Album Rating: 4.0
Musically speaking, what is it that you thing these guys are copying ?
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Album Rating: 2.0
its just uninteresting to hear a modern band blatantly 'appropriate' the exact same song structures and symphonic elements that made classic doom influential, not to mention the emulation of their vocals is annoying as fuck. it just comes off like they are trying way to hard to completely disregard where doom has come and gone in favour of where it was which doesn't translate well when you combine modern production with outdated structures, lyricism, and vocal performances. I don't like how this came together at all. It seems largely unnecessary, derivative, and fanboyish.
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Album Rating: 2.0
this would go for a band worshipping a classic period of any genre in the modern day. there is nothing more uneventful and uninteresting than a modern rock band remaking a black sabbath album for example.
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Album Rating: 2.0
(*cough cough* wolf counsel *cough*)
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Not one of my best reviews. Constructive criticism is most welcome.
Fuck, please stick around and review more, you know what the hell you're talking about!
I would double pos' the review if I could.
Really, really strong album.
super derivative and uninteresting classic doom worship with miserably insufferable vocals
Come on Pots!
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I've always enjoyed your reviews John, but this might be one of your best. Lots of things to say, a great vareity in vocabulary, but still very focused. Well done.
This might be my first marking experience with Epic Doom and I love it. I hope to get a physical copy sometime soon
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Album Rating: 2.0
@wiz man i just cant get behind it! i really wanted to like this, enough to spin it 3 times and getting just as little enjoyment out of it each time. their name and the album art beckoned me but the music itself left a lot to be desired
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I was just messing with you buddy hahaha no worries, I know you have good taste in metal.
I just finished reading Decibels Top 100 Doom Albums edition and maybe that's why this clicked with me.
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Album Rating: 3.8 | Sound Off
The album is terrific and the review is good, pos.
Should they continue that way, Crypt Sermon have a bright future ahead of them.
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Album Rating: 4.0
"This might be my first marking experience with Epic Doom and I love it"
Dude, check Candlemass ASAP !!
"I just finished reading Decibels Top 100 Doom Albums edition and maybe that's why this clicked with me."
Wizard, can you give me a link to this list ? Maybe I can find some interesting digs.
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Album Rating: 4.0
"Fuck, please stick around and review more, you know what the hell you're talking about!"
"this might be one of your best"
I appreciate your comments guys.
@LordePots
There is no point in this question-answer question-answer type of conversation. You disliked the album so there is no way of convincing you, everything I'll say will just backfire. But some of the thing you say are just wrong.
"its just uninteresting to hear a modern band blatantly 'appropriate' the exact same song structures and symphonic elements that made classic doom influential"
Really ?
I think you're a bit confused. There is no parthenogenesis in music. Everybody has copied (or borrowed from) everyone. Candlemass are considered the originators of this music (Epic Doom), and Trouble or Saint Vitus are widely considered as the first genuine Doom Metal bands. Yet, Black Sabbath taught these guys how to be Saint Vitus, Trouble and so on. And Black Sabbath was mentored by groups such as Led Zeppelin, Cream, and Jimi Hendrix, who also "borrowed" from someone else. It's just unreal to think that after 5 decades of Rock music, a band with their own completely original sound will just appear out of nowhere.
"it just comes off like they are trying way to hard to completely disregard where doom has come and gone in favour of where it was"
You did not read my review. These guys are not trying to disregard anything. They are fully aware of the direction the genre has taken and they just don't like it. That's why they formed this band in the first place.
"doesn't translate well when you combine modern production with outdated structures, lyricism, and vocal performances"
What exactly do you mean with that sentence ? What is it that defines "modern production", "outdated structures", lyricism (lmao!!) and so on ? if you want to set the limits you would do so based on what criteria ? I don't have the answer to those questions, but it seems you do. Maybe the band should hire you as a counselor to supervise the next album.
In short, music should be without barriers.
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"You did not read my review. These guys are not trying to disregard anything. They are fully aware of the direction the genre has taken and they just don't like it. That's why they formed this band in the first place."
- right, which ties into his earlier comments of how he thinks this band just rehashes earlier doom. in his opinion (and many other people's) this is a negative trait.
"There is no parthenogenesis in music. Everybody has copied (or borrowed from) everyone."
- well obviously. I doubt Potsy is under the impression music isn't influenced by other music, but maybe he feels this band wears their influences on their sleeves a bit too much. I feel like you're just straw-manning what he said.
"Maybe the band should hire you as a counselor to supervise the next album."
- now you're just getting snarky, come on now. that's like saying "you don't like this album? let's see you do better!"
"In short, music should be without barriers."
- maybe he feels like this album doesn't embrace that sentiment, that it's too restricted by its influences
I haven't heard the album so I can't comment, but I think you're taking his criticism a bit too personally and making some argumentative fallacies in the process
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Album Rating: 4.0
"I think you're taking his criticism a bit too personally"
not at all, I just think some of his arguments are not valid
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fair enough, but I think you're straw-manning some of them. not trying to ruffle your feathers here (more like playing devil's advocate).
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Album Rating: 3.5
To each his own but if a revival album is done correctly then I don't mind at all. What matters for me is the songwriting and the performance. Nevertheless, every such album has certain deficiencies (lack of originality, too much copying, etc.) and thus a ceiling.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Well said Manos.
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Album Rating: 3.8 | Sound Off
The album's sound is fine, for me it's what Beyond The Crimson Horizon-era Solitude Aeturnus would sound like today.
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Album Rating: 2.0
There is no point in this question-answer question-answer type of conversation. You disliked the album so there is no way of convincing you, everything I'll say will just backfire. But some of the thing you say are just wrong.
its called an opinion buddy, i thought we were having a discussion, as one does on a music review site
I think you're a bit confused. There is no parthenogenesis in music. Everybody has copied (or borrowed from) everyone. Candlemass are considered the originators of this music (Epic Doom), and Trouble or Saint Vitus are widely considered as the first genuine Doom Metal bands. Yet, Black Sabbath taught these guys how to be Saint Vitus, Trouble and so on. And Black Sabbath was mentored by groups such as Led Zeppelin, Cream, and Jimi Hendrix, who also "borrowed" from someone else. It's just unreal to think that after 5 decades of Rock music, a band with their own completely original sound will just appear out of nowhere.
i never argued any of this. i simply stated that blatant rip-offs / clones are unappealing. you can be influenced by other bands and still have a unique take on the genre, these guys don't. at all.
You did not read my review. These guys are not trying to disregard anything. They are fully aware of the direction the genre has taken and they just don't like it. That's why they formed this band in the first place.
no i did not. again, voicing my opinion and as johnny said u seem to be taking it very personally. i dont know what their view is, nor do i care, im simply vocalizing how the album comes off to me which is just as valid as any other subjective opinion.
What exactly do you mean with that sentence ? What is it that defines "modern production", "outdated structures", lyricism (lmao!!) and so on ? if you want to set the limits you would do so based on what criteria ? I don't have the answer to those questions, but it seems you do. Maybe the band should hire you as a counselor to supervise the next album.
its overproduced, the song structures are basic as fuck, and the lyricism is reminiscent of a time well past and are completely unrelatable to me (lmao!!). i'm not setting limits, im challenging this band toi defy them. maybe the band should hire you to actively find all people in the world who don't like their tunes and take it really personally for them.
In short, music should be without barriers.
then why is this band so uncomfortable with going beyond them?
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Album Rating: 4.0
"i thought we were having a discussion, as one does on a music review site"
...as I said, there's no point to go on arguing about things we will never agree, so let's put this behind and move forward
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Album Rating: 2.0
it was never my intention to argue with you. just exchanging opinions with fellow music nerds.
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