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I registered recently and you probably saved me from a thousand flamer posts from other users calling me a n00b lol.....Great list btw :thumb:

another "odd" catagory would be

"humpa metal" as finntroll dafine themselves...

ive ben reading for like 40 minutes now ... guess ill have to finish later...

humpa metal is cool :cool:

most people seem to describe finntroll as folk-metal

good descriptions. black metal rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Kreator]humpa metal is cool :cool:[/QUOTE]
It's hump[b]p[/b]a.

Awesome thread, dude; although my opinion is that any band (exept for the amazing genre-starters such as Sabbath) is always a mix of more than one genre. Certainly one genre sticks out, but anyway, good post against very annoying questions.

[QUOTE=befukked]It's hump[b]p[/b]a.[/QUOTE]
i'm sorry :amaze:

what would u consider korn? im not a big fan, but im courious, most people would say that they are nu metal, but they sound very difrrent from those bands you posted under nu metal.

[QUOTE=Led Zepplein Hendix AC-DC ROCK]MEtal is good but it will never beat the Rock. AC-DC, Van Halan. hendrix, led zepplein they rocked the planet.

nivana is a reall good metal band[/QUOTE]
did u just say nirvana is a metal band?

Sweet

[QUOTE=black_sabbath634]what would u consider korn? im not a big fan, but im courious, most people would say that they are nu metal, but they sound very difrrent from those bands you posted under nu metal.[/QUOTE]

That's because Korn are the ultimate nu-metal band, and they're so "heavy" compared to most other wonders of modern rock.

lol **** man just dropped my favorite band and 2 others i like with that nu metal comment......just for the note..non of them are linkinpark, i really can't stand them

@fatherKeel
Finntroll is defining themselves as "trollish howdown metal" or so, the style theire playing is Bm mixed with Humppa(Finnish Folk) :D
sorry if theire any faults in it my english isnt the best

why dont you all stop bein stereotypical and let the only genres be band names, jesus..

Just had to say...

The 'Knot? Nu Metal?

IMO, no.
Their new stuff has some nu metal in it (Duality) but you can't call songs like "Surfacing" and "Get This" nu metal. I mean, the band recorded their latest album in a haunted house (Houdini Mansion)!

[QUOTE=TsukasaZero]Just had to say...

The 'Knot? Nu Metal?

IMO, no.
Their new stuff has some nu metal in it (Duality) but you can't call songs like "Surfacing" and "Get This" nu metal. I mean, the band recorded their latest album in a haunted house (Houdini Mansion)![/QUOTE]
Because recording their music in a "scary" place obviously changes the genre.

it seems that while this list is well rounded, i would like to redefine old metallica as more of truly speed metal, not thrash, although it's hard to define the difference, i will do my best.
Speed involes the extremely fast, sometimes complex riffing charateristic of such songs as "Blackened" and "one". The guitar solo is usually less melodic and more technical than other genres of metal. The guitar solo typically ends the song.
Thrash is more simplistic in riffing than speed, but it still has the choppy riffage. The best example i can think of is Pantera's "Cowboys from Hell". This also shows the guitar solo to be more melodic and in general shorter than soeed, and is usally followed by a final chorus. Metallica that did this was "Battery" and "The Thing that Should Not Be"

[QUOTE=bassismylifecuziamaloser]it seems that while this list is well rounded, i would like to redefine old metallica as more of truly speed metal, not thrash, although it's hard to define the difference, i will do my best.
Speed involes the extremely fast, sometimes complex riffing charateristic of such songs as "Blackened" and "one". The guitar solo is usually less melodic and more technical than other genres of metal. The guitar solo typically ends the song.
Thrash is more simplistic in riffing than speed, but it still has the choppy riffage. The best example i can think of is Pantera's "Cowboys from Hell". This also shows the guitar solo to be more melodic and in general shorter than soeed, and is usally followed by a final chorus. Metallica that did this was "Battery" and "The Thing that Should Not Be"[/QUOTE]
That's bullsh*t, all of it. The tempo does not define whether something is speed or thrash. Speed metal riffs are simpler and more linear than thrash riffs - speed metal riffs are emphasized on bludgeon where the same note is being repeated continually. Thrash riffs are also emphasized on bludgeon, but there are variations in the length of the notes (it's the punk influence).

All those songs you mentioned are more thrash than speed, except I don't remember what "The Thing that Should Not Be" sounds like.

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[FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Awesome post, dude. Only prob, though: need an explanation of hardcore/metalcore. Hard for me to explain, but from what I gather from listening to bands like Haste/Atreyu/FATA, Hardcore is simply metal screaming with punk song structure and simplicity. More aggression than punk, as well.[/FONT]

Aww who cares. Metal is metal, so let's all bang our heads and break our necks while doing it.Also break our back whilst moshing!!!!

wheres the
hair metal
power metal
and glam metal at?

What form of Metal (if any) is HIM?

Some people say Love Metal, but I dunno really.

[QUOTE=unknownleadfender][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Awesome post, dude. Only prob, though: need an explanation of hardcore/metalcore. Hard for me to explain, but from what I gather from listening to bands like Haste/Atreyu/FATA, Hardcore is simply metal screaming with punk song structure and simplicity. More aggression than punk, as well.[/FONT][/QUOTE]

Read through the thread. I gave a very detailed explanation on the "-core"s.

I just felt like saying that Meshuggah is the greatest and most talented metal band...no matter what "genre"

[QUOTE=NickyHIMfan]What form of Metal (if any) is HIM?

Some people say Love Metal, but I dunno really.[/QUOTE]
him are gothic . love metal is the name of their last cd

[QUOTE=Kreator]him are gothic . love metal is the name of their last cd[/QUOTE]
Arrrighty. Thanks :thumb:


Yeah, I know it's the name of their cd, but some folk on the net had said their actual music genre was 'Love Metal', and I also read that in an interview with Ville Valo one time too.

Sweet although it could use a few more artists

nice list bro

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That's one hell of a great, comprehensive list, but what the hell is with everyone calling everything some form of METAL now?

[SIZE=5]whatever happened to, uh, rock, maybe?[/SIZE]

There are people citing stuff like Finger Eleven, Creed, and disgustingly Nickelback as Nu-Metal.

[B]That is not metal, or ANY form of "metal".[/B]

The problem with this particular genre is that no one knows what the hell defines something as "nu-metal". The thread starter got it pretty close, but it could have been more defined. I gagged when some kid said Nickelback was Nu-Metal. jesus.

Korn and Slipknot are obviously Nu-Metal, they championed and kick-started the genre along with Limp Bizkit. I don't see how you can realistically argue that they aren't "nu-metal". If you remove Slipknot from the category, you might as well completely dissolve the genre. Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park and Disturbed are all "Nu-Metal", they have the basic elements to fit into "Metal". Abrasive. Loud. Aggressive. Fast. Breakbeats and crunching vocals. Deftones is definitely part of the genre, and you can throw stuff like Drowning Pool in as well. Godsmack is Nu-Metal to me, but I'm not going to try to argue against it. Trapt and Smile Empty Soul border along the Nu-Metal lines, but really, you guys are completely missing another genre when trying to label music. Where's Hard Rock and Alternative Rock?

Creed, Nickelback, Closure, Default and Finger Eleven are Alt Rock. They are not in ANY WAY "metal". None of those bands sound ANYTHING like Korn. If you're going to label everything new as "nu-metal", then you might as well call nirvana or pearl jam nu-metal as they're closer to any of these bands than Korn are.

So Nu-Metal isn't every **** thing that came after the grunge movement, kids. I swear I'm going to stab anyone that steps up and starts calling Matchbox 20 "nu-metal". Nu-Metal has their own distinct sound. Nu-Metal may have spawned some of the crappiest music in history, but as with every genre there are a few gems. I hate how people think the term is synonymous with "crap" just because a few popular artists give it a bad rap.

i don't really think mudvayne and slipknot should be concitered nu-metal, they don't fall into the "we're in it for the money" or shallow sort of music. And the music is not toned down so its much easier to understand.... in fact its the opposite. These bands do not sing about what you had mentioned.

Some may think opposite... but I don't think they are Nu-Metal.

Pretty good job by the guy who covered the hardcore, but I personally consider 80's hardcore and what has been termed old hardcore here as hardcore punk.
And more heavy 90's hardcore, i call just hardcore, stuff like strife, madball, indecision etc.
The metalcore was cool, but i didnt see any mention of europian bands who do the metalcore thing a whole load better than anywhere else, check out Caliban, Arkangel, and uk bands like special move, decimate, XcanaanX, 50 caliber and Raiden.
The emocore thing, well, this is a genre that is always getting messed up and should be termed melodic hardcore for bands like Poison the well and all stuff like that, simply because there is really nothing emo about it other than emotional vocals.
Screamo, good job, also if you here someone talking about emo violence, thats screamo, Love lost but not forgotten are very good band, and also after school knife fight, id say screamo / emo violence is like, grindcore mixed with jangly emo parts with high pitched screaming. but it is a very broad genre so.

[QUOTE=TempermentalGoat]Nu-Metal may have spawned some of the crappiest music in history, but as with every genre there are a few gems. I hate how people think the term is synonymous with "crap" just because a few popular artists give it a bad rap.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your whole post, but this is the best part. Seriously, nu-metal is a genre, not an insult.

somebody brought up the question about rage against the machine...

i mean... taking only the vocals id almost call them nu metal. of course they arnt, but i wouldnt know where else to put them.


someone said that NIN ar not industrial. why not? what are they? id also say that a lot of manson is influenced by industrial. (even though i would not call him industrial)

some other bands that would fit under industrial in my opinion are static x, laibach and rammstein.

anybody here know laibach?

@TempermentalGoat:

good post

[QUOTE=FatherKeeL]someone said that NIN ar not industrial. why not? what are they? id also say that a lot of manson is influenced by industrial. (even though i would not call him industrial)

some other bands that would fit under industrial in my opinion are static x, laibach and rammstein.

anybody here know laibach?[/QUOTE]
I've never heard of Laibach, but I also think Rammstein and Static X are industrial. I don't know who said NIN aren't industrial, because they definitely are.

[QUOTE=SuicidalAndroid]i don't really think mudvayne and slipknot should be concitered nu-metal, they don't fall into the "we're in it for the money" or shallow sort of music. And the music is not toned down so its much easier to understand.... in fact its the opposite. These bands do not sing about what you had mentioned.

Some may think opposite... but I don't think they are Nu-Metal.[/QUOTE]

"we're in it for the money". I've had it. I'm just gonna start avoiding anything that has to do with Nu-Metal as a topic. I just can't argue anymore.

[QUOTE]What about Power Metal?[/QUOTE] (originally posted by ragnarok snake)

power metal was mentioned.
but its a great list, i was beginning to think no one knew anything about metal anymore. and the differences between black and death metal were well pointed out, that list is the sort of thing i end up trying to explain to ignorant stereotypers (is that a word? well, you know what i mean) every day.
i might just print it out and post it around my college to set the record straight.
you picked the main genres, good idea, it would take forever to define every single sub genre that goes with them.
again, good list.

Linkin park suck monster ***...

What kind of metal is Guns N Roses??