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aok
January 10th 2021


4621 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

@ botb , problematic lyrics to Sweet But Psycho ? Dafuq?



@ alamo , Yeah, dunno Potsy's problem against ATC.



No love for the Derulo or Marina YouTube urls posted?

Sabrutin
January 10th 2021


9642 Comments


"problematic lyrics to Sweet But Psycho ? Dafuq?"

Can't stand Psycho either, romanticizing mental illnesses is beyond awful and the fact that nobody bats an eye is just sad

aok
January 10th 2021


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Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I heard "Sweet But Psycho'" is semi autobiographical though. You're drawing at straws man.



you're just like me. you're out your mind. I know it's strange, we're both the crazy kind. You're telling me that I'm insane? Boy don't pretend

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 10th 2021


70239 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I think a bunch of men getting offended about a woman writing about the "cute but crazy" trope is a bit cringe/ironic tbh but thats just my peripheral perspective i haven't deeply listened to the lyrics or anything

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 10th 2021


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I don't have a problem with ATC I dunno how you made that leap in logic from not liking that the album (on the version i peeped) opened with basically a glorified cover of an old pop classic

Sabrutin
January 10th 2021


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mmm apparently to defend herself she did say that it's meant as in pushing you to believe you are the crazy one. Doesn't really excuse it imo as the lyrics are quite literally "she's hot but a psycho" fantasy (bar a line that barely hints at her concept) through a catchy tune in a video with knives and whatnot

"I think a bunch of men getting offended about a woman..." is some godly material for the real name section of the profile lol

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 11th 2021


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lmao yeah it is



and i dunno i just feel like the "hot psycho" is such a malegaze trope to the point that i just kind of assume to give Ava the benefit of the doubt that she would be using it to make a point, you know what i mean? and as a guy being like "hey, Ava, NO, we don't portray women like that, that's problematic, BAD AVA" just feels a bit hypocritical

Sabrutin
January 11th 2021


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Ah I see, my bad if it came off as a gender thing

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 11th 2021


70239 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Its all good, just my opinion

Lord(e)Po)))ts
January 11th 2021


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I've just never really seen a "hot but psycho male" trope proliferating, or at least its much less common



So i assume this instance is reappropriation to serve a purpose/make a point



I don't think many women are out there actively trying to reinforce negative stereotypes of themselves

Sabrutin
January 12th 2021


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Oh no I wasn't rambling about women stereotypes but rather on the portrayal of a "psycho" as macabre revenge fantasy. No wonder Wiki says she did receive some flak from organizations when in the video she lights a dude on fire singing lines like "grab a cop gun kinda crazy"

ZackSh33
February 4th 2021


730 Comments


Not a bad pop album, but I'm torn between whether the super obvious samples and song lifts are strokes of genius or just annoying. They're freakin' everywhere.

ZackSh33
February 4th 2021


730 Comments


Kings and Queens - "You Give Love a Bad Name"
Torn - "Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! A Man After Midnight"
Call Me Tonight - "Relax, Take It Easy"
My Head & My Heart - "Around the World (La La La)"
Born to the Night - "Major Tom"

I know that pop albums commonly lift and sample from the past, but it's a little ridiculous that these are so easy to spot.



aok
March 24th 2021


4621 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Wow potsy sucks. Listen again. This a classic

aok
June 11th 2022


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I mostly just agree with alamo to an extent.

aok
June 11th 2022


4621 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

oh. ok.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
June 11th 2022


70239 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I will not listen again you suck too thanks



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