View Full Version : CotM (12/3/09): Black Star - Most Def and Talib Kweli Are Black Star [1998]

12-03-2009, 06:02 AM

While Puff Daddy and his followers continued to dictate the direction hip-hop would take into the millennium, Mos Def and Talib Kweli surfaced from the underground to pull the sounds in the opposite direction. Their 13 rhyme fests on this superior, self-titled debut as Black Star show that old-school rap still sounds surprisingly fresh in the sea of overblown vanity productions. There's no slack evident in the tight wordplays of Def and Kweli as they twist and turn through sparse, jazz-rooted rhythms calling out for awareness and freedom of the mind. Their viewpoints stem directly from the teachings of Marcus Garvey, the legendary activist who fought for the rights of blacks all around the world in the first half of the 20th century. Def and Kweli's ideals are sure lofty; not only are they out to preach Garvey's words, but they also hope to purge rap music of its negativity and violence. For the most part, it works. Their wisdom-first philosophy hits hard when played off their lyrical intensity, a bass-first production, and stellar scratching. While these MCs don't have all of the vocal pizzazz of A Tribe Called Quest's Phife and Q-Tip at their best, flawless tracks like the cool bop of "K.O.S. (Determination)" and "Definition" hint that Black Star is only the first of many brilliantly executed positive statements for these two street poets.


12-03-2009, 06:31 AM
Was listening to this last week, definitely a classic.

12-03-2009, 08:59 AM
never even HEARD of this album

12-03-2009, 02:05 PM
one two three

12-03-2009, 03:54 PM
never really got into this. always came off as something for the Sublime crowd in my opinion.

Tits McGee
12-03-2009, 05:08 PM
really good album

12-03-2009, 06:23 PM
never really got into this. always came off as something for the Sublime crowd in my opinion.

lol 123

it has a few good tracks and has what is probably talib kweli's best rapping, but i dont think its a very strong album overall

12-03-2009, 06:49 PM
yeah i never got the big deal about this, i don't care for talib, he's tolerable on this i guess but mos def has definitely done better

12-04-2009, 02:21 AM
talib is awesome as a guest rapper. mos def is a solid rapper. neither of them can really carry an album especially when all the ones they do are like 18 tracks.

12-04-2009, 02:43 AM
I was so stoked I got to see them perform this summer. They only did four or five tracks, but it was awesome.

12-04-2009, 03:47 AM
yeah im excited for bs2 if it ever comes out. love both gentlemen.

if youre thirsting for more talib, check the new idle warship free mixtape

01-06-2010, 05:49 AM
how so? this album and these guys are so important from both a sampling and mceeing point of view. at least explain what youre blabbering aobut

01-06-2010, 09:28 PM
yeah Im pretty much convinced this is a classic -- yep.

01-06-2010, 10:27 PM
Talib's new mixtape is good.

01-09-2010, 09:58 PM
definately a classic. they play off each other so well. can't wait for bs2 if it ever unveils itself