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The Feeding 06-09-2009 06:45 PM

this page is amazing

RetiredAt21 06-09-2009 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Si1v3RfaNg;17288609]Hey do you guys like brodowns!!!???[/QUOTE]

Do you?

The Feeding 06-09-2009 06:47 PM

can't find the link for that video, anybody hook a brother up?

RetiredAt21 06-09-2009 06:48 PM

It's on the previous page I think.

The Feeding 06-09-2009 06:52 PM

yeah i found it, it diddn't work at first

SadButTrue 06-09-2009 07:16 PM

I really love Christian Metalcore. Its one of my favoirte sub genres of Metalcore because you got bands like.

As I lay Dying
The Devil Wears Prada
August Burns Red
Oh, Sleeper
War of Ages
Destroy the Runner
Haste the Day
Blessthefall (kind of)
Underoath
Becoming the Archetype
The Chariot
Demon Hunter
Mychildren Mybride
Norma Jean

The list goes on. :p

The Feeding 06-09-2009 07:22 PM

check out For Today, i like them but lost a lot of respect when i saw them live and tried to be preachy and cram religion down everyone's throats

Bleekill 06-09-2009 11:15 PM

Listen to Zao at least. Bless the Fall, Underoath and The Devil Wears Prada are disgusting.

On another subject, How about Pulling Teeth? They are closer to proto-metalcore I guess. Metallic Hardcore became metalcore. I like the new album.

hismajestythepope 06-09-2009 11:18 PM

Underoath is awesome dude, Zao on the other hand is terrible, stop failing so hard.

NortherlyNanook 06-09-2009 11:37 PM

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289504]On another subject, How about Pulling Teeth? They are closer to proto-metalcore I guess. Metallic Hardcore became metalcore. I like the new album.[/QUOTE]

i would feel very off about calling them metalcore, but yeah, the new album is definitely sick.

thomasj12e34 06-09-2009 11:40 PM

listened to new it dies today, better then catiff choir

hismajestythepope 06-09-2009 11:44 PM

i disagree

caitiff choir has the poppy songs with a lot of clean singing, but if you skip those, the heavy stuff is all in all better than the new one

plus, defeatism man, that song is awesome

Bleekill 06-09-2009 11:45 PM

Whatever, Zao is actually relevent, they actually put out good albums. They have good live shows. They got me into extreme music. So ****, I love them. Underoath on the other hand is the true fail. Lets compare lyrics.

MYYyyyyyy KNUCKLES HAVE TURNED TO WHIIIITE SO KISS ME ONE LAST TIIIIME!

JESUUUUUUUS IM READY TO COOOOME HOOME!
- Underoath

"Open your mouth, boy
Just to swallow your teeth
I will not pay the price for your self-inflicted grief
My meekness lies there shivering and raped
Trembling prophet
Anointed wrath of God incarnate

Cutting and tearing dissection
Strangled and hanging before me
Weeping and screaming become you
Carry out your suffering"
- Zao
Now lets compare vocalists.
Dan from Zao
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/Zao_US_band.jpg[/IMG]
Spencer from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/uo_bhamspencer.jpg[/IMG]
Aaron from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/l_98d031089d908e47f52cc420afd6c2c0.jpg[/IMG]


Dan could wipe the floor with both of them lol. Musically, Zao is much more abrasive and powerful, more my style. This is my opinion. You can keep defening underoath, Zao annihilates them. They came before, they pioneered, they are superior musically.

McP3000 06-09-2009 11:47 PM

i agree with everything bleekill said

zao rule...well their discography is a little bit up and down, but overall solid stuff

nevertoolate 06-09-2009 11:55 PM

Enjoying the new Coalesce..........

Tyler 06-09-2009 11:57 PM

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289568]Whatever, Zao is actually relevent, they actually put out good albums. They have good live shows. They got me into extreme music. So ****, I love them. Underoath on the other hand is the true fail.

Dan could wipe the floor with both of them lol. Musically, Zao is much more abrasive and powerful, more my style. This is my opinion. You can keep defening underoath, Zao annihilates them. They came before, they pioneered, they are superior musically.[/QUOTE]

Okay. Firstly, Underoath have released at least three albums better than anything Zao has ever done. I like Zao, both old Zao and new fake-Zao, but they've been releasing the same album for over a decade. Secondly, comparing lyrics is pointless. Neither band writes anything but average lyrics. Thirdly, Zao didn't pioneer ****.

McP3000 06-10-2009 12:00 AM

well they're arguably the first big christian metalcore band

and lol at the statement "Underoath have released at least three albums better than anything Zao has ever done"

Tyler 06-10-2009 12:04 AM

Well it's true. You could throw all of Zao's albums into a hat and no matter what you pick out you're getting the same level of quality. Granted they've probably never released anything as terrible as They're Only Chasing Safety or Act of Depression, but I digress.

hismajestythepope 06-10-2009 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289568]Whatever, Zao is actually relevent,[/quote]
how is underoath irrelevant?

[quote]they actually put out good albums.[/quote]
one good album

[quote]They have good live shows.[/quote]
theyre kind of boring live

[quote]They got me into extreme music. So ****, I love them.[/quote]
cool

[quote]Underoath on the other hand is the true fail.[/quote]
lol k

[quote]Lets compare lyrics.

MYYyyyyyy KNUCKLES HAVE TURNED TO WHIIIITE SO KISS ME ONE LAST TIIIIME!

JESUUUUUUUS IM READY TO COOOOME HOOME!
- Underoath [/quote]

short segments taken out of context, nice

lets go with the second one shall we?

i heard a voice through the discord
a deluge of passer's by
and i saw one gaze frozen in time
watching me pass it by
and i'll see your face in the crowd
and i'll hear your voice aloud, when you're whispering

hey unfaithful, i will teach you to be stronger
hey ungraceful, i will teach you to forgive one another

here's my kiss to betray
desperate to brush the lips of grace
do you feel hollow, when you think of how i lied?
and o' sweet angel of mercy, with your grace like the morning
wrap your loving arms around me

/chorus

and jesus i'm ready to come home

hey unfaithful, hey ungraceful, hey unloving
i will love you

SUCH MEANINGLESS STUPID LYRICS

[quote]"Open your mouth, boy
Just to swallow your teeth
I will not pay the price for your self-inflicted grief
My meekness lies there shivering and raped
Trembling prophet
Anointed wrath of God incarnate

Cutting and tearing dissection
Strangled and hanging before me
Weeping and screaming become you
Carry out your suffering"
- Zao[/quote]

k, those lyrics are kind of boring and forced rhymey

[quote]Now lets compare vocalists.
Dan from Zao
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/Zao_US_band.jpg[/IMG]

Spencer from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/uo_bhamspencer.jpg[/IMG]
Aaron from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/l_98d031089d908e47f52cc420afd6c2c0.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Now let's compare their voices.

Dan, generic rasps, no range.

Spencer extremely distinct and powerful, great range too, and he can sing.

Aaron, his vocals grow on you, or they grew on me.

Also, Dallas > Spencer > Dan

[quote]Dan could wipe the floor with both of them lol.[/quote]
both sound better.

[quote]Musically, Zao is much more abrasive and powerful, [B]more my style.This is my opinion.[/b][/quote]
very good. your opinion is also a bit over-the-top in regards too underoath

[quote]You can keep defening underoath[/quote]
and i will, with valid points

[quote]Zao annihilates them.[/quote]
old underoath is similar to old zao, but less monotonous

[quote]They came before, they pioneered[/quote]
doesn't make them any less boring

[quote]they are superior musically.[/QUOTE]
i disagree, i'll just go with drumming alone, since that's underoath's only fundamentally strong point other than vocals.

hismajestythepope 06-10-2009 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17289611]Well it's true. You could throw all of Zao's albums into a hat and no matter what you pick out you're getting the same level of quality. Granted they've probably never released anything as terrible as They're Only Chasing Safety or Act of Depression, but I digress.[/QUOTE]
They're Only Chasing Safety is awesome, it's like Taking Back Sunday meets Thursday with badass vocals.


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