Album Rating: 2.0

asdf, dude, you're fuckin killin it. keep doing the lord's work.

#banbossy

Album Rating: 2.5

Beyoncé's work*

her last album was way better than this tbh

Album Rating: 4.5

@asdfp277



Men are denigrating women's accomplishments within the context of modern black politics. You have a riff developing along gendered lines (I talked specifically about BLM), and Beyonce's album addresses that riff metaphorically by talking about her relationship and her reconciliation with her husband. Much of the whole review discusses how there's a subtext of dependence that underlies the work of women in society. The work of women, particularly black women, more often than not is undermined or discounted in our society. Beyonce addresses that by calling to attention her own independence and her own ability to operate independent of a man. I specifically talked about songs like "6 Inch" where she literally takes the notion of a working girl, who traditionally is bound to the men she serves, and divorces that character from the men. That, along with "All Night" were their reconciliation is built not on her capitulation but his reformation, helps to demonstrate the point she's trying to convey. Again, it's interesting to me how this is not translating for you.



One thing that I'm really struck by with this album, and I wrote this in literally the first paragraph, is how polarizing it's bound to be. It's definitely not for everyone, and your understanding of its themes comes from your ability to engage with it and listen to the people it's truly meant for. I can only do so much in helping you understand that. If you're still not understanding it, go talk to someone who does. It's very much an album for and about black women, and it's context is very much center on the politics and history of the US. Not being intimately involved with those things can make it harder for you to understand.



I'll accept whatever shortcomings my writing has in conveying these themes, but there's no doubt that they're there and thoroughly explored on the album. Again, I'm not a black woman and my attempts to explore and explain the plight of black women will always fall a bit short. All I can do is try.

Album Rating: 4.0

no worse than any album you've ever enjoyed ever in your entire life

Album Rating: 2.5

"Men are denigrating women's accomplishments within the context of modern black politics. You have a riff developing along gendered lines (I talked specifically about BLM), and Beyonce's album addresses that riff metaphorically by talking about her relationship and her reconciliation with her husband."



A) How's Beyoncé having marital problems a denigration of women.

B) You literally said the opposite, that women had more power within the BLM's movement.



"Much of the whole review discusses how there's a subtext of dependence that underlies the work of women in society. The work of women, particularly black women, more often than not is undermined or discounted in our society. Beyonce addresses that by calling to attention her own independence and her own ability to operate independent of a man. I specifically talked about songs like "6 Inch" where she literally takes the notion of a working girl, who traditionally is bound to the men she serves, and divorces that character from the men. That, along with "All Night" were their reconciliation is built not on her capitulation but his reformation, helps to demonstrate the point she's trying to convey."



Literally none of this is men intentionally denigrating women for being successful, nor does she tackle the issue at all. It was just a low stab at men, and a disconnected statement with no backup on your closing paragraph.



"One thing that I'm really struck by with this album, and I wrote this in literally the first paragraph, is how polarizing it's bound to be. It's definitely not for everyone, and your understanding of its themes comes from your ability to engage with it and listen to the people it's truly meant for. I can only do so much in helping you understand that. If you're still not understanding it, go talk to someone who does. It's very much an album for and about black women, and it's context is very much center on the politics and history of the US. Not being intimately involved with those things can make it harder for you to understand."



A) I like this, and I understand this. Doesn't explain your disconnected points that come from no where and are not further explained in the review.

B) You don't know me.

Album Rating: 1.0

"I wonder if she's still terrible."



i wonder if you are still retarded enough to not learn your lesson and get banned for months again

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Fantastic review and really in-depth, unfortunately whilst i completely agree with the political context and points you talk about half the people here are the type to go on a raging crusade against those dastardly sjw boogeymen everytime politics is discussed so eh

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Also only heard half of this so far but it's absolutely amazing from what ive heard

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah giving statements with no backup and no bearing on the album whatsoever should be applauded, damn those dastardly MRA boogeymen #BLM #BlackWomenAreYourSpeakPieces

Album Rating: 4.0

Really want to listen to this. Ugh, you guys.

Album Rating: 4.5

@Asdfp277 Beyonce's marital problems aren't the denigration of women, they're a representation of a riff that's developing. She and her husband grow apart in the same way that black men and black women have stopped working towards the same goal of liberation and started fighting each other.



That riff has developed because men are denigrating the accomplishments of women, and in response women are pushing men out (a la BLM). Black women are indeed the leaders of BLM, but that doesn't make them immune from the critiques of people looking to deny them their power as the leaders of the movement, nor does it stop them from lashing out at male activists whom they see as too off message or too critical of them. And, like I said in a prior comment, this denigration isn't just a modern occurrence. It occurs within a historical context of men suppressing women, particularly in the US. As I put it in the review, "For the black woman, the only societally accepted position is subservience. She can adorn your cooking supplies and clean your house." The historic denigration of women is something that I didn't feel the need to write about extrinsically because it is something that almost everyone agrees is happening. Sexism is undoubtedly a major problem in our society, and it doubly affects black women who have to contend with racism and sexism. This much is, or at least should be, well known. And Beyonce, by making the claim that her success and her validity as a human being doesn't come from the men she loves or interacts with, *is* addressing this. It counters the implicit claim that women are nothing without the men supporting them. In saying that she's independent and makes her own money and she dictates the terms of her relationship, she counters any notion that she's "just his little wife" (that lyric, obviously, is from her last album) or that she's subservient and without agency.



And I'm glad you understand that context is everything. Because that's seems to be the fundamental misunderstanding you have with this. Your major problem seems to be that you think this is an indictment of all men as nefarious infidels who undermine women at every turn. I'd argue that that's not at all the case. The whole point of the album is to force a return to a better and more unified community (that unity being symbolized through her marriage to Jay Z). A community that recognizes each others' accomplishments and moves forward in tandem. That's the nuts and bolts of it, the rest is just context.

Album Rating: 4.0

its a Beyonce album man its not that deep

Album Rating: 4.0

Still can't get over how awesome Sinternet's avatar is.

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

^ mad truths here

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Dude you don't know how long it took to find a good Persepolis gif I could compress down to 29kb i spent like three hours

Album Rating: 4.0

I just purchased Persepolis vol. 1 a few weeks ago and I'm planning on getting vol. 2 asap. Such a great story. The animated version was a blast. Iggy Pop voiced one of the characters in english. lol

Album Rating: 4.0

y'all still read lmao

Album Rating: 4.0

Reading is the fucking bomb. smfh