It's amazing. Not in this thread though.

Sorry, I tend to lump them in since they tour with a lot of metalcore bands.

new album was in daily upload but since they are melo-death with meatlcore influences i think we could possably mention them...

[QUOTE]they are melo-death with meatlcore influences i think we could possably mention them...[/QUOTE]
No they are just melodeath.

You are the biggest Genre Nazi ever.

No, I'm the biggest logical solution nazi ever. There is not hardcore so therefore there is not metalcore so therefore they are melodic death metal.

That's not true. They most definatly have metalcore influences.

Maybe pre-Undoing Ruin there's some hardcore influence but not really since. Most people who say that don't listen to hardcore, so their opinion is null and void.

Well, Undoing Ruin still has a hardcore influence, but if Metalcore wasn't this big gothenburg style, then I guess it wouldn't be considered metalcore.

Where's the hardcore influence? And since when is Metalcore a "gothenburg" style? Most the bands with the gothenburg influence are actually just death metal bands, so once again, they're just melodeath.

well why not talk abotu darkest hour in the melo-death thread i made?

anyway, doesn't anyone esle hate the fact that the scene kids are liking metalcore now so now we're gettign a bunch of rip-offs just trying to make the scenesters happy and get some cheap money?

why not talk about them in the death metal thread which you know you can talk about melo death in there just in case you didnt now

enc why are you complaining about scene kids when you are one

I think scene kids have liked metalcore for a couple of years now.

i'm not a scene kid, i'm so far from scene that i'm my own scene

lol what is your scene called?

E-N-C RPRZNT!

lols

fission mailed FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: my scene is called
F*** the generic a$$holes

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14829135]Where's the hardcore influence? And since when is Metalcore a "gothenburg" style? Most the bands with the gothenburg influence are actually just death metal bands, so once again, they're just melodeath.[/QUOTE]

As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, All That Remains to a certain extent, are all undoubtedly metalcore, yet rely heavily on Gothenburg riffing.

[QUOTE=hottiebassplayer;14829311]As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, All That Remains to a certain extent, are all undoubtedly metalcore, yet rely heavily on Gothenburg riffing.[/QUOTE]

I think what he means is you can have Gothenberg style guitars and not be metalcore, but you can be metalcore and have Gothenberg style guitars.

Uhhh, yeah. Somethin like that.

Good lord this has to be the stupidest thread there is.

What was the point of that? Anyway...

If we consider It Dies Today metalcore then we have to consider FATA metalcore. They are pretty similar.

[QUOTE=hottiebassplayer;14829992]What was the point of that? Anyway...

If we consider It Dies Today metalcore then we have to consider FATA metalcore. They are pretty similar.[/QUOTE]

Ehhh....It Dies Today are a lot more generic IMO and FATA actually have catchy songs as opposed to just catchy song titles like "Freak Gasoline Fight Accident".

Yeah, but you have to admit that they do sound similar, at least enough to undoubtadly label FATA metalcore.

[QUOTE=hottiebassplayer;14830192]Yeah, but you have to admit that they do sound similar, at least enough to undoubtadly label FATA metalcore.[/QUOTE]

I dont mind calling them metalcore, but I wont say they sound alike, sorry!

Hmm, whatever. Opinons differ from person to person.

Lets us be honest her, FATA is pretty terrible no matter what genre they're in.

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant;14831634]Lets us be honest her, FATA is pretty terrible no matter what genre they're in.[/QUOTE]

Truth.

No, they're not terrible, their decent, and I like thier new album. I won't say their anything more though.

[QUOTE=hottiebassplayer;14833616]No, they're not terrible, their decent, and I like thier new album. I won't say their anything more though.[/QUOTE]

I still like them a lot, its kind of a loyalty thing since they are one of the first bands of that genre that I really got into back in '01.

I just listened to Hopesfall's The Satellite Years on my way to work, while they aren't really metalcore anymore, they were back in the day and this album is amazing.

FATA is good music.

They were ever metalcore. @Hopesfall

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14839235]They were ever metalcore. @Hopesfall[/QUOTE]

"The Frailty Of Words" was metalcore, they got more artsy hardcore and post-rock i guess is what they are now.

I never got into Hopesfall. What a gay name.

yuck.

Hopesfall has never been metalcore. They were post hardcore on Frailty Of Words and No Wings To Speak Of.

And if you haven't heard No Wings To Speak Of your opinion on Hopesfall is not valid. That ep crushes any other post hardcore recording of all time. Too bad everything else Hopesfall has done is mediocre.

Says the guy who willingly listens to FATA @hawtie

Me?

See edit. I like Hopesfall's [I]Satellite Years[/I] to a degree.