"80% of this thread is going to be how awful the album art is"

So bad it literally kept me from pre-ordering the album; I have no idea who thought this was cool.

Listened to the initial singles, I'm game, but I don't think I'll really love it if they're any indication. Superb review.

Album Rating: 3.5

Last couple of songs are great, but otherwise this is the definition of mediocre.



Holy shit that album cover [846464874849393]



title track sucks ass too

Hold up now, OBAR was back to the glory days and then some. It's clear now that Red isn't Red without Rob Graves, but I can't say I'd call that album self-indulgent.

Album Rating: 3.5

I guess if I had to order Red's albums in terms of preference, I'd place this album below Until We Had Faces and above Release the Panic:



4.5 - Innocence and Instinct

4.0 - Of Beauty and Rage

3.5 - End of Silence

3.5 - Until We Have Faces

3.0 - Gone

2.5 - Release the Panic

2.0 - Release the Panic (Recalibrated)



I feel like the way the songs are ordered makes the album kind of a chore to listen to. The songs themselves aren't bad, but there's something about the way one leads into the next that kind of throws me. For example, I thought "Fracture" and "Chasing Your Echo" were one very long song, because I didn't really notice when one ended and the other began.



I did like "Unstoppable" much more than I was expecting to. I almost kind of wish they would do a cover on all of their albums, because I also thoroughly enjoyed "Ordinary World" from Innocence and Instinct.

The art looked cool from the thumbnail, i thought it was going to look all spacey and shit. But then the guy in front is just wearing a regular ass jacket and all the red is just from a couple signal flares.

Album Rating: 3.5

I liked the covers they used for the promotional singles much more than the album cover itself.



Honestly, I don't mind the album cover that much, but the shadow on Michael's face makes it look like he has a severely disfigured head or a tumor or something and it makes me uncomfortable.

Album Rating: 3.5

Man, I actually really enjoyed this. Surprised me somewhat. Only real dud I found was the Muse rip-off "Singularity".

Haha yeah just glancing at the small thumbnail it looks like they are about to put their hoods on and go lynching :-O yikes lol. At the end of the day I don't really care about album art, though.

I guess I'll have to try this. Doubt it will be anything near as good as their first two, but hey.

Also no big deal but "wack" should be "whack" in the first paragraph.

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah I'm settling for the 2.5 rating. It's not terrible, but it's just so damn mediocre. The band members are pretty much relying entirely on Michael Barnes vox and Rob Graves production now. The Armstrong brothers simply cannot write interesting memorable riffs to save their lives. Same problem with OBAR, but at least that record had plenty to choose from even though as a whole it kind of dragged a little.



The reason why their first couple of records worked is because they actually started as a full band. Jasen Rauch wrote solid catchy riffs (look no further than Shadows, Mystery Of You or Out From Under) and he is an accomplished composer/producer too. Every alt metal/nu metal band needs a solid guitar player or else there isn't much to look for. Sure this is catchy, and layered to death but holy hell are those guitars the most uninteresting thing ever.



Solid review btw

Album Rating: 2.0

The sound is somewhere Beauty and Rage (one of their best) and Release the Panic (their worst). I only find the band interesting at their best, so a mediocre release doesn't cut it. The synth stuff only works every so often (the first song was a pretty interesting mix, though not very good songwriting). Cheesy pop tunes are not Red's strength. The lyrics are so samey and predictable at this point it's an embarrassment.

Album Rating: 3.0

this band is really good when it comes to their heavier and darker stuff and I want them to do an album of just that.

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

couple solid songs but overall not great. their last album was pretty damn good so such a shame this is their follow up.

"this band is really good when it comes to their heavier and darker stuff and I want them to do an album of just that."

I feel like this is true with most alt/nu-metal type bands. They need to choose an extreme with each song, when they try to sit in the middle and play it safe with poppy stuff it often gets boring/shitty fast.

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah cheesy pop tunes is not what made them interesting and it does not suit them well. And also yes most alt/nu metal bands go into oblivion once they go full pop.

Album Rating: 3.5

This was more in line with how I wanted their last album to sound.

Album Rating: 3.0

I was hoping this would make up for the dumb mistakes made in the last album, it really didn't

Title track sounds like a remix from an EDM artist.

Album Rating: 2.5

I gotta stop writing stupid soundoffs right away, this album isn't atrocious, it's just I know they can do better. I do like Still Alive, Losing Control and AI though. And you know what....even that super-poppy shit in the t/t is passable for me. Release the Panic is still likely the worst thing they ever made.

Album Rating: 3.0

the t/t sounds so much like Starset's 'Monster'

Yea I can see that a little, the chorus drum beat is pretty similar.