^ Because you were discussing the merits of the drum parts instead of the instrument which your user name would suggest that you like...

Well, as a bassist, I'll be one to freely admit the bassline of Ticks and Leeches is not that hard, nor is it that good

[QUOTE=Nazi Bassist]Well, as a bassist, I'll be one to freely admit the bassline of Ticks and Leeches is not that hard, nor is it that good[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, but most people would have a hard time saying that about the drum part. :thumb:

*danny carey is genious for creating that pattern*

[QUOTE=Bartender]Heh...in brief;

in 1581, a Dr called John Dee (a renaissance type - mathematician, philosopher, astrologer, scientist in one) was employed as a mathematician in the English royal court. Can't quite remember how (and can't find the book to check), but he ended up being interested in divination and magic, so he and his medium (Edward Kelley) started communing with angels and such. Enochian was the language dictated to Kelley by the angels and deciphered by Dee - Dee also developed it into the Enochian system of magic and invocation(I remember theres a story told by whoever did the foreword for the book about a group he was with who were into this kinda thing who managed a communication with an angel called Laidrom), which has been used as a basis for magicks ever since - if you know who Aleister Crowley is (most serious Tool fans seem to), he used Enochian (theres even some of his recordings in Enochian available on CD).

Enochian was also apparently used by Elizabeth's (the queen in Dee's time) and some later monarchs' secret security force, as a coded language.[/QUOTE]


It seems like Blair from Toolband is trying to push occult theories onto fans of tool, which is too bad, it probably turns many off to this great band. You don't have to dabble in the occult to be a serious Tool fan. The band encourages you to question yourself and your beliefs, but you don't have to dive into something like that. You can enjoy the music and not have to do a lot of research; music shouldn't turn into homework.
Great CD though, my favorite track is Reflection, just for Maynard's creative singing. Great drumming throughout, especially on Ticks and Leeches.

Album Rating: 4.0

[QUOTE=ieatalotoftacos]You don't have to dabble in the occult to be a serious Tool fan. The band encourages you to question yourself and your beliefs, but you don't have to dive into something like that. You can enjoy the music and not have to do a lot of research; music shouldn't turn into homework.

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er...when did I say you did?



It just happens that I did, and the only reason I posted anything about the book/theories was because craigmac asked. If you read the review, I didn't talk about anything outside music and lyrics.

I consider myself a serious fan of Tool, but I really don't get into the occult or the Enochian or some of the other stuff that surrounds Tool...*shrug* it's not necessary to enjoy, or even analyze the music

Album Rating: 4.0

But did you know Aleister Crowley was?

[QUOTE=Bartender]But did you know Aleister Crowley was?[/QUOTE]

Heard the name mentioned...I have no idea who he/she is :p

oh my god

Album Rating: 4.0

^er, yeah, thanks for that...



[QUOTE=Nazi Bassist]

Heard the name mentioned...I have no idea who he/she is :p[/QUOTE]



Fair enough...I just meant that most of the serious Tool fans I knew at the time (which was and still is lamentably few) all knew about the stuff the band liked. I looked into it a little, but never investigated it too deeply.

[QUOTE=Bartender]^er, yeah, thanks for that...



Fair enough...I just meant that most of the serious Tool fans I knew at the time (which was and still is lamentably few) all knew about the stuff the band liked. I looked into it a little, but never investigated it too deeply.[/QUOTE]

Tool fans have gotten a bad rap by critics/idiots as being these overly intellectual people who dabble in all sorts of weird sh*t for the sake of being "weird" or "enlightened". I wouldn't mind looking more into the philosophies of Tool a bit more, but...it doesn't consume every fiber of my being like it does some Toolophiles

Tool fans also get a bad rep because, in a twist of irony, their blind devotion to a band that praises open-mindedness means that they boo opening acts at Tool's shows (including Tomahawk and Meshuggah) and refuse to accept others' opinions that Tool is not the greatest band in history.

Yeah, I like Tool, but I have some grounding in reality too.

[QUOTE=YDload]Tool fans also get a bad rep because, in a twist of irony, their blind devotion to a band that praises open-mindedness means that they boo opening acts at Tool's shows (including Tomahawk and Meshuggah) and refuse to accept others' opinions that Tool is not the greatest band in history.

Yeah, I like Tool, but I have some grounding in reality too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's another thing. Tool is not the greatest band in history...however they have had the greatest effect on my life, muscially, etc. So. Whoo. :cool:

^Exactly. A great band, but not gods. I'm glad some people understand!

[QUOTE=YDload]^Exactly. A great band, but not gods. I'm glad some people understand![/QUOTE]

I beg to differ. Danny is a god of drumming. Maynard is a demi-god of singing...and Adam and Justin are just damn good at what they do. :cool:

This, however, does not mean that there aren't other good bands. Tool is NOT the end-all

Album Rating: 5.0

whos the asshole who gave it a 3.5?

This album kicks unmeasureable ***

5/5

if you dont have it, buy it

Album Rating: 4.0

I lvoe this CD. I'm too lazy to review it.



I created an acoustic version of lateralus for one guitar only. Very awesome but very different than the original.

Whoa....must hear

Album Rating: 4.0

^Yeah, any chance of a posting in the Audio Arena?

Album Rating: 4.0

I shall try, I need to borrow my bands recorder for it. lots of harmonics.