[QUOTE=BunnYzWillEAtYoU]apc is not going on tour for a while, even they they have another album slated for november i think. Tool will probably tour soon... whenever they release their next album (which could be years). but from what Ive heard they should have some new stuff comin out by winter or so.[/QUOTE]

Start of next year is a tentative date, but a lot closer than years. And I hope they tour around that time too, and hopefully do the festival run this time

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]I made a road trip to Hershey Pa to see em this year(5 hour drive)and it was well worth it. Amazing band and josh performed beautifully even with the broken leg[/QUOTE]

DUDDEEE!!!! I was there too man!!! were you general admission or have a seat?? I had a seat but it was pretty close up, left of the stage. One of the best **** shows i been too. I know, I am a drummer and I dont understand how josh does some of the things he does. Though, seeing danny carey would be ridiculous. I think I would choke on like... air or something and die.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Start of next year is a tentative date, but a lot closer than years. And I hope they tour around that time too, and hopefully do the festival run this time[/QUOTE]

yeah thats what i heard at the toolshed. Kabir is the man!!

wasn't Tool supposed to do a new song for the Doom 3 soundtrack?

[url]http://www.doom3headquarters.com/forum.php?forum=1&page=1&msg=1790&msgref=1791#anch1791[/url]

I was hoping that it was going to be Tool, but this is just as good. The music is very good, from what i've downloaded (Doom 3 still not out here yet)

theres a new APC remix of the outsider on the new resident evil sound track



[url]www.roadrunnerrecords.com[/url]

[QUOTE=BunnYzWillEAtYoU]DUDDEEE!!!! I was there too man!!! were you general admission or have a seat?? I had a seat but it was pretty close up, left of the stage. One of the best **** shows i been too. I know, I am a drummer and I dont understand how josh does some of the things he does. Though, seeing danny carey would be ridiculous. I think I would choke on like... air or something and die.[/QUOTE]


Yea i was in the same spot you where. We where actually probally sitting pretty close. I have long hair and was wearing a white paiste shirt. . .i was with a dude with red hair, a dude with long blonde hair, and a really hot chick.

does anybody know were I could get some free footage of [B][U]T()()L[/U][/B] live. I'd realy like to get a hold of something from the:amaze:[U]LATERALUS[/U]:amaze:tour....

[QUOTE=IronGland93]does anybody know were I could get some free footage of [B][U]T()()L[/U][/B] live. I'd realy like to get a hold of something from the:amaze:[U]LATERALUS[/U]:amaze:tour....[/QUOTE]

Go to this website [url]http://www.musictelevisionsucks.net/search.php[/url] and in the search box type in Tool....They have quite a few live videos to download.

Thank's alot TWIGGSTER...I've been look'n for awhile...Thank's for the help!...:naughty: Dude, I got Schism LIIIIIIIIIIVE in the BIG NY:naughty:....

[QUOTE=clearvision]Postcount ++? My argument was already corrected you peenarse. No need for sarcasm![/QUOTE]


Hah. There wasn't any hint of sarcasm in that. I read the correction after I posted it.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]Yea i was in the same spot you where. We where actually probally sitting pretty close. I have long hair and was wearing a white paiste shirt. . .i was with a dude with red hair, a dude with long blonde hair, and a really hot chick.[/QUOTE]

Dude, no offense but you fit the description of like... everyone else there. Chances are pretty good we saw eachother but I cant remember anything specific. I was kinda watchin the band intetly most of the time (for any moment where maynard would come out of his corner and show himself). Loved that thing maynard was standing behind at the beginning. I think they did that at every show. What did you think of burning bride?? I thought they were alright as compared to other completely ****ty opening bands ive seen. Little too reminiscent of chains-like grunge, though. At least we didnt have to sit through mini-kiss. I heard they blow.

Mini Kiss played? And i missed it. . .****. i thought the burning brides sucked. Even if mini kiss sucked i woulda still loved to see a bunch of midgets in black and white makeup. . .i smoked like an ounce before i went in so i would have laughed extremely hard @ that.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]Mini Kiss played? And i missed it. . .****. i thought the burning brides sucked. Even if mini kiss sucked i woulda still loved to see a bunch of midgets in black and white makeup. . .i smoked like an ounce before i went in so i would have laughed extremely hard @ that.[/QUOTE]

LOL

[QUOTE=Cicatriz-ESP]I know what the song "Stinkfist" is about, its about Anal Fisting -_0[/QUOTE]

Ewww gross is it really?????!!?? I thought it was Vagina Fisting.

I thought he said Jesus was a ****ing ???? in Sober.

[QUOTE=bobthesalesclerk]Mini Kiss played? And i missed it. . .****. i thought the burning brides sucked. Even if mini kiss sucked i woulda still loved to see a bunch of midgets in black and white makeup. . .i smoked like an ounce before i went in so i would have laughed extremely hard @ that.[/QUOTE]

no they didnt play that night. but they played like every other night on that tour. youre right though, that would have been ****in hilarious. I dint smoke at all, cuz i went with my sister... APC+ :smoke: = :thumb:

[QUOTE=BuzzFreak]Ewww gross is it really?????!!?? I thought it was Vagina Fisting.[/QUOTE]

are you kidding me....

The song is not directly about the traditional interpretation of "fisting" or even fistulas, instead it's using it as an analogy; it's comparing it to the "desensitization" of modern society towards graphic content, as compared to a few decades ago, when censorship was strict ('desensitized to everything/what became of subtlety'). The song is trying to state that in the past, 'something' had to change so that people could be stimulated intellectually. But then constant exposure (or over stimulation) to this material, numbs the person ('this may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to'), so that eventually it takes something REALLY graphic or shocking, to affect the person emotionally or intellectually. Hence the 'finger-knuckle-shoulder' analogy; it's saying that now, it takes more than just a little bit of stimulation for people to feel anything. So the shoulder can be considered as the extreme. It would make sense that this song would be referring to censorship, as the song "Hush", from Opiate, also referred to censorship; only, the issue was addressed more directly in "Hush" than it was in "Stinkfist".

its been done before... but im gonna try to muster up some intelligent thought on one of my favorite songs... so here goes!
[I]Song:[/I] [B]Eulogy[/B]
[I]Album:[/I] [B]Ænima[/B]
I see this song as being a rise and fall of a leader of some sort (maybe the media). Most people when they get an idea thats unorthodox get a lot of sarcasm. "He had a lot to say, he had a lot of nothing to say" seems to me to be a really sarcastic statement, although the fact that he is singing it makes it hard to hear the sarcasm. The "We'll miss him" is kinda like an addition to the sarcasm of the previous line, although it's like it's also showing some resentment about the crazy, funny guy leaving and not being able to keep them entertained. "So long, we wish you well. You told us how you weren't afraid to die." At this point its like people are telling him "Yeah, sure, I believe you." "Don't cry, or feel too down" is a message of consolation here. To a point, the masses are sorry for him. "Not all martyrs see divinity, but at least you tried." Basically, you put your mind on the chopping block and they dropped the axe. Not a bad attempt. The next verse is the rising to power point, however, due to his previous rejection, he corrupts the idea he had and makes it impure. "Standing above the crowd, he had a voice that was strong and loud." At this point he finds a way to reach the masses. Nobody is able to ignore him because he's is in your face. "Ranting and pointing his finger at everything but his heart." His message is no longer pure but everybody is taking it now and accepting it. Think of it like a preacher saying "You're going to hell because you're a sinner" when he is blind to his own sin. The "we'll miss him" now isn't a "poor guy" kinda thing, now it's more like some people still dont take his idea. "No way to recall what it was that you had said to me, like I care at all." This is actually the man who has risen to power holding resentment for his rejection. The word recall here doesn't mean remember, instead it means no way to take it back, and now he doesn't care what happens to the people who rejected him. "So loud. You sure could yell. You took a stand on every little thing." Nobody is able to avoid the propaganda this guy is putting out, and whenever someone makes a point that he isn't what he appears to be, he makes a stand and gets defensive about every little thing. People even get to the point of basing their whole lives around this idea of his and try to numb their own existences with it "You could be the one to save me from my own existence" (not written lyrics). When "Standing above the crowd, he had a voice that was strong and loud and I swallowed his façade because im so eager to identify with..." people just take it in and accept it without question (much like pop culture). "Will you? Will you now? Would you die for me? Don't you ****ing lie." People start to question if it's really as good for them as they think it is, and when they find out that the person has been feeding them bull****, they start to say "Don't you step out of line! Don't you ****ing lie!" People start to shove this person aside and when he asks why, they tell him "You claimed all this time that you would die for me. Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy? You had a lot to say, you had a lot of [I]nothing[/I] to say." *shake your head and slowly walk away* They tell him just to give up and go, never come back. "Come down, get off your ****ing cross." They start looking for the next thing to fulfill their stupid desires "We need the ****ing space to nail the next fool martyr. To ascend you must die, you must be crucified, for our sins and our lies. Goodbye!"

and so thats it. i think i remember someone talking about there being no difference between vhs and dvd with salival. there really is... you get the cd with both, but with the vhs version, you dont get the hush video. its only on the dvd. oh and the toology isnt worth 20¢.

[QUOTE=EonBlueApcolyps]are you kidding me....

The song is not directly about the traditional interpretation of "fisting" or even fistulas, instead it's using it as an analogy; it's comparing it to the "desensitization" of modern society towards graphic content, as compared to a few decades ago, when censorship was strict ('desensitized to everything/what became of subtlety'). The song is trying to state that in the past, 'something' had to change so that people could be stimulated intellectually. But then constant exposure (or over stimulation) to this material, numbs the person ('this may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to'), so that eventually it takes something REALLY graphic or shocking, to affect the person emotionally or intellectually. Hence the 'finger-knuckle-shoulder' analogy; it's saying that now, it takes more than just a little bit of stimulation for people to feel anything. So the shoulder can be considered as the extreme. It would make sense that this song would be referring to censorship, as the song "Hush", from Opiate, also referred to censorship; only, the issue was addressed more directly in "Hush" than it was in "Stinkfist".[/QUOTE]

This is they way I have always seen it, as it makes more sense. For a song that really is a straight innuendo reference, 4 degrees off Undertow. The song is basically about rear door lurve, as people who understand the title would know. Plus just read some of the lyrics. Although im sure there is still some way to interpret it differently.

Does anyone here know why Tool did the 69 track thing on Undertow? I never understood that.

Ah ok. Thanks.

waaay off subject but does anyone know how to make bmp image as an avatar....Thanks

Convert it to a .Gif

Tweaker (the Doom 3 music) is pretty awesome. More mellow than Tool but good.

I've never been to a tool show. Gauranteed, next time theyre on tour, im front row. I did see APC however. I think a tool show would be a lot different (except for maynard in the dark like he always is). Lets keep this thread going. I wanna hear about experiences at tool concerts from anyone whose gone to any.

Never saw tool but they will definitly be touring within the next 10 months. Cant wait :)

Haven't seen Tool either. When they tour next, I'm definetly going to see them. Their show would be awesome. Their live stuff soudns awesome too. A Tool show wud truly be an awesome experience.

I saw Tool during their Lateralus tour. It was amazing. The opening band was Meshuggah and the crowd got pretty wild during their set. THere was beer being thrown all over the place so I was kinda soaked. I was at the arena extremely early so I was at the very front against the rails...so yep, i had bruises everywhere by the end of the night. Anyway, Tools set was awesome. They opened with Sober and ended with Lateralus, I believe. In between they played Stinkfist, 46&2, Opiate, Schism, Triad(with Meshuggah's drummer), The Grudge, and others (I know that at some point Maynard played guitar). Maynard was in the dark giving his back to the audience(nothing unusual) but nonetheless great! He talked alot about sex and how we should all sit in front of a fireplace, unplug our tv and jack off ourselves into oblivion. When the show was over all four members came to the front of the stage and did a group hug and clapped at the audience. I thought that for sure Maynard would leave immediatly after that but no, he stuck around to throw water bottles, drum sticks, and guitar picks. Oh, that night if I'm not mistaken Maynard made a comment or a joke about a fire. At their previous show the night before they had a little accident and burned their dressing room. Alot of their equipment was damaged. Anyway, AWESOME EXPERIENCE!

Still haven't seen them, missed the last 3 oppotunities that I had (2 shows in London and the last Ozzfest they did) due to lack of transport/idiot planning from friends. But when APC played support to the Deftones at Wembly arena, I remember that Maynard said after that he would try and make it a definite next tour venue for whatever band came first. (Although I would prefer it if they would come to nottingham, but rock city seems a bit small for a band as big as they are now)

But although i've seen live videos (thanks to whoever posted the video site link btw :thumb: ) I would like to know, what kind of crowd is a Tool concert like? heavy meal moshers or appreciation crowds like APC ones?

I saw Tool in London in 2001. The crowd was very still and just stood there and listened. There were only 2 crowd surfers (during Parabola). The security guards just stood there yawning, they had no work to do. I've never been to a gig like it before.