View Full Version : 13" Meinl Byzance Darks Hats

Drum Phil
01-15-2008, 01:22 PM
13" Dark Hats


Designed to recreate the old turkish sound from a different perspective


No obvious flaws in the hammering. Thin, even weight with no "soft spots".


170 aprox. Given zildjian charges nearly 400 for its "Constantinople" series, this is a VERY fair price for something thats actually closer to the sound of the old K's.


As the name suggests, these hats are insanely dark due to the lack of lathing. They have a quick response, a tight chick and a lot of wash when allowed to open up. My experience with hats has taught me that you cant really take your foot off the pedal and leave them to their own devices while you play them. These however can be played open and uncontrolled without them misbehaving. The closed sound is tight, sharp and oh so dark, while the open sound roars and all of this is accompanied by a gorgeous, quick foot chick.

Contrary to zildjians attempt at the old K sound, byzances are both hand hammered and made in turkey.


If you're looking for something that'll fit well into jazz, then you better get your wallet out. If you want a dark, vintage K sound then these are for you. Despite the jazz crowd obviously being in mind when these were made, they fit well into everything i play, including metal/punk.



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Bottom hat

01-15-2008, 09:47 PM
Those are beautiful hats, and a great review.

Drum Phil
01-16-2008, 01:15 PM
They're visually and aurally pleasing :) Who could say no to them?

01-16-2008, 02:37 PM
the blind and the deaf.

double stroke roller
01-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Those are great looking hats Phil. What cymbal set up do you play with those?

Drum Phil
01-17-2008, 12:04 PM
Right now?

13" Byzance Dark Hats
18" Byzance Dark Crash
6" Zilbel
20" Zildjian Platinum Rock Ride
19" Sabian AAXplosion

Normally, my full rig.

01-17-2008, 05:25 PM
the blind and the deaf.

Loved it

01-18-2008, 02:49 PM
Dark Byzance = hot and sexy

03-09-2008, 09:03 AM
i have a pair of 13" medium byzance hats and i do love them, i need to have play on a pair of darks though, the look is so damn cool

03-09-2008, 09:08 AM
Looks aint everything.

03-10-2008, 09:06 AM
Quite. But those are some attractive cymbals.

03-10-2008, 09:18 AM
Personally I find them repulsive lol

Gimmie either of these two any day



03-10-2008, 10:25 AM
rudes are the ugliest cymbals EVER.

03-10-2008, 10:32 AM
I rather like em

03-10-2008, 10:58 AM
The rudes i've seen look fairly similar to Byzance darks. The only difference, to my eyes, is that rudes have a more uniform hammering pattern and an uglier logo.

03-10-2008, 08:34 PM
I object to Turkish cymbals being named after Byzantium, what with them being enemies n all. Whatever, I want those hats.

03-11-2008, 02:19 PM
im not a fan of that rude logo...

03-11-2008, 03:59 PM
I own these hats and I absolutely love them. I don't even play that much jazz but I like these regardless of what kind of music I am playing, they sound amazing at all times.