Hey Shaded...that guy is a goof ball..
Your doing real well for just starting out...

Jay

[quote]Hey Shaded...that guy is a goof ball..[/quote]I'm fully aware... .goof balls can be fun sometimes, but never when taken seriously. I've added a little bit from Five Pointe O's "untitled" onto my soundclick account... give it a listen when you have the time.. thanks Jay.

i am a beginner screamer and i am wondering why after i scream my falsetto voice is gone but my regular voice is fine?

you're probably screaming in a rough fashion through your falsetto voice.

[QUOTE=majestic]i am a beginner screamer and i am wondering why after i scream my falsetto voice is gone but my regular voice is fine?[/QUOTE]

I also find that when my voice isn't in good shape (dehydrated, sore etc) my falsetto is the first to go. I'm not sure why though.

Hey Guys, Usually when you punish your voice or push it too hard, & hell, we all do...I am just as guilty with all my training..lol
The falsetto goes first because your vocal chords become taunt & cannot vibrate in a normal manner, so once your falsetto voice is totally blown, like only a whisper comes out, you need to rest you voice for at least two days to let some healing take place...
Hot tea with honey...works well, & I use Chloroseptic, when there is any throat pain. so, if this happens consistantly, it means you are singing wrong & lessons will help you build up your voice , so this only happens once in a while & not constantly.

Jay

but if i lose my falsetto does that mean i am doing it right and just pushing to hard or something or am i screaming the wrong way?

but if i lose my falsetto does that mean i am doing it right and just pushing to hard or something or am i screaming the wrong way?

but if i lose my falsetto does that mean i am doing it right and just pushing to hard or something or am i screaming the wrong way?

Your just pushing your falsetto way too much. To produce falsetto your folds have to completly thin and they don't vibrate at all. Thats what makes its FALSEtto. The breath is what's producing the sound. So when you push and your fold's swell, they can't thin completley and your falsettos gone. To bring it back first relax then sing up and down scales on the vowel EE as in TEETH. Do this from your lowest to your highest. Don't worry about sound, just form

You can lose your falsetto without using it at all. Just drink tons of water, sing soft excersises, and don't push if it doesn't feel good.

K so first off... Unsound THanx for taking the time to post this. I havnt tried any fo this yet, but have been looking for a guide for months now and none were as well thought out and... hilarious :D SO yeah Thanks. Oh and if you guys havnt heard these guys yet.... check them out. I think 3/4 members in this band (Fear Before The March Of Flames) scream and they all have slightly diffrent screams... they rule... check it out...
[url]http://www.purevolume.com/fearbeforethemarchofflames[/url]

Hey jay maybe you can help me out i was wondering if i might be screwing up my singning voice by screaming. I'm usually pretty careful about it. How i started out was i screamed (sang some too) for a half hour every day after school before anyone got home for a few months. At first my voice would get all low and i would sound like a frog and cough alot. Now, i can get through a two hour band practice without my voice even hurting the least bit. Soo here is a clip of my screaming on soundclick and tell me what you think (its a few months old its way better now) I did not use a microphone i was singing along to killswitch engage into a crappy tape recorder. Any tips for me?

peace
jeff

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/leadhead[/url] (click on the vocal demo one)

oh yeah ps im doing it along with a stereo in the backround the one with the lower voice is me

Leadhead - I can't give you any advice, but I just want to say that I like your scream - it's more of a growl... if you could post the technique as to how to do that, it would be greatly appreciated, since i would like to find out how to do it.

Yeah thats a great scream you got there, man. I can do a decent low-mid range scream off of a mic, except i dont have a microphone to record myself with, nor an amp of any sort.

Anyways, with my kind of singing i want to achieve, I want to try and sing like Slipknot and Mudvayne.

Its come to my attention that you use your falsetto to scream high pitches. If anyone knows Story of the year -- Anthem of our dying day, I wanna know how to do that kinda high scream he does. Its been explained a little bit how to do a pitch like that, except i never did completely understand.

so to cut things short, i would appreciate if someone told me how to do the following:

1. How to do a falsetto scream
2. And correct me if im wrong, falsetto is like when you make girly sounds, really high pitched notes? I need some clarification...
3. what kind of screams to slipknot and mudvayne do?

I just push out all the air i can with my diaphram, although im not growling i just have a low voice. You have to have confidence when you do it just scream your head off and you'll get it eventually. Your diaphram is what you use when you want to push out a really big ****, use that. I use my throught alot latley when i scream, all the teqniques will come to you eventually it takes a few months.

But its so loud... well it seems that way anyway. I heard using your throat when you scream could completely paralyze your vocal chords, so i dont do that anymore, i just use stomache; i mean diaphragm, and push really hard ;D

I read all the god **** 15 pages ! Let me tell you that all those tips are really itneresting ! I'll try all of them as soon as I have time .. My friends and I sometime jam just for the fun of it on death/black metal songs and I am the singer/screamer/growler. I was wondering if my techniques for growling and screeching are ok because I practiced a lot and the only thing that hurts when I really do it loud is the muscles around my throat that are constantly contracted when I tighten or widen my throat. My vocal chords seem ok but I've been doing this since the last 6 months.. Here's some samples from an account that I just created on soundclick. A few feedbacks would be appreciated. There is three samples, one of them is me growling for 12 seconds, the other is me, screeching at 6 feet from my microphone (I wanted to avoid Distortion) and the last one is a crappy song caricaturizing a grindcore death metal song like Cannibal Corpse(I dont really like CC but it fitted what we wanted to do). The music is made using a midi sequencer and all the song was created and recorded in an hour and a half at 3 am. lol so don't take it seriously, in fact, the song is funny in its ugliness but it still gives a good idea of my growling skills! The high pitch scream is by my friend, i'm doing the whispers and the low growls ... I don't want feedbacks for my friend.. He had a cold anyway !

Links : [url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/malegothbabesmusic.htm[/url]

Thank you for all the tips ! ;)

[QUOTE=Teh1337Darklink]But its so loud... well it seems that way anyway. I heard using your throat when you scream could completely paralyze your vocal chords, so i dont do that anymore, i just use stomache; i mean diaphragm, and push really hard ;D[/QUOTE]


Yeah i'm using a TAPE recorder with no microphone and I haven't had any problems using my throught when I scream. That clip is old maybe i'll post a new one over the summer if my band records.

Lol oh... sounds like its a stereo, with a cheap 5$ microphone recording. I tried to record my screaming once. it sounded like so much ***. Anyway, i dont know how to get a body on my scream, its just a scream. Like i mean.. i can go low, to low-mid, to low-high and thats about it. If i use my throat i can go higher and such, but i duno ifthats such a good idea.

I dunno man. I'm no expert

dis helped me aton thank you. becu im in a industrial rock bands singer i have to scream alot and have to take several tries when recording this helped aton

Thats ok....

so what you do is use your throat, and stomache?.... ;/

I gotta try it sometime.

I'm not too sure what I do, I posted a newer clip which i recorded today. I didn't warm up at all but I think my voice got lower over this past year, tell me if you agree. Anyways IM also looking to have better throught control than I have like the messhuggah vocalist possibly? Wheres jay at lol.

Anyways darklink dont worry about technique too much just when you start gettin tired stop and you'll get more and more throught strength. I think the mudvayne singer had the best advice about screaming, just scream your head off all the time. It takes a few months to get a hold of.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/leadhead[/url]

click on the new vocal demo can anyone help me out here

sweet, alright man i'll check it out. Thanks alot.

and jay, where;'d you go? :O


Edit: I listned to it, sounds great. All you need is a mic, and amp, with some drums, guitars, and some other stuff in the background, and your set !

[QUOTE=Teh1337Darklink]sweet, alright man i'll check it out. Thanks alot.

and jay, where;'d you go? :O


Edit: I listned to it, sounds great. All you need is a mic, and amp, with some drums, guitars, and some other stuff in the background, and your set ![/QUOTE]

Hey Guys sorry to be away for so long, but I have been on the road meeting with publishers & distributors to make sure our debut CD is released worldwide, and then setting up recording dates & mastering dates in Los Angeles, and finally , setting up my on-line rock vocal clinic (whew)...
It's late here in Chicago, but I promise in the morning I will go thru this whole thread & try to give some help...
Keep Rockin'

Jay

Jay > Is there any news on what happening with your rock vocal clinic yet?

[QUOTE=Harmonisation]Jay > Is there any news on what happening with your rock vocal clinic yet?[/QUOTE]

Hey Harmonisation there is...
We were delayed a few weeks, cause my web designers Mac blew up, but thinkg are back on track . We are opening the site up late next week, around June 3 or 4th hopefully.
You can go to [url]www.rock-vocals.com[/url] for some info, or if interested send me an e mail at [email]jay@rock-vocals.com[/email] .
I have had 18 people sign up for the pre- launch, so about 20 more spots are open..
Take Care

Jay Link

ive heard chester (from linkin park) screams he can have up to like 3 different notes. is that true. & what about bert mccracken from the used. he screams so hard he pukes in his shows. bert & chester have the best screams ever. give me some kinda idea on how to scream like each of them... e-mail me. [email]travis_walls_22@hotmail.com[/email]

Jay > Ive just sent you a mail dude, so if you could get back to me in your spare time it would be appreciated. Thanks =)