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davegrohlismyhero 05-07-2004 07:21 PM

Rage Against the Machione-how would you guys categorize them?

Scourge 05-07-2004 07:26 PM

man, why the hell must Mudvayne, etc and Linkin Park, etc be in the same genre T_T

loki153 05-07-2004 09:03 PM

what about viking metal(amon amarth)

neo-pagan black metal (mayhem)

brutal(sp) death metal (death of millions, deception)

dark metal (throes of dawn)

and i've noticed something in the metal gerne's as of late... they are starting to blend styles from other types of music together and this is alot like a movement in the late 70's early 80's called fusion... which produced such great bands as steely dan and many others

take opeth for example... they started out as a run of the mill death metal band but then they started getting influnces from jazz and other types of music and created their own sound. in flames... (yea i know they sold out really bad) while not on as grand of scale as opeth but all of the early in flames stuff was black metal (like the song Stand ablaze) and for the most part everything before the jester race album was decent black metal.
corrosion of conformity would fall under this as well because they started out as a hardcore band in 1983 i believe but they are now more of a blues rock/southern rock/blues metal(?) band... so these hard to classify bands i have just started calling them Fusion metal

CarpathianVampyre 05-07-2004 09:50 PM

Operatic Gothic Metal, or just Gothic metal is a different genre aswell, but good job you covered the majority of genres, there are so many sub genres one could go cross-eyed by reading them all lol

disasterpiece511 05-07-2004 10:31 PM

Great list, but Slipknot and Mudvayne are not nu metal. Sticking them in the same category as P.O.D and Papa Roach is really desicrating.

loki153 05-07-2004 11:32 PM

they are both the sterio-typical mid western nu-metal... a bit heavier then the rest and faster but nu-metal is nu-metal and they are both definatly nu-metal

the sock 05-08-2004 08:14 AM

could someone clear up the differance between speed and thrash plz? ive seen 2 confliction statments in this thread, so i want it cleared up for me :)

-Sic MaggoT 7- 05-08-2004 09:36 AM

suck godsmack, killswitch engage and shadows fall aren't heavy metal
bastard, they're cool but no heavy metal

loki153 05-08-2004 09:39 AM

godsmack and killswitch both suck but shadows fall used to be great

XpltinmwarlckX 05-08-2004 09:18 PM

you forgot grindcore

Kaden 05-08-2004 09:21 PM

[SIZE=5]ATTENTION PEOPLE: PLEASE READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING. MARDUKS DIDN'T GET ALL GENRES, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DEFINED THEM. IF NO ONE HAS DONE A GENRE, QUIT BITCHING AND DO IT YOURSELF.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=1]This thread is really starting to piss me off...[/SIZE]

CarpathianVampyre 05-08-2004 09:47 PM

lmfao

sickgoregrind_666 05-10-2004 05:29 AM

Well although categorising is very helpful to most what about certain bands that cannot be categorised i.e opeth. I wouldnt call them death, melodic death, black or anything just Opeth

Jondur 05-10-2004 06:20 AM

I could have sworn someone had done grindcore.... Oh well if not:

Grindcore:

As it's name suggests, grindcore is an extension of the UK hardcore scene of the early 80's. It's roots lie mainly with Discharge but also Chaos UK, Crass, The Exploited etc. Songs are predominantly short (taken to the extreme by the likes of Napalm Death - Dead is 6 seconds long - and Sore Throat who had 101 songs on Never Mind the Napalm.... here's Sore Throat), with punk structures. The music is simple, based around a few chords. It is , most importantly, fast. Very fast. It was grindcore that had the first blast beats (It was Pete Sandoval who introduced them to Death Metal when he left Terrorizer to join Morbid Angel). Lyrics are usually socio-political. Sometimes with a vegan or straight-edge slant.

Important bands include: Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, Extreme Noise Terror, Bolt Thrower, Sore Throat, Old Lady Drivers, A$$uck, Nausea, Black Army Jacket, CSSO.

Goregrind is a subgenre that keeps the punky structure of Grindcore but adds more of a death metal influence. Lyrics are always about gorey killing etc.

See: Carcass, Repulsion, Agoraphobic Nosebleed etc

Noisecore is pointless but related to an extent.

Vitriolic Rage 05-10-2004 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]I could have sworn someone had done grindcore.... Oh well if not:

Grindcore:

As it's name suggests, grindcore is an extension of the UK hardcore scene of the early 80's. It's roots lie mainly with Discharge but also Chaos UK, Crass, The Exploited etc. Songs are predominantly short (taken to the extreme by the likes of Napalm Death - Dead is 6 seconds long - and Sore Throat who had 101 songs on Never Mind the Napalm.... here's Sore Throat), with punk structures. The music is simple, based around a few chords. It is , most importantly, fast. Very fast. It was grindcore that had the first blast beats (It was Pete Sandoval who introduced them to Death Metal when he left Terrorizer to join Morbid Angel). Lyrics are usually socio-political. Sometimes with a vegan or straight-edge slant.

Important bands include: Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, Extreme Noise Terror, Bolt Thrower, Sore Throat, Old Lady Drivers, A$$uck, Nausea, Black Army Jacket, CSSO.

Goregrind is a subgenre that keeps the punky structure of Grindcore but adds more of a death metal influence. Lyrics are always about gorey killing etc.

See: Carcass, Repulsion, Agoraphobic Nosebleed etc

Noisecore is pointless but related to an extent.[/QUOTE]
Noisecore is awful, I've heard one noisecore 'song' called Grinding Blur, by Corporate Bomb Threat, it's just 8 seconds of noise that sounds like an amp with a stomach ache.
By the way, what are Anal Cunt classed as? I'd say a cross between grindcore and punk.

studio virgins 05-11-2004 10:55 AM

thats all well and good but shouldnt it be whatever floats our boat after all your only grouping things which isnt wright

loki153 05-11-2004 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=sickgoregrind_666]Well although categorising is very helpful to most what about certain bands that cannot be categorised i.e opeth. I wouldnt call them death, melodic death, black or anything just Opeth[/QUOTE]

see my post on what i call "fusion metal"

tbreak 05-11-2004 08:17 PM

what would meshuggah be classed as? I always thought it might be progressive death metal

epifreak2002 05-12-2004 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=studio virgins]thats all well and good but shouldnt it be whatever floats our boat after all your only grouping things which isnt wright[/QUOTE]

Can anyone tell me just what the f[COLOR=White]u[/COLOR]ck this guy's talking about?

sickgoregrind_666 05-12-2004 07:46 AM

[QUOTE=loki153]see my post on what i call "fusion metal"[/QUOTE]
OK cheers very much, i didn't notice that

Jon 05-12-2004 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=loki153]godsmack and killswitch both suck but shadows fall used to be great[/QUOTE]

Killswitch own.

Prowler in the Yard 05-12-2004 10:31 AM

i havent looked through but was stoner metal mentioned at all? bongzilla and the likes of them

Jon 05-12-2004 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=the sock]could someone clear up the differance between speed and thrash plz? ive seen 2 confliction statments in this thread, so i want it cleared up for me :)[/QUOTE]
Briefly:

Thrash-
You know the score. Hard hitting, heavy, fast. Metallica, early Testament & so on.

Speed-
The faster bits of NWOBHM which influenced most thrash. Those bands, just evolved to around the same period as thrash. Like Motorhead. Not as heavy as thrash, but just as fast.


On Kill 'Em All for example,
Motorbreath (speed) c.f. No Remorse (thrash)

Geddit?

loki153 05-12-2004 02:13 PM

killswitch sux... i hate all hardcore/metalcore

amomentofviolence 05-12-2004 08:25 PM

props are deserved here

sickgoregrind_666 05-13-2004 03:04 AM

[QUOTE=loki153]killswitch sux... i hate all hardcore/metalcore[/QUOTE]
So killswitch are a poor band because you don't like the category of music they are in?

That sounds a bit silly really, i'm not a huge fan of hardcore and metalcore but killswitch are great i think, among others.

pennyroyaltea10 05-13-2004 04:22 PM

most excellent :chug:

pennyroyaltea10 05-13-2004 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=loki153]killswitch sux... i hate all hardcore/metalcore[/QUOTE]
whats your problem :confused:

pennyroyaltea10 05-13-2004 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=loki153]godsmack and killswitch both suck but shadows fall used to be great[/QUOTE]
i love godsmack :wave:

Kaden 05-13-2004 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=pennyroyaltea10]i love godsmack :wave:[/QUOTE]
Me too :D


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