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ToRidTheDisease
11-02-2004, 05:25 PM
Anyone on here other than me like them? Discuss.

Richy_833
11-02-2004, 05:44 PM
No, they suck, ****ing screaming, can't ****ing stand it.

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 05:49 PM
They are ok now, but they were better before they got famous. Jesse, the old singer, had a better clean voice, as for the screams, they sound about the same. I was really upset with the end of heartache(the song) it sucks. the album is alright though.

Ramsey
11-02-2004, 06:04 PM
Yes

HugsForDrugs69
11-02-2004, 06:06 PM
i like them, end of heartache is a good cd

Permanent Solution
11-02-2004, 06:06 PM
I like em. Talented nu-metal is always a plus :thumb:

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 06:08 PM
They aren't talented nu metal. Are they? I thought they were just metal.

Kwash2
11-02-2004, 06:09 PM
I like em. Talented nu-metal is always a plus :thumb:
Metalcore man.

SokeSleezy
11-02-2004, 06:13 PM
yea their pretty good....

HugsForDrugs69
11-02-2004, 06:13 PM
i thought they were more thrash metal

BludgeonySteve
11-02-2004, 06:14 PM
Nope. Not my style.

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 06:19 PM
Yea, metalcore fits them better. But they call themselves metal.

EonBlueApcolyps
11-02-2004, 06:33 PM
nope

ToRidTheDisease
11-02-2004, 06:42 PM
Good to see others like them, I usually get flamed for liking them.

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 06:44 PM
We're all friends here. :D

caspian
11-02-2004, 06:44 PM
KsE rock. end of heartache is awesome, though AOJB is much better, a classic IMO.

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 06:46 PM
If you like em, check out numb sickened eyes, its from their self titled album and it is awesome.

ToRidTheDisease
11-02-2004, 06:47 PM
KsE rock. end of heartache is awesome, though AOJB is much better, a classic IMO.
IMO EOH is their best cd, I just like how the sound is improved and they are more melodic but heavy at the same time.

HugsForDrugs69
11-02-2004, 06:47 PM
KsE rock. end of heartache is awesome, though AOJB is much better, a classic IMO.

u r so kool, IMO

caspian
11-02-2004, 06:48 PM
"IMO EOH is their best cd, I just like how the sound is improved and they are more melodic but heavy at the same time."

true but the problem with EOH is that the choruses sound a bit too similar. And they're a bit more predicateble then they where in AOJB.

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 06:50 PM
"IMO EOH is their best cd, I just like how the sound is improved and they are more melodic but heavy at the same time."

true but the problem with EOH is that the choruses sound a bit too similar. And they're a bit more predicateble then they where in AOJB.

yea, I noticed that right away too.

caspian
11-02-2004, 06:55 PM
except for the title track, its always "heavy verse, light chorus" and so on. I wonder how they're gonna change they're sound too, because they can't keep on making albums like this. They'll either stagnate or have to find some way to change.

black_sabbath634
11-02-2004, 06:57 PM
i find their songs extremley annoying

Misfitted_Mecha
11-02-2004, 06:57 PM
Nooo thank you

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 07:04 PM
is it just me or have they sold out or are slowly selling out?

evh_maiden
11-02-2004, 07:04 PM
AOJB is excellent and End of heartache just doesn't live up to it IMO. I think Howard is better with Blood has been shed. End of heartache is still a decent album but nothing like AOJB

killswitchlog
11-02-2004, 07:07 PM
i like them.
on AoJB i like every song 1-12. TEoH is good i like When D Falls, Rose o S, Wasted S, Take this oath, EoH, and a few others, the instrumentals, it's all good

xboddahx
11-02-2004, 07:08 PM
True, I really liked jesse :upset: . And when I first heard howard on fixation on the darkness video, I was very upset.

iliketoplaydrums10111
11-02-2004, 07:10 PM
I loved AJOB so much better, I liked maybe 4 songs on EoH, but there good overall

Itwasthatwas
11-02-2004, 10:43 PM
AOJB is excellent and End of heartache just doesn't live up to it IMO. I think Howard is better with Blood has been shed. End of heartache is still a decent album but nothing like AOJB

Exactly. The End of Heartache is so boring and unimaginative compared to AOJB...

Kwash2
11-02-2004, 10:49 PM
God, stop with all the acronyms. Ow...

devil_driver
11-02-2004, 11:03 PM
They butchered 'The End of Heartache' for the video.

ArcLite
11-03-2004, 12:34 AM
They butchered 'The End of Heartache' for the video.

They certainly did, pissed me off. But all in all I like them a lot. When darkness falls or Rose of sharyn probably my favorite song. Lots of cool riffs.

shadow_stalker
11-03-2004, 03:32 AM
i dont like them, ive only heared one song and it sucked

BoboTheRagingHobo
11-03-2004, 03:56 AM
i dont like them, ive only heared one song and it sucked


Well are'nt you shallow and quick to judge...

Dannyboy15
11-03-2004, 03:58 AM
horrible, horrible band nothing good has or will come out of metalcore.

Sep
11-03-2004, 04:01 AM
They are ok. I voted yes.

yourface
11-03-2004, 04:26 AM
horrible, horrible band nothing good has or will come out of metalcore.

4 words for you....

The Dillinger Escape Plan

thats at least one good thing, but i could go on all day. So think before you decied to open your ill informed mouth.

rik
11-03-2004, 07:08 AM
"Alive or just breathing" was a fantastic album, so was their self titled. I was well looking forward for the end of heartache to come out, and when it did I was very dissapointed, they have definetly gone downhill.

JACK!
11-03-2004, 07:33 AM
is it just me or have they sold out or are slowly selling out?

Agreed, I started a thred about this a while back but it seems like most people prefer this mellow style. Getting too close to emo for my liking though. Still, what ever floats you're boat.

jackal420
11-03-2004, 08:42 AM
KsE Is definately a yes
and live they kick ***, but the first two albums are definately better especially AOJB, every song is FU**ING killer, and yes they are metalcore.

CaptainWaits
11-03-2004, 09:35 AM
It's tought to say....I voted for Yes cuz I'm in a good mood.......I own "End of Heartache" but it's just got old to quickly..........But for new music there probably one of the best if not the best.

Killseng
11-03-2004, 09:41 AM
Oh......yes.

Killseng
11-03-2004, 09:43 AM
Yea i have a question i thought Kill switch engage was a game.

rik
11-03-2004, 09:51 AM
Yea i have a question i thought Kill switch engage was a game.

Not really a question, just a stupid comment.

MazMan
11-03-2004, 10:31 AM
KsE rule, AOJB is just a fantastic album, TEOH isn't as good IMO, they kinda went too melodic in their parts, but TEOH is still a album to get.

Black-Bass
11-03-2004, 10:43 AM
HELL YES!!!they kick ***, all the albums, both singers--although i do like Howard better, but that is my opinion

Nalphe
11-03-2004, 10:53 AM
Yes!!
KsE, one of my fav bands! melodic yet hardcore, my fav!!
and i think howard's better....
the video "rose of sharyln", really cool!! \m/

emo_sucks
11-03-2004, 11:21 AM
i like them, the end of heartache is good in my opinion

ESPMorote
11-03-2004, 11:42 AM
i think killswitch engage is awesome both cd's are great alice or just breathing is a lil better because jessie's vocals are real awesome on it but guitar wise i think end of heart ache wins but over all there both great cd's :thumb:

The Depressed
11-03-2004, 11:58 AM
The End Of Heartache is still one of my favourite albums ever. There really isn't a song on it that I don't like, and there aren't that many albums I can say that about.

They put on a hell of a live show, too. Adam D is a funny bastard.

Dannyboy15
11-03-2004, 12:41 PM
4 words for you....

The Dillinger Escape Plan

thats at least one good thing, but i could go on all day. So think before you decied to open your ill informed mouth.

I don't like them either. My opinion still stands.

Though a7x isn't terribly bad.

-Obscurity-
11-03-2004, 12:56 PM
KSE rocks, I do prefer Jesse's singing, but Howard has done an awesome job. Adam writes killer riffs and even played drums on and produced AOJB. I don't care too much for the radio version of the song "The End of Heartache". The CD version is cool though.

.Realm.of.Chaos.
11-03-2004, 01:41 PM
YES.

They are coming to Calgary soon I hope to catch their show with Unearth, too bad Slipknot is playing with them :(

ninjamonkey
11-03-2004, 04:05 PM
They butchered 'The End of Heartache' for the video.

What do you mean by that?

Jaded
11-03-2004, 04:08 PM
i find their songs extremley annoying
Nobody likes a fanboy.

ESPF400FM
11-03-2004, 04:39 PM
i think they are awesome. The screaming and then switching to liek soft singing is the only real problem i have with them. One of the guitarists is actually has a major in guitar. He also played drums on one of the from autumn to ashes albums. And yes he got the major from Boston College of Music. Same as Petrucci. I believe he also did all the recording for KSE's cds too

Itwasthatwas
11-03-2004, 05:00 PM
i think they are awesome. The screaming and then switching to liek soft singing is the only real problem i have with them. One of the guitarists is actually has a major in guitar. He also played drums on one of the from autumn to ashes albums. And yes he got the major from Boston College of Music. Same as Petrucci. I believe he also did all the recording for KSE's cds too


1) What's the problem with mixing screaming and singing? Singing the time results in boring music, but although screaming is awesome, its not particularly interesting to listen to music without any vocal variation. Its like listening to a CD with the same riff repeated over and over again *cough* numetal *cough*

2) Oh wow, he has a major in guitar, are we supposed to be impressed? Going to university doesn't make you good at what you do. Lots of people graduate without being particular proficient in what they do.

3) I was under the impression that Petrucci graduated from Berklee. And even if I'm wrong, going to the same school doesn't mean anything.

I do like them though, but mostly just for Alive or Just Breathing.

xboddahx
11-03-2004, 06:01 PM
Why do you guys say howard is better, wtf?!

Invicta_Veritas
11-03-2004, 06:19 PM
Adam and jesse are killer fckin guitarists, howard is an exceptional singer. End of heartache was okay, alive or just breathing was better.

Daywalker
11-13-2004, 11:58 AM
Badass...

slaytalica25
11-13-2004, 12:10 PM
yes

i like alive or just breathing a little more, but end of heartache is still badass.

guitarmaniattic
11-13-2004, 12:30 PM
Hate 'um. Zacky Vengeance is a good guitar player though.

M3TaLbASsIST
11-13-2004, 12:39 PM
I just can't stand the singing.. I don't understand why they have to go from pretty hardcore metal to wussy *** singing crap.. The problem to me is that they go from one extreme to the other.. The singing could be done without being that whiney.. Other than that I think their music is pretty enjoyable.. I just fastforward through the lame *** parts.. :)

ekadeath
11-13-2004, 12:45 PM
No.

shane italian
11-13-2004, 12:47 PM
I dislike them.

Nalphe
11-13-2004, 12:58 PM
are they kind of like emo-core?

the_theory
11-13-2004, 01:14 PM
They are part of the new wave of american heavy metal along with shadows fall, arch enemy, chimeira, god forbid etc. I like them but on the end of heartache (album) the songs do sound very similar. Its always the screamy verse and then the melodic/anthemic chorus

dave grohl
11-13-2004, 01:16 PM
yer i do like them very much.

Candiria92
11-13-2004, 01:31 PM
They aren't bad, but I don't see what a lot of other people see in them. I like a few of their songs but I wouln't go to a show to see them.

Originally Posted by Dannyboy15
horrible, horrible band nothing good has or will come out of metalcore.

How about:
Shadows Fall(though I don't consider them Metalcore)
Lamb Of God
God Forbid
Trivium
Bleeding Through
Himsa
Unearth... Just to name a couple


Originally Posted by yourface
4 words for you....

The Dillinger Escape Plan

thats at least one good thing, but i could go on all day. So think before you decied to open your ill informed mouth.

Dillinger aren't Metalcore

BludgeonySteve
11-13-2004, 01:33 PM
They're average. There should be a middle option.

iammetalcore
11-13-2004, 01:36 PM
DEP are technical metal/neo-thrash metal.
There is nothing wrong with clean singing in metal.
Jesse is a better singer, but Howard is indeed talented.
Both Adam and Jesse are indeed killer guitarists.
Alive or just Breathing is slightly better, but I like the change to end Of Heartache.

However, I have not heard anybody mention the actual self titled album, Killswitch Engage. I believe it is the best of the three by far.

ToRidTheDisease
11-13-2004, 01:39 PM
Hate 'um. Zacky Vengeance is a good guitar player though.
Wrong band.

MetalNightBodomNight
11-13-2004, 01:40 PM
i don't like much american metal but i guess killswitch engage is alright.

ToRidTheDisease
11-13-2004, 01:41 PM
i don't like much american metal but i guess killswitch engage is alright.
Kick *** MXname.

guitarmaniattic
11-13-2004, 01:43 PM
Hate 'um. Zacky Vengeance is a good guitar player though.Wrong band for Zacky Vengeance. I was thinking of Avenged Sevenfold. I am a freagin idiot. :amaze:

Dannyboy15
11-14-2004, 07:39 PM
They aren't bad, but I don't see what a lot of other people see in them. I like a few of their songs but I wouln't go to a show to see them.



How about:
Shadows Fall(though I don't consider them Metalcore)
Lamb Of God
God Forbid
Trivium
Bleeding Through
Himsa
Unearth... Just to name a couple


I don't like many of those either. Most of them sound alot alike, and have no uniqueness to them.

Fat people are hard to kidnap
11-14-2004, 08:03 PM
bah, too much sreaming, if you're going to scream, do it well, or just growl (but that'd better be good too)

Griffin_Page
11-14-2004, 08:15 PM
Not my kind of music. Plus, the singer and guitarist with the sideburns bug me.

dracma
11-14-2004, 08:17 PM
i like them but after some time it gets boring so there ok for me

themoor666
11-14-2004, 08:48 PM
I liked them way more with Jesse Leach on vocals... but they are still badass

RavenousMetalist87
11-14-2004, 08:55 PM
Alive or Just Breathing > End of Heartache

I feel that Alive or Just Breathing had more "heaviness", better lyrics, and overall, sounded much more what "metal" should be. Now for "End of Heartache"? It just sounded like mainly every other metalcore band out today.

Itwasthatwas
11-14-2004, 09:09 PM
^Most truthful thing I've heard all day.

Malakian Worshipper
11-15-2004, 12:55 AM
i dont really hate Killswitch, or most other music (xcept for Linkin Park, naturally), but they just dont come out to me, so to speak, and make me listen to them, in other words, THEY'RE NOT THAT SPECIAL!

metdrummer
11-15-2004, 02:51 AM
I liked AOJB allot, but EOH is pretty crap....

MetalMan
11-15-2004, 02:11 PM
I like them alot. I saw them live and they are very good.

Killseng
11-15-2004, 02:16 PM
Look at my username.

Wellenreiten
11-15-2004, 02:51 PM
KsE is friggin awesome..for a local band. w00t W.Mass

Seriously..yeah. I love them. One of my favorite bands right now.

Katana
11-15-2004, 03:29 PM
Has anyone else here noticed that Jesse Leech looks sort of like Tom Cruise? Top Gun-era?

Katana
11-15-2004, 03:33 PM
Not my kind of music. Plus, the singer and guitarist with the sideburns bug me.

Adam D.

Genius. Produces stuff. Good stuff. Stuff good. Produces good stuff good produce good.

smgsundevil
11-15-2004, 04:24 PM
is it just me or have they sold out or are slowly selling out?


ya they sorta are, but i still like 'em a lot, the end of heartache is a good CD, and also, they have mix of singing between all the yelling, its a good break from the constant screaming of metal. i dont kno if anyones with me on that one...

Big-Bird
11-15-2004, 04:25 PM
Not my cup of tea