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fathergoat 10-30-2007 08:19 PM

I am in my extra semester. I graduated with an 80 average but needed calc and physics to get have better prereq's for Biochem.

What grade are you in?

Surtr 10-31-2007 03:36 PM

Ooo, Jess and Fathergoat meet up for sXe.

And so I've finally gotten to give this new album a listen, thanks to JumpThe****Up :) And I like it, it's good s[I]hi[/I]t.

Transient 10-31-2007 05:47 PM

Yeah, I don't see why people are complaining that it's similar to EGN, I mean seriously, it's ska punk. How much variation can you actually get? For a genre that has a lot of repitition (Reel Big Fish lololol), this album is a breath of fresh air. I mean, most of the songs are different in their sound and it's easy enough to differentiate between the tracks from EGN and SitB, so why complain?

But yeah, the drums suck. That's pretty much the only negative.

Surtr 10-31-2007 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=JumpTheF**kUp;15480733]Yeah, I don't see why people are complaining that it's similar to EGN, I mean seriously, it's ska punk. How much variation can you actually get? For a genre that has a lot of repitition (Reel Big Fish lololol), this album is a breath of fresh air. I mean, most of the songs are different in their sound and it's easy enough to differentiate between the tracks from EGN and SitB, so why complain?

But yeah, the drums suck. That's pretty much the only negative.[/QUOTE]

I didn't really notice that much that's wrong with the drums, they're not awful or anything...? Or am I missing something here...

And yeah, my favorite tracks have gotta' be the last two, "The Receiving End Of It All" and "What A Wicked Gang We Are".

Both really cool songs, and they're sorta' different from the rest of Streetlights stuff, in the way that they're just a lot darker sounding.

Kithkin 10-31-2007 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=DougJI;15474925]Am I the only one who sees massive difference between this and EGN?[/QUOTE]

No, they feel completely different.

On the surface are the distinctive voice, the fact that horns don't have much variation in timber, he uses the same two guitar settings for everything and it's probably a similar drum kit and bass setup.

The songs drift between aimless and tight far more than EGN. The lyrics are less silly too. He forces words to conform to his rhythm on this album, rather than choosing words based on how they fit his songs like he did occasionally on the last one.

albert_bass 11-01-2007 09:38 AM

I don't feel what's so wrong with the drums either. I think it has to be with the drums on EGN being so ****ing awesome. Really, drumming in the first album was jaw dropping. Maybe that's why people complain about drumming in SiB so much.

Anyways I'm not a drummer, maybe one could explain us what they feel is wrong.

SkaRobotArmy 11-01-2007 09:54 AM

yea, it's a different drummer than the one who recorded EGN i believe so thats why. but its just that the playing isn't as awesome, its their low level in the mix just makes it feel less raw and energetic.

AIRIC 11-01-2007 01:17 PM

Yeah the drums are way further underneath everything else.

albert_bass 11-01-2007 06:57 PM

Well so far those opinions feel totally biased. I mean, the drums are low = the drums are bad? So what if they are low? It's not like they make the record sound any worse. The bass was very low in EGN and that didn't take away any awesomeness to it (the bass nor the whole album). Seriously, someone could give me a valid reason of why the drumming sucks in SiB?

SkaRobotArmy 11-01-2007 07:06 PM

it doesn't suck. he's still got great beats but thats all they are, just beats. in the first album they were more than that i could listen to the whole album and just listen to the drums.
but i agree about the bass, i think so far its louder on this one.

AIRIC 11-01-2007 07:36 PM

Yeah the drums aren't bad they just dont sound as good as they did before. They don't stand out.

albert_bass 11-02-2007 08:21 AM

Yeah well I completely agree with that. The drumming in EGN was more than great. It's just that seeing some comments here it made me think I wasn't getting something because some people said the drums suck in SiB.

Transient 11-02-2007 08:24 AM

Yeah, they don't suck, they're just lower in the mix than they were in EGN, and the drumming was part of what made EGN so awesome.

The Receiving End of It All is so fu[size=2]cking awesome[/size].

Surtr 11-02-2007 02:17 PM

Hmm, being a drummer I'll back up that yeah, they're not as high in the mix, which is usually done to try and hide some of the "boringness" of them, but seriously, it's some decent playing, just not as active. It's just not all together as musical as the previous album.

But FAR from sucking.

DougJI 11-02-2007 05:47 PM

The fade in intro of One foot in the gas is a reversed guitar, there is a quiet cymbal hit at the very beginning as well.

yah. i donno, i felt the need to proclaim this.

Kithkin 11-03-2007 09:03 PM

Beung a non-drummer, I thought they sounded better than on EGN.

sweboy 11-03-2007 09:05 PM

omg omg the new album is finally out?

albert_bass 11-04-2007 07:07 AM

[QUOTE=Sweboy;15494963]omg omg the new album is finally out?[/QUOTE]

It's not out, but it leaked.

Jessizzle 11-04-2007 08:12 AM

the more i listen, the more i love it..

today i was listening, while reading the lyrics, and it made me like it so much more aswell..

real love grows over time!

albert_bass 11-04-2007 10:23 AM

That's happening to me as well. I'm at the point where everytime I listen to the album, I like it more than the last one.

Surtr 11-04-2007 10:39 AM

Mhm, I'd agree. It's some sweet s[I]hi[/I]t, that's for sure.

Anarcho Poser 11-04-2007 11:13 AM

For me, it was love at first listen.

*swoon*

albert_bass 11-04-2007 11:31 AM

I loved it at first listen but I love it more and more everytime.

Aficionado 11-04-2007 12:17 PM

Ya the drumming was really great on EGN, but I imagine there's gonna be differences in the musicianship considering the change in band members over the past 4 and a half years. How's the bass this time around, seeing as I am a bassist.

Henrik 11-04-2007 03:41 PM

What is the exact line-up for this album?

Is there anyone besides Tomas that figures on both the new one as well as EGN?

I can't think of any other band that has changed their line-up in the same manner that Streetlight has.

obese_breasts 11-04-2007 03:58 PM

According to wikipedia the trombone player has been in the band for both albums, but other than that I don't think so

Aficionado 11-04-2007 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=Henrik;15498241]What is the exact line-up for this album?

Is there anyone besides Tomas that figures on both the new one as well as EGN?

I can't think of any other band that has changed their line-up in the same manner that Streetlight has.[/QUOTE]

It's common in a lot of ska bands.

albert_bass 11-04-2007 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Aficianado;15497323]Ya the drumming was really great on EGN, but I imagine there's gonna be differences in the musicianship considering the change in band members over the past 4 and a half years. How's the bass this time around, seeing as I am a bassist.[/QUOTE]

I haven't assimilated it (if you know what I mean) as much as the bass in EGN, but it's easier to listen and there's some awesome lines too. They feel quite similar except this time you can hear it all the time without too much problems. You know the kind of parts when you hear horns and guitar with distortion first and then the same horns but ska-ish guitar and a totally crazy bass line? I mean like in That'll be the day. Well, it's in here too.

DougJI 11-04-2007 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=Henrik;15498241]What is the exact line-up for this album?

Is there anyone besides Tomas that figures on both the new one as well as EGN?

I can't think of any other band that has changed their line-up in the same manner that Streetlight has.[/QUOTE]

after the initial hecticness the band calmed down quite a bit...
quoting an old post i made in this thread...

[QUOTE]Stuart Karmatz left and was replaced by Paul Lowndes
Jim Conti took the place of Pete Sibilia.
Paul Lowndes left so Chris Thatcher joined the band as his replacement, and has been with Streetlight ever since.
On the album, Jamie Egan played both trumpet and trombone, but as he would not be able to do this live Mike Soprano joined on trombone.

Josh Ansley announced his departure to pursue an acting career. Chris Paszik performed in his place.

Egan left to spend more time with his family and concentrate on his music teaching job at North Brunswick High School in North Brunswick, New Jersey. Delano Bonner came in to play trumpet.

Dan Ross had planned to leave after the The Ska Is Dead 2 to pursue a business career, and was forced to leave early just before the end of the tour due to a family crisis. He has been replaced by Mike Brown.

Sometime between December 3, 2006 and July 3rd, 2007, Delano Bonner left the band. Sometime before the recording of Streetlight's new untitled album, Matt Stewart took over Delano's spot at trumpet.

(In order of departure)

1. Stuart Karmatz - Drums (no reason given)
2. Pete Sibilia - Tenor Saxophone (no reason given)
3. Paul Lowndes - Drums (left? no reason given)
4. Josh Ansley - Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals (acting career)
5. Jamie Egan - Trumpet/Trombone (family and teaching job)
6. Dan Ross - Alto and Baritone Saxophone (business career/family crisis)
7. Chris Paszik - Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals (not even mentioned)
8. Delano Bonner - Trumpet (no reason given)


Matt Stewart on trumpet (Joined July 2007)
Mike Brown on alto and baritone saxophone (May 2005)
Jim Conti on alto and tenor saxophone (was on EGN)
Tomas Kalnoky on guitar and vocals (was on EGN)
Pete McCullaugh on the bass guitar (????)
Mike Soprano on trombone (was on original touring lineup)
Chris Thatcher on drums (was on original touring lineup)

So I mean the only real changes in the past few years have been Matt Stewart, Pete McCullaugh and (2 years previous) Mike Brown. Everyone else has been around since EGN/their first tour.

Id probably put it on something to do with the horn players not being able to live off of what they were getting paid because Tomas writes all the song (little if any portion of album sales)
Streetlight isn't huge.
They support their own tours and recording and whatnot.

Plus I'd have to say I might be a little ticked if I didn't make the kind of money I was expecting... It's always about money.[/QUOTE]

Aficionado 11-04-2007 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=albert_bass;15498569]I haven't assimilated it (if you know what I mean) as much as the bass in EGN, but it's easier to listen and there's some awesome lines too. They feel quite similar except this time you can hear it all the time without too much problems. You know the kind of parts when you hear horns and guitar with distortion first and then the same horns but ska-ish guitar and a totally crazy bass line? I mean like in That'll be the day. Well, it's in here too.[/QUOTE]

I think the bass work on Failing Flailing is top-notch


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