I too was once a rap hater, but, due to the combination of how awesome the base sounds on my friends subs and the way that one of the members of outkast always thanked the good lord himself first and foremost at each of the numerous awards he received. Up until then i had pretty much the same opinions as Mr. Walking stereotype up there. But as i said, i'm comin around.

I too was once a rap hater, but, due to the combination of how awesome the base sounds on my friends subs and the way that one of the members of outkast always thanked the good lord himself first and foremost at each of the numerous awards he received. Up until then i had pretty much the same opinions as Mr. Walking stereotype up there. But as i said, i'm comin around.

[QUOTE=Shootothrill]Dude, didn't that guy put out like 5 records AFTER he died?
:confused:[/QUOTE]

I think its more like 13 now.

Thanks, ATM. :)

I agree entirely with the thread starter.

Flip the coin around and fans of rap could pigeon-hole metal and say its all about slaying dragons or working for satan or whatever, castrating goats, slitting their wrists because of teenage angst and depression who all walk around in black with a pale complection on their faces. Or go on about prog bands sing about flowers and the trees and the earth.

However, fans of these genres know it isn't all like that. That's mainly what goes on in the mainstream. Its the same with rap. I don't judge metal by Slipknot or Limp Bizkit, so why should you judge the whole of the rap genre on someone like Chingy, Nelly or 50 Cent?

I notice a lot of people in rock also worry about the technicality of the instrumentalists and the fact they play instruments. A lot of rap groups are backed by jazz groups, which is arguably much more complicated than rock music.

Also who says a group of musicians must consist of guitar, bass, drums and maybe a keyboardist. Its formulas like these that annoy me the most, and rock fans reckoning they are more hardcore because they listen to rock. You're just the same lame trend follower just listening to rock and wearing the clothes to fit in with your peers and the same old cliches. It's a normal human thing to do to fit into groups which applies to all genres.

And while we are on the subject of rock, if it supposedly is more superior to this radio crap then why don't "average" listeners buy it and only the instrumentalists who apparently "understand" the quality of the music because they are technically proficient on their instruments? You can't blame record companies, MTV or radio either, the customer decides what they listen to. If people didn't like Eminem or Britney or whoever is hot at the moment then people wouldn't buy it, in turn MTV, record companies and record companies would start releasing more records that would suit the public more.

Rant over.

^ I like you.

I didn't like how he went from "you shouldn't judge rap by it's mainstream stereotypes" to "You're just the same lame trend follower just listening to rock and wearing the clothes to fit in with your peers and the same old cliches."

[QUOTE=slashjunior]
Also who says a group of musicians must consist of guitar, bass, drums and maybe a keyboardist.
[/QUOTE]


Definetly. Currently me and my friend are looking for a saxophonist to play in our band, and we play a lot of metal.

[QUOTE=rory_breaker]I think its more like 13 now.[/QUOTE]

and now one with Elton John! I like most of Tupacs work.

I want a vibrophone player in my band.. that'd be hardcore..

**** Rap

[QUOTE=guitar123]**** Rap[/QUOTE]

I know man, rap is like so gay. Its not even music.

I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?

[QUOTE=Tyler]You are a [U]faggot[/U].[/QUOTE]

F*ck you, prick

[QUOTE=The Goth]I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?[/QUOTE]

I suggest you stop slitting your wrists for just a few seconds and actually listen to Rap that doesn't appear on MTV.

See how that works both ways.

A few albums to check out:

Charizma & Peanut Butter Wolf's Big Shots
deadprez - Let's Get Free
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Saul Williams - Saul Williams
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
3rd Bass - Derelicts Of Dialect
Zion I - Deep Water Slang 2.0
Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues
Gang Starr - Moment of Truth
Ice-T - O.G. Original Gangster
The Last Emperor - The Legend of Bigfoot
rjd2 - Loose Ends
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Soul Position - 8 Million Stories
Unknown Prophets - World Premier
Deep Puddle Dynamics - The Taste Of Rain... Why Kneel

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]I suggest you stop slitting your wrists for just a few seconds and actually listen to Rap that doesn't appear on MTV.

See how that works both ways.[/QUOTE]

It's funny because it's true.

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]A few albums to check out:

deadprez - Let's Get Free
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Saul Williams - Saul Williams
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back[/QUOTE]
Singled out the ones that I especially like.

Except Amethyst Rock Star is better than Saul Williams' self-titled, and The Low-End Theory is better than People's Instinctive.....

Hahaha. That 'The Goth' kid is the single worst poster I've ever seen on MX.

[QUOTE=The Goth]I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?[/QUOTE]

Then don't post ITT, fag.

[QUOTE=The Goth]I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?[/QUOTE]

oic

See here laddy, the thing is you havn't even paid attention to what this thread is about. You said exactly what the close minded anti-rap person says. You fail at common sense, goodnight.

meh, rap...

i do like techno tho

[QUOTE=sonicst0rm]meh, rap...

i do like techno tho[/QUOTE]

And the award for the most intelligent post ever goes to...

I didn't read the whole thread, but I love Rap, and I don't know if anyone in this thread is from the bay area, so I got some recommendations. Almost everything I listen to is Underground bay area rap, with the exception of a few:

Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay

Probably a few other too, trying to think of all my CD's.

i hate rap unless its funny.

[url]lohanfreestyle.com[/url]

now thats what rap should me

You're stupid

you got me illmatic.

[QUOTE=Iai]The Low-End Theory is better than People's Instinctive.....[/QUOTE]
And Midnight Marauders is better than The Low End Theory. They're all three greatness tho. :)

Haha. You broke the link even more, and still didn't catch your bad spelling in the third line.

In any case, he was calling you an idiot because you're trapped in a mindset that rap music only has value if it's gimmicky.

[QUOTE=LF96]And Midnight Marauders is better than The Low End Theory. They're all three greatness tho. :)[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard that one. I'll check it out. :)

i used to listen to some rap. then i picked up my dad's led zeppelin 2 album and threw out the 4 or 5 rap cd's i had

Thank you. Your post was a shining beacon of open-mindedness, and has been constructive to this thread. Go give yourself a pat on the back and down a few bleach smoothies.

[QUOTE]Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay[/QUOTE]


exactlyyyyyyyyyyy who i like! i've seen a few of them in concert too. good stuff.
this is the best list ive probably ever seen, i didnt know anybody else on mx listened to this too.
well, that made me happy.
+Jayo Felony.

and people wonder why rock fans...watever type you are get a bad name. Yeah many of us are open minded and give reasoned opinions...but there are sum who are hate mongerers and thats sad cos thats all the commercial world sees of us YOU'RE GIVING US ALL A BAD NAME AND GIVING PEOPLE AN EXCUSE TO HIT OUT AT US ALL.
Personally I see real rap as an artform that I dont personally appreciate, I wont bad mouth it cos i dont like it personally cos thats closed minded, just like they say metal is all noise and shouting (I SHOULD KNOW, I GET IT IN THE NECK FROM MY GF) well thats my rant for today, open your minds. please!

Great post.

Seriously.

[QUOTE=Yngwie Malmsteen]I didn't read the whole thread, but I love Rap, and I don't know if anyone in this thread is from the bay area, so I got some recommendations. Almost everything I listen to is Underground bay area rap, with the exception of a few:

Immortal Technique
Yukmouth
Blacklicious
Andre Nickatina/Dre Dog
Spice 1
X raided
Mr. Doctor
Brotha Lynch
C-Bo
Cougnut
Del TFH
Dr. Octagon
Dru Down
E-40
Equipto
JT the bigga figga
Living Legends
Mac Dre (R.I.P.)
MC Eiht
Rappin 4 Tay

Probably a few other too, trying to think of all my CD's.[/QUOTE]


Out of those I only really like Blackalicious, Dr Octagon, Del, Brotha Lynch Hung and Living Legends.

Still, when talking Bay, you should always mention Souls Of Mischief (and the rest of Hiero), Planet Asia, and Zion I.

Hell, I'm surprised you didn't mention Ant Banks and Too $hort, although I got out of that kind of stuff ages ago.

[QUOTE=The Goth]I will never like rap. I dont see any talent in telling rhymes fast which contain the guy having sex and doing drugs and getting pi$$ed. Theyre all good but why keep speaking to us about it ?[/QUOTE]


Awesome avatar you got there. Honestly, how old are you?

[QUOTE=black\m/metal]exactlyyyyyyyyyyy who i like! i've seen a few of them in concert too. good stuff.
this is the best list ive probably ever seen, i didnt know anybody else on mx listened to this too.
well, that made me happy.
+Jayo Felony.[/QUOTE]


Black metal heads liking Bay area gangster rap is a beautiful sight. Not that I like gangster rap - stopped listening to it when I turned 14 or something. This is just awesome.

ok u nerds. ******s i mean. itsd itme to get jiggi wit it.listen to tupac. or JIN. or RR. they cool. just liek an ice chest

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