up, and then focus fire the riflemen :cool:.

Shadows 09-01-2005 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Yeah, I play NE, but dude.... if you have Hunts alone, anything that does piercing damage will tear you apart, and then if the person gets air..... pwned. My 1v1 strategy goes as follows: KOTG->Hunts->Beast Master->archers->Dark Ranger->ballistas.[/QUOTE]
Are you an FT player or RoC? I usually get a mass of archers with unts thrown in. I top it off with a Trueshot Aura Priestess to add to damage and a D.Hunter with Immolation to help out the hunts. It works most of the time.

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]All you need to do is rush a human player with ranged units and a tank hero/hero with summoned units. Cause if you look at it, the Human units at tier 1 are incredibly weak without upgrades, the footman has like 200 health, and the rifleman starts out with ****ty range, then the militia are basically faster footmen with less health, who last for a short period of time, so the basic human player will most likely tech, and just mass a few rifles and get a bunch of peasants, then when they call to arms, you tank it up, and then focus fire the riflemen :cool:.[/QUOTE]
It's the human heroes that get me. Whenever I start to fight them, all their heroes are always f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking invincible for no apparent reason. I know the Paladin can do that, but when he becomes invincible and heals his other guys at the same time...it's just not fair. :( I suck at rushing unless I'm playing Undead anyway.

i am the robots 09-01-2005 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Are you an FT player or RoC? I usually get a mass of archers with unts thrown in. I top it off with a Trueshot Aura Priestess to add to damage and a D.Hunter with Immolation to help out the hunts. It works most of the time.


It's the human heroes that get me. Whenever I start to fight them, all their heroes are always f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking invincible for no apparent reason. I know the Paladin can do that, but when he becomes invincible and heals his other guys at the same time...it's just not fair. :( I suck at rushing unless I'm playing Undead anyway.[/QUOTE]

I play TFT, but yeah... if you rush the Human player, their Paladin won't be strong enough to have the shield AND holy light, and then the holy light will be very weak at level 1, and if you have a few melee units, after you take out the rifles, focus the hero.... you just need to look out for their caster heros, cause blizzard & flame strike pwn ranged units :(.

Shadows 09-01-2005 03:56 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]I play TFT, but yeah... if you rush the Human player, their Paladin won't be strong enough to have the shield AND holy light, and then the holy light will be very weak at level 1, and if you have a few melee units, after you take out the rifles, focus the hero.... you just need to look out for their caster heros, cause blizzard & flame strike pwn ranged units :(.[/QUOTE]
An Arch Mage with the elementals pisses me off no matter how high my level is. :mad: Blizzard, summoning the elementals is lethal. Luckily I've never experienced Mass Teleport.

Arucard 09-01-2005 04:00 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]I'm sorry, but that's just not true, you completely miss the whole "quest" thing, and the whole guild thing which basically allows you to **** around with your friends, then you also are missing the whole organized raiding thing...[/QUOTE]

I enjoyed MxO, but it just bores me after a while. I don't wanna kill ten thousand monsters to gain one level.

Kingofdudes 09-01-2005 04:02 PM

Can someone do me a big favor? Can someone go here [url]http://wlbt.com/[/url] and watch the video titled "Skycopter on the Coast: Second Tour" and explain what ocean springs looks like?

Shadows 09-01-2005 04:08 PM

Are you not able to see the video? It didn't look [I]as[/I] bad as many cities. It was still very highly damaged, but Ocean Springs still had several buildings standing in many parts.

Arucard 09-01-2005 04:10 PM

I just saw the news about that hurricane that America on Monday, its crazy! Gang war, shoot outs, rape, looting. And why is everyone in the videos black?

jpj 09-01-2005 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=Arucard]I just saw the news about that hurricane that America on Monday, its crazy! Gang war, shoot outs, rape, looting. And why is everyone in the videos black?[/QUOTE]
Because there's a lot of 'em in New Orleans/Mississippi? Also, a lot of the people that weren't able to evacuate were the poorer folk, not that all black people are poor, but...yea.

I'd also like to know where the international support is. I haven't heard anything about donations or resources coming from other countries.

i am the robots 09-01-2005 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]An Arch Mage with the elementals pisses me off no matter how high my level is. :mad: Blizzard, summoning the elementals is lethal. Luckily I've never experienced Mass Teleport.[/QUOTE]

Oh my lord... in an FFA, someone gets a level 6 am and some tanks, all they need is one knight, they have it run to the town hall, then the person is dead.

I used to play human, I'd always get casters/riflemen/spellbreakers and a few tanks. It's a lethal FFA strategy, then you get the Archmage, the Bloodmage, and the Pitlord, and do the mass AOE spells... it pwns everything!

i am the robots 09-01-2005 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]Because there's a lot of 'em in New Orleans/Mississippi? Also, a lot of the people that weren't able to evacuate were the poorer folk, not that all black people are poor, but...yea.[/QUOTE]

OMG U R KALLING BLAX STOOPID, U R RACIST!

Arucard 09-01-2005 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]Because there's a lot of 'em in New Orleans/Mississippi? Also, a lot of the people that weren't able to evacuate were the poorer folk, not that all black people are poor, but...yea.[/QUOTE]

Ahhh ok then. It seems Bush kinda fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE]ed this up abit, amirite?

Illmatic 09-01-2005 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]Because there's a lot of 'em in New Orleans/Mississippi? Also, a lot of the people that weren't able to evacuate were the poorer folk, not that all black people are poor, but...yea.[/QUOTE]

Well, most poor people are black, so we get the idea.

Shadows 09-01-2005 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Oh my lord... in an FFA, someone gets a level 6 am and some tanks, all they need is one knight, they have it run to the town hall, then the person is dead.

I used to play human, I'd always get casters/riflemen/spellbreakers and a few tanks. It's a lethal FFA strategy, then you get the Archmage, the Bloodmage, and the Pitlord, and do the mass AOE spells... it pwns everything![/QUOTE]
I suck at FFAs. :( I just got Frozen Throne a few days ago so I'm still trying to get used to the new stuff as well. I haven't played a single online game with it yet.

jpj 09-01-2005 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=Arucard]Ahhh ok then. It seems Bush kinda fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE]ed this up abit, amirite?[/QUOTE]
How so? I didn't see all of his statement about it, but I haven't heard anyone criticizing him. Of course, I haven't watched the news since this morning.

Illmatic 09-01-2005 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=Arucard]Ahhh ok then. It seems Bush kinda fuc[SIZE=2]k[/SIZE]ed this up abit, amirite?[/QUOTE]

How did Bush screw up?

There's not a whole lot you can do about a hurricane.

I realize that from what I've heard they're doing a terrible job taking care of the survivors, if that's what you mean.

Arucard 09-01-2005 04:18 PM

I dunno, it just seems he underestimated how much had gone wrong, and now its all kinda blown up and he's just like 'Ooops.'

Shattered_Future 09-01-2005 04:18 PM

I've only seen like 20 seconds of footage about the hurricane on the news...

From what I saw, it looks like New Orleans is underwater. It's terrible.

Shadows 09-01-2005 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I've only seen like 20 seconds of footage about the hurricane on the news...

From what I saw, it looks like New Orleans is underwater. It's terrible.[/QUOTE]
I read in the newspaper that 80% of the city is completely flooded. That was afew days ago, so it might be more by now.
[QUOTE=Arucard]I dunno, it just seems he underestimated how much had gone wrong, and now its all kinda blown up and he's just like 'Ooops.'[/QUOTE]
What would he have done? Set up a gigantic wall to stop it from hitting? All they can really do is wait for it to pass and and rebuild as quickly as possible.

Arucard 09-01-2005 04:25 PM

I didn't mean that, i meant aid and controlling the sudden surge of violence.

Kingofdudes 09-01-2005 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=Arucard]I dunno, it just seems he underestimated how much had gone wrong, and now its all kinda blown up and he's just like 'Ooops.'[/QUOTE]
The hurricane wasnt anything to worry about on Friday. On Saturday it became a category 5. We didnt have much time to do anything. New Orleans isnt Bush's fault, blame whoever designed it decades ago.

Im screwed.... I may never be able to go home again. The entire region is out of control. People are being robbed, car jacked, there isnt any water, or power, and soon we will run out of food in the stores. Sometime in the next 2 days im moving to Idaho, and I will continue school there. My dad has to go back to Keesler AFB in a week and help repair the base. Im gonna try to graduate high school early(I am eligible for 1/2 year graduation), and get on with my life somehow. Christ, things were going so good, now this happens.

Shadows 09-01-2005 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=Kingofdudes]Im screwed.... I may never be able to go home again. The entire region is out of control. People are being robbed, car jacked, there isnt any water, or power, and soon we will run out of food in the stores. Sometime in the next 2 days im moving to Idaho, and I will continue school there. My dad has to go back to Keesler AFB in a week and help repair the base. Im gonna try to graduate high school early(I am eligible for 1/2 year graduation), and get on with my life somehow. Christ, things were going so good, now this happens.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, man. :( That sounds terrible. It's hard for me to understand since I live up north and pictures aren't the same thing. You seem to be taking this remarkabley well though.

Arucard 09-01-2005 04:29 PM

I didn't mean it like that! Gawd!

Lord Abortion 09-01-2005 04:30 PM

Fu[b][i][/b][/i]ck, that's worse than I thought would be possible, you have your life I suppose, take comfort from that, lots of people don't after this.


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