Why wouldn't it be music...
She has a wonderful voice I just don't she applys it to good songs. The only song of her's I really enjoyed was that single from "Glitter." :SThis Message Edited On 07.02.06

Mariah carey makes music purely for the money, as do countless other artists. if the record is terrible she still gets paid an extortative amount of money. music is a form of communication, what message is this album putting across?

It's not a matter a of opinion. It is music. Please tell me how something made up of pitches, melodies, harmonies, tones, and rhythms is not music.

Have you even listened to this album? And who are you to decide which artists make music for the money?

Is it something new innovative? fresh?
No it's the same old fomula-semi attractive woman, weak uninspired "music" and the media to dish it out.
In the good old days music was made for the love of music, not for the rewards that might follow. as far as im concerned music has become far too comercialised.

Album Rating: 4.0

Then clearly you don't realise the passion and love that went behind this album.



Her methods may be similar to previous albums, but your beloved classic rock bands did that too. They didn't release album after album of unheard sounds.

I don't want to hear your cliche rant on today's music industry, I want to know how this isn't music.

I'm embarassed for the CR regs right now. Although this guy doesn't come to the thread (thank god) he gives us a bad rep. Not to mention he doesn't even like good CR bands.
I'm not into her ballads and those songs usually ruin her albums for me and thats what happened here. "Loverboy" is her song that I really like. Glitter got torn apart. I'll stick to Rainbow for now :PThis Message Edited On 07.02.06

I have the same problem with slayer. Uninspired run-off.
I'm just glad the media are done grinding this album.
I will admit that it is hard to be innovative in this day and age, but what statement is being made here? Read some of the lyrics on this album, do they mean anything? They don't have you thinking or questioning anything.
I have a real problem with sellouts, mariah is selling out (once again) this time she has included a number of hip hop artists in her album, why? because it is considered mainstream at the moment. She is just following the trend of the times and amking an album for the sake of making an album. Do you guys consider rap music?

Are you seriously retarded? Yes rap is music why wouldn't it be...
Are you also calling Sonic Youth sell outs for having a rap artist on their album. Or how about Aerosmith? You know that whole thing with the rap group Run-DMC was just to jump start their dead career.This Message Edited On 07.02.06

A BLACK GUY WHO'S NOT JIMI HENDRIX OMG SELLOUT HEATHEN

How much talent can it posibly take to talk a whole lot of cr*p fast? all the beats a computer generated. I can see another page long argument coming, it's obvious we have different tastes in music. Small things amuse small minds, if a couple of untalented balck guy and a few beats do it for you then good, I personally prefer music that takes more than 5 minutes to make.

^ I actually like a number of "black guys" - Nat King cole, chuck berry, buddy guy, muddy waters, howling wolf ect.

You have no concept of how music is made or appreciation for it. Its one thing to be ignorant but another to ignore the facts.

Well it seems we've gone a bit off the topic, but anyway.
^Reply to Jacarada, yes I do consider anyone who incorperates rap into their act as a sellout to popular trends.
reply to iluvatar-Have you ever tried writing a guitar solo? takes a lot more than half a brain a computer and 5 minutes.

Sell out to popular trend? You do know rap has been a part of culture for at least 25 years? That is hell of a long trend. I'm trying to think if mullets out lasted that but I'm not sure. Also you have no clue what sell out means.

I am aware of what a sellout is, the question is do you?

Mariah Carey never changed her sound to get herself more popular she has always been the same person making the same type of music.
Thats it in a nut shell.
This album isn't a big step forward in terms of different sound the only difference between this and her S/T is a good 15 years and maturity.This Message Edited On 07.02.06

thank you i'll check it out.

^Reply to Jacarada, yes I do consider anyone who incorperates rap into their act as a sellout to popular trends.