Wintersun The Forest Seasons
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mifzal
July 22nd 2017


3441 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

nah this is just nauseating

can he do better? of course no doubt

even with his divo shit? sure why not, but not this time

EphemeralEternity
July 22nd 2017


4342 Comments


well this is awkward

Muikuli
July 22nd 2017


195 Comments


The production is good too.

Dizchu
July 22nd 2017


548 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

"Out of curiosity, what rookie mistakes are you hearing?"



Awful guitar tone that doesn't cut through the mix, muddy bass guitar, brickwalled drums, lifeless synthesizers that overpower everything else, the vocals are too loud, I can go on and on.



Listen to Sagas by Equilibrium or Varangian Way by Turisas if you want this cheesy "SUPER EPIC" style of metal done right.



Ideally Jari should have gone for a Moonsorrow-style production if he really wanted that earthy, dynamic sound. He says this is the pinnacle of his production skills and is really "hi-fi" but honestly the self-titled album sounds a lot better.



tl;dr hire someone to mix this.

Wolfhorde
July 22nd 2017


15387 Comments


^ what he said

EphemeralEternity
July 22nd 2017


4342 Comments


well maybe if you all weren't so niggardly and helped pay for him to do a producing and mixing course we wouldn't have this problem.

Wolfhorde
July 22nd 2017


15387 Comments


"niggardly"

what

mifzal
July 22nd 2017


3441 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

we paid him when we bought Time and the debut.

Wolfhorde
July 22nd 2017


15387 Comments


Plus FUCKING NUCLEAR BLAST. One of the largest metal labels. Come the fuck on.

ScuroFantasma
Emeritus
July 22nd 2017


11971 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

niggardly

ˈnɪɡədli/

adjective

1.

ungenerous with money, time, etc.; mean.



Checks out

XfingTheSullen
July 22nd 2017


5230 Comments


jari is definitely a niggardly niggard, quite filled with delusions of grandeur as well

Kusangii
July 22nd 2017


6350 Comments


What a great and accurate description Xfing

DarkNoctus
July 22nd 2017


12200 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0 | Sound Off

well maybe if you all weren't so niggardly and helped pay for him to do a producing and mixing course we wouldn't have this problem.




they gave him more money than help than they gave practically any other band on the label to make time i, and he still couldn't deliver even that. he refused to give the reigns to someone else who had any idea what they were doing. it's jari's stubbornness, it isn't anything to do with money.

XfingTheSullen
July 22nd 2017


5230 Comments


Speaking of that, it's quite amazing that Wintersun got so big after releasing just one album. It was very good alright, but bands like Be'lakor or Insomnium release albums of that quality almost routinely.

zaruyache
July 22nd 2017


27363 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

He was a main songwriter of Ensiferum and they had three big albums before Jari did Wintersun so there was probably a good following for it before it came out.

FrozenVain
July 22nd 2017


3043 Comments


Second paragraph is spot-on. Worst mixing ever.

Deathconscious
July 22nd 2017


27347 Comments


I hope youre joking, eternity. Jari has had more than enough help from both the label and the fans. hes just an insufferable cunt.

Spec
July 22nd 2017


39395 Comments


is this the album that he refused to release unless his fans gave him a ridiculous amount of money?

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
July 22nd 2017


11564 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Ephemeral is 100 percent being sarcastic, kinda surprised you guys didn't pick up on it

Spec
July 22nd 2017


39395 Comments


maybe if you paid darknoctus the money to take a sarcasm course he would have got it you fucking piece of shit



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