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misunderstood 03-31-2005 03:11 PM

Actually, since the party thing is going to be held on May 2nd, just a day before the actual release, we'll be able to pick it up that night there so i had to pay $15 for it (got my ticket online already) plus, we're gonna see some other NIN rare stuff that night.
Anyway, Kage, how was the listening party in Houston?

Kage 03-31-2005 03:17 PM

[QUOTE=misunderstood]Actually, since the party thing is going to be held on May 2nd, just a day before the actual release, we'll be able to pick it up that night there so i had to pay $15 for it (got my ticket online already) plus, we're gonna see some other NIN rare stuff that night.
Anyway, Kage, how was the listening party in Houston?[/QUOTE]

Ah, I see. At mine they had pre-orders, and you could get a free 7" Vinyl single if you pre-ordered it there.

I'm going to be honest...it was fuc[COLOR=White]k[/COLOR]ing awesome. I'm working on a full review of it, so I can give some details, like I think Magicaltroll and Madey want.

Mabelobe 03-31-2005 08:41 PM

Hurry up with the review already....take forever with the order....

dirtbox101 03-31-2005 08:56 PM

i heard he went poppy with it, dissapointing since he ripped on marylan manson for doing that and trying to be like trent.

Kage 03-31-2005 10:34 PM

I stumbled across something that might interst you NIN fans.

I was pleasantly surprised to come across a few paintings that have obviously inspired a great deal of NIN aspects.

An American artist named Clyfford Still, who was a leading visionary in the art form of "Color fields." In other words, he would create vague landscapes using different colors and shades to form contrasts:

"His paintings are non-figurative, and largely concerned with juxtaposing different colours in a variety of formations. Still's arrangements are irregular. His jagged flashes of colour give the impression that one layer of colour has been "torn" off the painting, revealing the colors underneath. Another point of departure, Still uses a thick impasto [paints], causing subtle variety in shade across the painting."

When you visit the link below, you'll see exactly what the above paragraph is talking about. And you'll also see a great likeness to a lot of the artwork on The Downward Spiral, an absolutely awesome connection, seeing as how the above paragraph explains almost exactly what Reznor does so well, except instead of painting he does it with sounds to create soundscapes, which also have a visual aura about them. It highlights Reznor's beautiful juxtoposition of visual and audio mediums to gain the desired effect. The Still-inspired artwork of The Downward Spiral is a great visual representation of what Reznor's music accomplishes.

For a look at some of his greatest pieces:

[url]http://www.clyffordstill.net/art/art.html[/url]

Mabelobe 04-01-2005 12:21 PM

And now the With Teeth review right?....................RIGHT?!?!

BlindWriting 04-01-2005 12:29 PM

For those who don't read the NIN Q&A's on the official website, here are some wise words from Trent Reznor, on the video for THTF:

"The video for 'The Hand That Feeds' is avaiable online. It was directed by Rob Sheridan and I think it kicks ***. I see a lot of you couldn't figure out if it was rehersal footage or a video or what. Mission accomplished. Who says what a 'music video' has to be? To me, the SAFEST thing I could do is follow in the footsteps of my peers and hire one of a handful of 'cool' directors who would want to come up with a 'clever' concept. I could pretty much guarantee a place on MTV and the director has another demo on his reel on his way to becoming a big, famous MOVIE director. Oh yeah, and I could pay a LOT for it, too. All of that seems dated and stupid to me. 'The Hand That Feeds' is a straight-ahead song that I felt didn't need a big bloated production to support it."
3/22/05.

Overall, I like what he had to say, and I'm glad he commented on the surge of music video directors taking on big, Hollywood blockbusters.

magicaltrollII 04-01-2005 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Ah, I see. At mine they had pre-orders, and you could get a free 7" Vinyl single if you pre-ordered it there.

I'm going to be honest...it was fuc[COLOR=White]k[/COLOR]ing awesome. I'm working on a full review of it, so I can give some details, like I think Magicaltroll and Madey want.[/QUOTE]
Of course :D :D :D
...Come on man! haha, everyone in here is bugging you about posting the review, so I'm trying not to bug you TOO much about it... but enough to make you post it faster :lol:

magicaltrollII 04-01-2005 11:27 PM

And that art is pretty cool... I lvoe art like that, where it doesn't really have anything in it, just random shapes sorta.

Magicaltroll 04-01-2005 11:40 PM

I remember seeing another artist do that kind of stuff before, but it was a looong time ago... But I remember thinking it was awesome.

jeffro 04-01-2005 11:56 PM

Heres the video if you want it. Im still waiting for it to download, I havnt heard the new song yet.

[url]http://lfd.streamos.com/interscope/nin/with_teeth/video/nin_the_hand_that_feeds_hi.mov[/url]

Magicaltroll 04-02-2005 12:05 AM

Thanks, but most of us in here have seen it :D

Kage 04-02-2005 12:18 AM

I'm REALLY sorry I haven't posted much on the release party. Do you guys mind some detailed information? I've been putting off writing it because I'm lazy and want to be able to describe it right, without spoilers (unless you don't mind a few minor spoilers)

Kage 04-02-2005 12:21 AM

Don't worry, it's hard to remember enough to include spoilers anyway. But I might mention moods of the songs, maybe? (Ie... this song is upbeat, downbeat, similar to (insert previous NIN song here).) If that's too far, then fine, I wont' go into much detail.

But I promise I'll do it tomorow, as for right now I have to get up early tommorow and I'm already staying up too late.

Magicaltroll 04-02-2005 12:21 AM

Hmm... I'm not sure how you could really post spoilers unless you described the song in full detail and everything, just give us a little taste of what each song is like :D

Kage 04-02-2005 12:24 AM

Let's just say, in my opinion, this album contains the best fast-paced song and the best slow-paced song NIN ever made. There are some competions for slow-paced (Hurt, Something I Can Never Have, And All That Could Have Been). But this was so different.

As for the fast-paced song (and I mean [I]fast-paced[/I], it was mindblowingly good and the best fast-paced NIN song ever, I think.

And my favorite song from the album is probably the one from which the teaser clip came from. That song was amazingly good...the teaser portrays somehwat the mood, but does the song nothing close to justice.

Kage 04-02-2005 12:26 AM

But if I get into this, I'll end up staying up all night :)

Which normally I wouldn't mind but I really do have to get up early tommorow morning.

'night everyone.

misunderstood 04-02-2005 12:35 AM

Hmm, they should make this the official NIN thread...what does it take to make a thread official?

Magicaltroll 04-02-2005 11:44 AM

Yes... That got rid of all my doubts for this album :D
Man, I really can't wait. But I don't think a mod will do it because I think I recall a few people wanting to make some thread into an official thread, but they said it was fine the way it was or something.

I might try to talk to Bartender about it, he's the only mod that I've ever really "talked" to on here.

Six Foot Revolver 04-02-2005 11:45 AM

It would be pretty cool but I don't think they will

Kage 04-02-2005 02:24 PM

I think they might have stopped creating new official threads. If we keep it going, though, it will be just as good.

Six Foot Revolver 04-02-2005 02:27 PM

There was a pretty big rage against the machine thread a bit back and they said no to turning that into an official. IMO they should turn the Judas Priest and Beatles threads into officials too.

Kage 04-02-2005 02:28 PM

I must express some distress I've experienced with Trent in the past weeks. His explanation for playing small venues on the tour (the first time out in years) is that they didn't know how big the demand was for NIN tickets.

Well, I call bullshi[COLOR=White]t[/COLOR]. They and everyone else knew dam[COLOR=White]n[/COLOR]ed well that NIN still has a massive fanbase. That is absolutely one of the most pretentious things I've ever heard.

Magicaltroll 04-02-2005 05:22 PM

Yeah, if they would of played the Thomas and Mack (I'm not sure why I put the name... :D) around my city then I would of definitely got tickets.
But since the venue was REALLY small, I didn't have a chance... They're playing at a bigger place, but tickets are 80$ and I think they're sold out anyway.

I was a day off :(

Kage 04-02-2005 09:59 PM

Let me start off by saying that my memory is pretty hazy of the album. I stupidly didn’t bring with me a track-list or anything to make mental notes about each song, and I was able to keep track for the first 5 or 6 songs, but after that I got distracted. I remember some specifics, but if I’m wrong about something, then it’s simply because I forgot. As a whole, the album was very cohesive, and had a great variety of songs. I’ll go over the highlights of the album, as I cannot remember every song anyway.

I got to Numbers (the club) around 8:00 and there was a fairly good-sized line. They said the doors would be opening at 9:00, but they actually started letting people in slowly at around 8:30 and I think I got in about 8:45. We perused around for about 15 minutes and found a really good seat (not an actual seat...it was just a place on the stage where bands normally play that was elevated and against the wall) (although the seat was good, the sound wasn’t great…way too much bass, but still good). And no alcohol for me, I’m underage, and I turned down all offers from drunk chicks. ;)

At around 9:00 they started playing NIN videos in order of release: Head Like A Hole, Down In It, Happiness In Slavery (which I was surprised about), Pinion, Wish, March Of The Pigs, Closer, Into The Void, and Star****ers Inc.

Then they did an NIN “history” which was basically clips from every music video (including Sin, Hurt, and We’re In This Together Now) and some live footage. Finally, at 10:00, the real event began.

The piano-tinged and odd [B]All The Love In The World[/B] opened the album. That song was great and really got the mood for the album started. It was a weird song for NIN, but this album is really different than anything else he’s done. That was a great song.

People were starting to dance and get crazy on the floor. I stayed out of that scene for the most part, I was there to listen to the music and that’s it. Some assholes decided they would start up a mosh pit at a club, so at that point I just sat on the sidelines and enjoyed.

[B]You Know What You Are[/B] was absolutely incredible. It’s a song with a very fast-paced tempo and cool drumbeat, and it was my favorite fast/heavy NIN song ever made. It was perfection, an adrenaline rush from beginning to end with awesome vocals.

[B]The Collector[/B], I don’t remember much about, but what I do remember is that it was a good song, but probably the weakest song on the album. I remember it didn’t have anything in particular that caught me ear and didn’t flow that well (which is a good thing, because [I]every[/I] other song had something like that).

Next was [B]The Hand That Feeds[/B], which was AWESOME when it was played really loud like that. That song really got my adrenaline pumping It REALLY fit in well with the album. And if you’re afraid that the song is indicative of the album, it’s not. It’s the most straight-forward song on the CD, and most of the other songs keep that classic NIN style, but all of them are really original.

[B]Love Is Not Enough[/B] was great. I can’t remember what it sounded like :upset:, except for the main line “Love is not enough,” with plenty of synth and guitar in the background. And the end breakdown was really cool synth work.

[B]Everyday Is Exactly The Same[/B] had a big drum-sound and was a great song.

After that it sort of blended together. It flowed very nicely, and EVERY song had something great about it. It sounded different from any other NIN material yet, I assure you of that, and in a good way. It mixed very well together dark overtones and mellowness with a heavy edge.

And the biggest highlight of the album for me, It was either [B]Beside You In Time[/B] or [B]The Line Begins To Blur[/B] that the teaser trailer was taken from. It was nothing like the trailer. It was a huge buildup song that started with a sparse drumbeat and some quiet keys/guitars with some nice soft singing from Trent. It was dark song, that kept building up until the huge chord progression. LOVED that song.

[B]Right Where It Belongs[/B] was a great closer, the softest song on the album and also one of the greatest.

[B]Sunspots[/B] was a cool loud/soft song with piano and some great guitar work, another favorite. Some idiots were trying to mosh during it, but it didn’t exactly work out. There were some very mosh-able songs on the album, though.

At the end, there were huge applause. I loved it. I cannot wait until May 3rd.
Sorry about the lack of detail, I'm really stretching my memory here, and a lot of parts I was overtaken by the bass, but it's a good thing, as there will be more surprises when you hear the album. Don't download the bootlegs that have been surfacing, wait for the real thing. This album is amazing.

EDIT: Here are some pictures of the actual party. I'm in a few of them(# 33, I'm the one standing in the very background, and #13 I'm there sitting next to the red light), but in the background so you won't really be able to see me unless you're really looking hard.

[url]http://www.bradgroux.com/photos/03.30.05/[/url]

Magicaltroll 04-02-2005 10:59 PM

YES!!! I LOVE YOU KAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*reads it*

BlindWriting 04-02-2005 11:04 PM

I seriously cannot wait for With Teeth now.

Magicaltroll 04-03-2005 09:27 AM

Neither can I...
I'm glad you posted that though Kage, because I was really nervous whether or not it would live up to the older stuff, but now I'm pretty sure it will :thumb:

clearvision 04-04-2005 10:49 AM

I just got the fragile, I went for the left side first...Wow this owns TDS, do you agree? I haven't got on to the second disk, but I'm impressed, less of the irritating noise in TDS more melodies and generally better music...

Kage 04-04-2005 02:23 PM

[QUOTE=clearvision]I just got the fragile, I went for the left side first...Wow this owns TDS, do you agree? I haven't got on to the second disk, but I'm impressed, less of the irritating noise in TDS more melodies and generally better music...[/QUOTE]

I love both, probably the Fragile slightly more, but I like each for different reasons. I'm glad you like The Fragile, though, I had a feeling that you would. You'll probably like Left better than Right, but Right is still amazing, just takes longer to get into.


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