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Toondude10
August 1st 2015


15184 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

moment of impact and spinal compression were really the only songs that I liked



if it was actually finished I'm sure it would've been great but man the production is just so bad

Saky
August 1st 2015


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I won't argue that christplotation is not a good song, but what is sad is that it just happens to be the best iteration on the album. The best version of a flood of the same songs.
Frankly, from the day they fired Raymond Herrera and Christian Olde Wolbers I couldn't care less about what befalls that band. Clearly Burton has gone mad, and what I read about his shitty behaviour regarding the distribution of his (City of Fire) album, well he can just drop dead for all I care. And he is the man who broght me to a metal music.

Willie
Moderator
August 1st 2015


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.7

What's the shitty behavior that you're referring to?

Toondude10
August 1st 2015


15184 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

well Burton was known to be a dick at times but as far as I know he never really did anything awful.

Saky
August 1st 2015


25 Comments


Basically he financially fucked over a lady who was helping the band with the distribution. And then just stuck his head into the sand.

Toondude10
August 1st 2015


15184 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

when did that happen? I don't ever recall that ever happening

Saky
August 1st 2015


25 Comments


I (and some other people) had a small talk with the said lady on City of Fire's facebook page, maybe it's still there. I have long since hit the "unlike" button so I can't really say.

Willie
Moderator
August 1st 2015


20212 Comments

Album Rating: 3.7

I try to stick just to the music. If you were to dig into most musicians' lives, I think you'd discover some shit that you just don't like.

Saky
August 1st 2015


25 Comments


Well I probably wouldn't too, but she was handling the shipments so I thanked her, and one thing lead to another .... and it turned out that Burton is an alpha dick. Well the music from the past 11 years sucks anyway so whatever.

Toondude10
August 1st 2015


15184 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Mechanize tho

KILL
August 1st 2015


81580 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

dino is a prick too but hey he wrote demanufacture so cant hate his lard ass too hard

Toondude10
August 1st 2015


15184 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

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KevinKC
August 2nd 2015


1253 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I think Dino and Burton's attitude has hurt the band. Too many bad stuff happened and I think we're less tolerant when listening to Fear Factory also because of that.



@Saky "Burton has gone mad"

I'd actually be interested in knowing how these guys evolved psychologically because I think Fear factory's story is pretty violent on a more human scale. They flirted with success and mainstream recognition, then everything turned to shit (Dino) and then everything turned into more shit (Raymon, Christian), and then things carried on in being shitty (Gene, Byron) even though albums' quality kept satisfying listeners.

Sometimes, I've got the feeling that Burton and Dino are still trying to prove something because even though they can pull out great music, neither of them can be taken truly seriously when it comes to their skills. Fear Factory has always been some kind of a fraud from that point of view and maybe it's eating them in some sort of way.

Saky
August 2nd 2015


25 Comments


@KevinKC I think the sole (psychological) problem is that they both got tremendous egos, and we all know how that unfolded after Digimortal.
I don't know what happened after Transgression, maybe they mutualy licked their asses and were racing to prove each other who tastes better. And maybe they shockingly agreed there's no difference, hit it off once again and kicked the sorry asses of Raymond and Christian, because they probably weren't up for (boot)licking.

KevinKC
August 2nd 2015


1253 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Ah ah ah !

You know Saky, Burton would call you a cyberwaste and write a song about how "your words are shit."



But aren't tremendous egos a way to protect yourself from a very painful reality ? Like, you're a famous singer who cannot sing and owes a lot of the recognition he has to a computer program or like, your first name is Dino.

Saky
August 2nd 2015


25 Comments


Nah. If you have tremendous ego then something is very wrong inside your head. And by judging the lyrics from the latest songs, it seems like he truly is not okay. With his current style he would fit right in a comunist party, yelling "hun-geeeerrr", "ca-pi-ta-list bone-scra-peeers", f-uck-you and-your au-to-ma-ted ma-nu-fac-tu-ring" and then just headbang some well made metal wall pondering about its acoustic potential to take his job. Just need to change a few words here and there and they can fly right over to and be stars in North Korea.

KevinKC
August 2nd 2015


1253 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Well, hum... man, you've made quite a jump in logic. From tremendous egos to very wrong inside his head to communists ideas to north korea.

Fear Factory's lyrics have always had some anti-capitalist anti-industrial society connotations. The main theme of the band is the fight between man and machine remember, the struggle of men trying not to become machines, and the name of the band is Fear Factory which has very Marxist connotations. So, I don't exactly know what could be alarming now more than before on that matter.



Saky
August 2nd 2015


25 Comments


Uh, now that I re-read it I think I can see why you are confused. Got a little emotional there and failed to make a clear point, lol.
I just wanted to express that his spasmodic phrasing combined with a simplistic stupid lyrics is reminding me of a totalitarian regimes, where the führers would spit similar hate/anger speeches onto the masses below the stage. But those are just my impressions from the new youtube videos, it may differ from man to man. Maybe I'm jut getting old.

LepreCon
August 2nd 2015


5481 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Sounds good, I get my advance copy of this tomorrow! =D

linchpin313
August 2nd 2015


830 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Regarding Transgression, I recon the album would be ok if a Krank wasn't used, not the right amp for FF in my opinion, It would sound alot different if the current incarnation re-recorded it with Fulber.



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