Who is your favorite battle rapper?

Mine is probably Copywrite. He writes such good punch lines.

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]It annoys me how little some people know about rap.
"IT'S ALL MANUFACTURED, NO TALENT REQUIRED, *SNORT SNORT SNORT*, ALL RAPPERS ARE GAY LOL"
A lot of rap is very personal, check out Public Enemy, the best rap group of all time, (ever, no buts)[/QUOTE]
I don't know if you could call Public Enemy 'personal'. They were way too political. Agreed about them being the best rap group ever, though.

AHAHAHAH, I wonder how many people here who are being polite, talked about how much they hate rap in other threads.

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]I think rap takes much talent to make and perform. It's just that I can't listen to it. I don't hate it but I would rather be listening to metal or hardcore.[/QUOTE]
id rather listen to rap than most hardcore

[QUOTE=Bartender]I just saw that in a Virgin megastore for £5 a couple of days ago. Should I buy it?[/QUOTE]

Jazzmatazz is pretty cool, definitely worth checking out if you can get it for a reasonable price. But it's no substitute for a Gang Starr album.

This is cool how the purpose of the thread has changed direction into a huge "What I've been listening to lately" for rap purposes. And the fact that its right in the middle of R&M is even cooler.

[QUOTE=Kosta]Well, they're extremely well known in underground circles, sooo.

I like some early Necro, not much But it's quite enjoyable at times. Non-Phixion isn't bad, but msot of their stuff sounds the same and is rather tiring/generic. Not bad, though.[/QUOTE]

ive also noticed this, but i love the way they take beats from other well known songs and make their lyric magic on them.

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Necro is out of his mind.

My Sweet Dreams is my favorite track from him.

Do you like Non-Phixion?[/QUOTE]

havent really had a chance to look too much for his stuff yet, as i went after gore tex first.

[QUOTE=krisco5387]Well, I must agree to a certain extent. It was all fine until you said something about African culture being related to rap. You want REAL African culture? Listen to the Blues. The Blues came out in the 1930s and was based on field and sorrow songs used to convey their saddness as they slaved away for our Caucasion race. Rap is by far NOT African-American Culture. I need to strongly disagree with that, as I just did a research paper on Jazz and it stated the thesis above. THAT'S ALL![/QUOTE]


And black culture expresses itself with hip-hop. Hip-hop is the modern day black subculture. Rap - and other elements - is used by the people that live that culture to express themselves.

If you don't think that the Black Star album is the embodiment of a culture in music. I feel sorry for you.

[QUOTE=Iai]Blues became jazz, jazz became beat poetry, beat poetry became rap.

Nice try, but you fail.[/QUOTE]


Actually.

Blues became rythm and blues. Rythm and blues became reggeae. Reggae became rap.

DJ Kool Herc was a reggae DJ before he invented hip-hop.

Rapping was around in the early 1900s when black slaves protested by rapping their protest songs. Some country singers rapped, too. It was before beat poetry.

[QUOTE=lobsterjohnson]id rather listen to rap than most hardcore[/QUOTE]

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Kosta: I'd like to think funk had some influence on rap.

It certainly did. After all, Herc was spinning James Brown and other funk artists.

I would say there is a real coherent musical evolution when it comes to hip hop. That's the beauty of it.

I like some rap ub tnot most of it. The biggest thing that bugs me about them is that they and others refer to them and themselves as artists. If they were artists of music than thats all they would do instead of sticking there fingers in everyting i.e making a clothing line, starting TV shows, being in the soft drink industry (crunk juice) like all that **** then they refer to themselves as artists? what do they really do they tlak aobut the hoe they ****ed then cut last night , and going to a whore ouse (candy Shop) i personally think its really stupid and gay. But i can give props to old school hip hop like a lot of that stuff is good lik The Chronic, beastie Boys, Sugar HIll gang. but tahts really it

[QUOTE=SlashHalen]I like some rap ub tnot most of it. The biggest thing that bugs me about them is that they and others refer to them and themselves as artists. If they were artists of music than thats all they would do instead of sticking there fingers in everyting i.e making a clothing line, starting TV shows, being in the soft drink industry (crunk juice) like all that **** then they refer to themselves as artists? what do they really do they tlak aobut the hoe they ****ed then cut last night , and going to a whore ouse (candy Shop) i personally think its really stupid and gay. But i can give props to old school hip hop like a lot of that stuff is good lik The Chronic, beastie Boys, Sugar HIll gang. but tahts really it[/QUOTE]

Stop talking.

i want to say this. im a black male from portsmouth, va - the hood, if you want to call it that. now, i listen to a little bit of the nu metal for when i do stuff like lift weights, i have an open mind. now what you people who make these broad generalizations about what you see on mtv and hear on the radio fail to realize is that you are just getting the tip of the iceberg.

alot of rap is just rock and roll from a different perspective. lil jon and the eastside boys for example, listen to it. its headbangers music, just from "our" point of view. from "our" culture. thats what we know, and its how we express ourselves.

dont forget about RAP BANDS like- the roots, who are POETS with thier OWN LIVE BAND...not just musical instruments on a computer. with rock artists recording in acoustic studios with all these man made variables, they might as well do it on the computer.....

and why not delve into other ventures like commercials, clothing lines, etc etc etc? Sean John is a $400 MILLION dollar business, it seems like perfect business sense to me. money is out there to be made, why not make it!?

this is a conversation which will never have an end in the near future, i just came by to let you allknow what was on my mind at this particular time.

[QUOTE]dont forget about RAP BANDS like- the roots, who are POETS with thier OWN LIVE BAND...not just musical instruments on a computer[/QUOTE]

Dont forget Tu Pac, he is the ultimate diamond in the rough..or was the ultimate diamond in the rough, all the good rappers seem to die before their time.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Kosta: I'd like to think funk had some influence on rap.[/QUOTE]


Because DJ Kool Herc accidently left his reggae collection in Jamaica - no joke.

I was mainly talking about production technique here, considering that's what set hip-hop apart from other music early on.

This thread is amazing. I just went through each and every page and checked out so many of those artists. Right in the middle of r&m. hehe. Thanks a million.
Whats scary is that I havent heard of half these artists who, for the most part, make better music than most of the rap and hardcore etc thats famous. Mommy, its true, there is an underground.
/thwacks self on head and walks out of thread

[QUOTE=ReadBooks]alot of rap is just rock and roll from a different perspective. lil jon and the eastside boys for example, listen to it. its headbangers music, just from "our" point of view. from "our" culture. thats what we know, and its how we express ourselves. [/QUOTE]
You should have used DMX as the example. :)

Whats the difference between West side, East side, and Gangster Rap, anyway?

West side is rap made on the West coast. East side is the opposite, obviously.

And from allmusic -

Gangsta rap developed in the late '80s. Evolving out of hardcore rap, gangsta rap had an edgy, noisy sound. Lyrically, it was just as abrasive, as the rappers spun profane, gritty tales about urban crime. Sometimes the lyrics were an accurate reflection of reality; other times, they were exaggerated comic book stories. Either way, it became the most commercially successful form of hip-hop in the late '80s and early '90s. In the process, gangsta rap caused considerable controversy, as conservative organizations tried to get the albums banned. Even when the activist groups forced certain bands off major labels, the groups continued to make their music uncensored.

[QUOTE=Mystique7]Whats the difference between West side, East side, and Gangster Rap, anyway?[/QUOTE]


The place it came from. Besides, most west coast rap has more of a p-funk influence to it. But, that all started with EPMD on the East, ironically.

Gangster rap is about gangster life, pretty much.

East Coast rap started out as pretty harmless stuff--Run-DMC, the Beasties, Biz Markie, etc. The king of East Coast was Russell Simmons and Def Jam. Then later on it moved into Gangsta Rap in the 90's with Biggie Smalls, Jay-Z, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, DMX, etc.

West Coast rap came Straight Outta Compton (yuk yuk yuk)--it was far angrier and more abrasive (signature West Coast rap: NWA, Ice-T); West Coast rap evolved into G-Funk in the 90's with the creation of Death Row records and the release of Dr. Dre's The Chronic.

some of the ppl who listen to rap drive me to hate it

[QUOTE=metalhead 4 good]some of the ppl who listen to rap drive me to hate it[/QUOTE]

Funny, I hold the same opinion of metal.

Can't spell crap without rap. :)

[QUOTE=SmashingPumpkin]Can't spell crap without rap. :)[/QUOTE]

Not funny

the links won't work for me...

[QUOTE=the thing that should never be]the links won't work for me...[/QUOTE]
They must have had 25 downloads already (or it's been a week, but I'm too lazy to check the first page).

Just download the titles from an alternate source, they're worth it.

[QUOTE=SmashingPumpkin]Can't spell crap without rap. :)[/QUOTE]

Survey says...

[b]you're a fag[/b]

illmatic=an awesome album *plays 'world is yours'*