[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Good day to all of you. Well, it has happened. The big moment has arrived. I have decided to start saving, because tentatively starting on the 2 January 2006, for around 2-3 weeks, I, along with my beautiful girl friend Eleese, will be going to England! Yes, all you UK R&Mers - I can finally meet you face to face! :eek:

We have no set schedule yet, this is not part of a tour, we are simply flying to Heathrow Airport in London, making our own way around the countryside for a few weeks, and then flying back to Sydney, then back up to Cairns. As such, there is limitless possibilties to see all of you guys. And if Jelle wants to make a channel trip, he can.

So, since we are going to try to figure out a plan of travel in the next few months, anyone who wants to meet up can email @ [email]HeavyRiva@gmail.com[/email] me there approx location, etc, and any tips for cheap accomodation in their area, best places to eat, the works.

Well, cannot wait. Gonna start saving as of today, so bye bye CD buys for a while. :)[/QUOTE]


Bumping this for the new page. Let's hope the Englishmen see it now. Also, work is really terrible. Avoid a job if you can.

Channel Trip, eh.

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Bumping this for the new page. Let's hope the Englishmen see it now. Also, work is really terrible. Avoid a job if you can.[/QUOTE]
alright!

come to Northumberland and see the roman wall!

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]123

IF anyone plans to visit the craphole known as Washington, hit me up. :p


(This is sarcasm, since Washington is like the most uber sucky state on the planet, minus Wyoming.)[/QUOTE]

We have a Washington here in England too, actually.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]
I've read through the rules, but there seem to be a lot of future bureaucrats on MX. I fear they'll find some technicality.[/QUOTE]

There's a clause in the Pit rules, which applies to all the forums really (it just isn't written in all of their rules, usefully) which says "this is not a court of law. We won't let you off on a technicality." We won't find you guilty on a technicality either; if you make a thread that's technically in the rules as not allowed, but is somehow novel and good, it probably won't be closed.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]
I would be down for a FG on rap/hip-hop. Only question is how well it will be recieved on a metalhead-dominated forum.[/QUOTE]

I think it'd be accepted well enough, as an FG. There are enough decent users who'd recognise the worth of such a thread, and would argue with actual reasons rather than "rap sucks, it's all just talking". Besides which, anyone who did do that could just be banned :)

[QUOTE=Riva]Good day to all of you. Well, it has happened. The big moment has arrived. I have decided to start saving, because tentatively starting on the 2 January 2006, for around 2-3 weeks, I, along with my beautiful girl friend Eleese, will be going to England! Yes, all you UK R&Mers - I can finally meet you face to face! :eek:

We have no set schedule yet, this is not part of a tour, we are simply flying to Heathrow Airport in London, making our own way around the countryside for a few weeks, and then flying back to Sydney, then back up to Cairns. As such, there is limitless possibilties to see all of you guys. And if Jelle wants to make a channel trip, he can.

So, since we are going to try to figure out a plan of travel in the next few months, anyone who wants to meet up can email @ [email]HeavyRiva@gmail.com[/email] me there approx location, etc, and any tips for cheap accomodation in their area, best places to eat, the works.

Well, cannot wait. Gonna start saving as of today, so bye bye CD buys for a while. :)[/QUOTE]

Cool. You really could buy a lot of CDs for how much it'll all cost :) Worth it to see our wonderful country though, I suppose.. Hope it all comes together.

[quote='Tender]
Cool. You really could buy a lot of CDs for how much it'll all cost :) Worth it to see our wonderful country though, I suppose.. Hope it all comes together.[/QUOTE]

I'm gathering from your conversation on MSN that you would rather remain anonymous?

[QUOTE=Oliver]alright!

come to Northumberland and see the roman wall![/QUOTE]

I want to see Hadrian's Wall, yes. :D

[QUOTE=Jelly Belly]Channel Trip, eh.[/QUOTE]

Suck it up, you big girl.

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]
I want to see Hadrian's Wall, yes. :D
[/QUOTE]
sweet! we'll have to meet up, I live like a mile from there :p

Well, I do plan on meeting all the R&M regulars that live in the UK, of course. :)

*Puts hand up*
I live in the UK!
Where are you going over here, and when?

i can just see it now...

"Jason/Riva U.K tour '06"
coming to a pub near you!

I'm Dream Theater - Live At Budokan dvd at the weekend :)
Me is excited. :)

Craig, I posted the info a bit further up the page. Basically, I'll be going everywhere in England, provided I have the money to afford accomodation.

[QUOTE]Craig, I posted the info a bit further up the page. Basically, I'll be going everywhere in England, provided I have the money to afford accomodation.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you know my name...:D

But the only problem with that is I live in Liverpool, quite north from Heathrow, and all of London.

(Maps coming up, stay tuned)

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Craig, I posted the info a bit further up the page. Basically, I'll be going everywhere in England, provided I have the money to afford accomodation.[/QUOTE]
do you have a youth hostel membership? because its cheap staying there, although i think even if you aren't a member youi can still stay, its just £1.50 a night more or something.
theres a hostel in my village, which is 12 miles or so from hadrian's wall (i'm at the same school as lord abortion)
northumberland isn't really a nice place to be if it rains, so if you're gonna visit here you'd better bring the sunshine with you :lol:
and i can recommend B&B at a nice pub where i work, but it costs quite a bit.

[QUOTE=sack-man]northumberland isn't really a nice place to be if it rains, so if you're gonna visit here you'd better bring the sunshine with you :lol:
.[/QUOTE]
imagine the problems getting it through customs...

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]Wow, you know my name...:D

[/QUOTE]
Riva know's everyone's name
:suspicious:

Ali, you reckon Riva should visit Scotland? i don't know exactly where you live but he could do northern england then scotland.

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Well, I do plan on meeting all the R&M regulars that live in the UK, of course. :)[/QUOTE]

/me prepares eggs.

[SIZE=5]
Eggs of celebration[/SIZE]

well, home time, i'll probably post later. bye all :wave:

[QUOTE=sack-man]Ali, you reckon Riva should visit Scotland? i don't know exactly where you live but he could do northern england then scotland.[/QUOTE]
That all depends. If I end up at uni In Manchester I'll be down there so Riva wouldn't need to very north to find me.
But if I end up in Stirling then yes, yes he should.

(and for the record I live in Livingston; [url=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/atouchofgenius/Scotland.jpg]Here[/url])

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]/me prepares eggs.

[SIZE=5]
Eggs of celebration[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
ugh! eggs...

Not just any eggs though...

I can see a Riva visit being on pope proportions.

I'm hoping eggs of celebration are made of chocolate? :)

So, e-mail me your approximate locations, and I will make a mark on the map of england I have in my atlas. :)

I hope to have the itinery worked out by the end of May.

Just put a big pin in the slap bang middle of England for my location. Though im not sure where ill be by the end of the year, if job hunting goes well

[URL=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/superpeer/Bassgirl.jpg]Isn't this a sexy bass? ;)[/URL]

GG Foriegn Language MSN.

Nice bass, is she any good?

Who cares? :lol:


*Foreign


EDIT; maybe that's not very nice, she's pretty good. :)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Just put a big pin in the slap bang middle of England for my location. Though im not sure where ill be by the end of the year, if job hunting goes well[/QUOTE]

Birmingham, is it?

/reads through thread

I really don't see why this discussion of spamming, feeling that one is or isn't a "useful... productive poster," etc., and all that other crap is still going on. It was discussed and should be dealt with. It is really not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

Don't you think that the thread is a hell of a lot better now than it has been? I can come back at any point over the course of 24 hours, and see that, at a maximum, I have to read five pages to see what's going on.

There were two instances when the thread reached a new page in less than ten minutes. That was fuc[font=]king ridiculous. People bitch about the AIM chat because "it moves too fast to my liking." Well, you have to reach a compromise somewhere down the line, because nobody owns this thread, so it can be easily shut down, closed, and forgotten about. Would spam increase in other areas? Likely, but that's the price people pay. Destiny is calling... uh, nevermind :p

Anyways, I'm glad Yogi brought it up. I like not having to go back ten pages in the morning to see posts of:

OMFG HI2U
OMG HI2U BACK
Sup thread
:wave:
STFU, ur gae amirite?
omg ursorite
I no Imrite
[decent topic to discuss]
Meh, take it to Politics/Other music/the chat/etc.
STFU fag
... and so on.

Finally, the thread is starting to reach a point where someone will post a topic, and everyone reads it, it's just that people are finally exhibiting some self-control and realizing that they can't put in an empty one-liner just so they think everyone will recognize that he/she posted. Everyone is guilty of that. People like seeing that you responded to something, but if you don't have anything decent to say at all, then that opens the door for empty, pointless postcount increases. It's basically less severe than spamming the other forums, like Mind Revolution and sociallyimpaired do. They think it doesn't go undetected, but oh yeah, they'll have their postcount reset or face a ban. It's just that the mods don't care about things like that.

After talking with a few people, it's obvious that the state of the thread began deteriorating with the implementation of rep and the whoring that ensued. I remember the early stages of the first thread, when people like Rob were posting. I then took a hiatus, but then was invited back, and then the thread just started bottoming out. Now that we have rep v.2.0, things are nowhere near as painful as before.

What's sad is that people like me surpassed a lot of the regulars in the old thread (Bobo, for instance) because at least half of any posting that these people have done was in the community thread. It's disappointing when the original regular members don't have the desire to post here anymore because any visits they have, they see spamming and substanceless discussion. You can't tell me that when it takes less than ten minutes to reach a new page, that it's not spam.

With all this discussion, people are getting increasingly pissy. Just relax, this place doesn't own your soul. A lot of things are out of your control. Make due with what you have, and just accept the negative things. Yeah, I get annoyed by a lot of the sporadic posters here who are attention whores (you know who I'm alluding to, think of a user whose username is mispelled). They post here, and people ignore them. It's really not that big of a deal. The discussion that warrants discussion will be talked about, and that will be the end of it.

Most of the people don't post or don't post as much now because they don't know what it's like to have an influx of new members spamming the hell out of something they instituted.

Someone has mentioned to me in passing via AIM that a lot of us know each other pretty well, then all these masses of people come in and think it's a place to spam. I have to agree.

I don't think any of us have our qualms about a big community. I'm also very glad that most people are beginning to exhibit some self-control.

It's just that some posters need to think more about what they are posting. If it's mindless (example: no one cares that you have to seek counseling because you're fuc[/font]ked up, so stop repeating it), then don't post it. If you have something positive to contribute (and there is such thing as positive spam in my eyes), then post it. You shouldn't have to think, "Oh, I shouldn't post this, but I'm going to do it anyway." Instead, I'm beginning to feel that people are starting to take peoples' wishes for less spam and more constructive posting seriously, and that's fantastic. Not every post has to be a friggin' essay, but at least have substance.

One thing that I notice and am guilty of is that when people enter the chat, they usually say hello, and maybe something else. That's not a problem, but then a whole bunch of people feel the need to say hello back, and at the very most, post a follow-up question. You don't have to lose the feeling of a community, just keep the crap out with the one-line "Hello :wave:" posts.

The worst argument that I absolutely hate to see is the "This is off-topic discussion, we can post what we want." No. Pitiful argument.

Also, just stop it with the "Oh, my posting has been challenged by the community, everyone's pointing the finger at me" horsesh[font=]it. Stop whining. Apparently nobody picked up in the last thread that I was mocking people who say this, so let me be very direct: if you took that seriously, well, I don't know how to respond to that.[/font]

In essence, I'm glad that things are progressing towards a healthier community. Yeah, there will still be the sporadic idiot posters, but again, they can be ignored. However, if the thread starts regressing towards a spamfest, I would be all for deleting not only this thread, but the first one as well, as opposed to closing them and keeping the posts. Just stop whining about how you think everyone's out to get you. No one is questioning your integrity, we're all trying to be on the same page, so seriously, just stop taking what people say about you on a friggin' Internet forum to heart so much.

And with that, I'll conclude my catching up with the thread. Sup.

:applause for the Li' Jim:

Well said, man. Well said. Have you considered moving to England? ;)

Also, sorry about stepping on your toes when it came to the YSI uploads thread.

So, anything interesting happen to anyone in the past few days? I feel bad about monopolising the conversation for two pages. :-/

Nice post :) Though I think it killed the thread for a little bit.

[url]http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3G4MODCR6W4WK2135OWMTT7UTM[/url]

Uploaded this for a different thread entirely, but I might as well post it here too.

[QUOTE=Riva]
I'm gathering from your conversation on MSN that you would rather remain anonymous?[/QUOTE]

I don't know..it's not that I specifically don't want to meet you, I'm just weird. So I don't yet know :-/

[QUOTE=Superpeer][URL=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/superpeer/Bassgirl.jpg]Isn't this a sexy bass? ;)[/URL][/QUOTE]
Tis indeed, although most girls go for learning the bass, what's up with that?

I'm weird too. But I wouldn't mind seeing you guys, but I'm just not a very outgoing person, I wouldn't say much.


NP: Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (Yes :eek: )

[QUOTE=firecrackercheese]Tis indeed, although most girls go for learning the bass, what's up with that?[/QUOTE]

Bass = Guitar for girls.


[URL=http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1S6KCAU3DR9UB33JDDN7UY6BQ1 ]Finntroll - Trollhammaren[/URL]

Upload for Bartender and anyone else who wants to hear one of the catchiest songs ever.

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Riva know's everyone's name
:suspicious:[/QUOTE]
I suppose you could say "He gets around" :p

Eh, but yeah...My comp crashed before, I'm still looking for maps of Liverpool, can't seem to find anything.
PLUS: I got a nice Black Sabbath Greatest Hits Guitar Tab book today, and a chrome slide, I love my bottle neck one, but this one is great :cool:

Liverpool, eh. My flatmate lives in Widnes. Gone back there tonight actually, for a gig.

He also bought a new guitar recently. I think he has five now :-/

Yeah I need to get a slide, I'm currently using a Zippo lighter as one. You can create some really cool effects with it, but its not a very good slide.

Five guitars...waha...

I have like 3 acoustics, but a lot of them need re-stringing, I have my strat which is my "experimental guitar" which is in random tunings, sometimes whichever letters I can think of ("FADBAD" etc) and my Les Paul, which I absolutley love...That's usually in standard tuning, and I always use this for gigs.

And I went out today, I saw an absolute beauty, 12 string Yamaha...I did well not to buy it, cheap as hell, only £80 actually.

But yeah, no jokes about Liverpool :upset:.


Pigonthewing:
How would you go about using a Zippo lighter as a slide? Unless your guitar is acoustic, I'd be incredibly careful about the overall finnish, a zippo lighter could really do some damage.

AND, I would post a picture of my two slides, one is litterally a neck of a broken green bottle, it's (well, was) my uncle's, and is older than me :p . The other is a Chrome Dunlop bright tone. Cheap, but it does the trick.

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]Five guitars...waha...[/QUOTE]

Well, two electric guitars, one acoustic/electric, and two bass guitars (one five-string, one four-string).

[QUOTE=IAJP]And I went out today, I saw an absolute beauty, 12 string Yamaha...I did well not to buy it, cheap as hell, only £80 actually.[/QUOTE]

His latest one cost £400 :-/

[QUOTE=IAJP]But yeah, no jokes about Liverpool :upset:.[/QUOTE]

Aww :(

[QUOTE=Bartender]Well, two electric guitars, one acoustic/electric, and two bass guitars (one five-string, one four-string).[/QUOTE]I've always wanted to try a 5 string bass, there are a few reasons I could never get one though:
I don't have enough money to throw away at an instrument I'm not that good at, and don't play primarrily.
I already have a 4 string bass, allthough not very good, it has a decent(ish) range of sounds.
I can play my bassist's for free :p.

[QUOTE=Bartender]His latest one cost £400 :-/[/QUOTE]
Wow, flashing the cash eh? Do you know what specific model he got? Was it Electrocousic or just Electric?

[QUOTE=Bartender]Aww:([/QUOTE]
I know, I know.
<insert Harry Enfield sketch here>
I pretty much get it all the time, Liverpool isn't a bad place...If you're local that is, if you were from Manchester and came here strutting your stuff, chances are...

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]
Pigonthewing:
How would you go about using a Zippo lighter as a slide? Unless your guitar is acoustic, I'd be incredibly careful about the overall finnish, a zippo lighter could really do some damage.[/QUOTE]

Nah you just use it as a regular slide only you have to hold it down with your finger so its not as easy to use. A couple people in the 60's did it, like Syd Barrett, you can use the Zippo to get really cool effects out of it too.