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Ecnalzen
February 11th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You know, even when he was in Creed and I got to the point where I didn't like them anymore after their first album, I always had a feeling he was a much better guitarist than he was showing in the band.



Maybe it's just me, but Alter Bridge is pretty similar to Creed, but with a better (much better) vocalist and no (or maybe just less) restrictions on the band members like it seemed to be with Creed.



I have heard/read Scott Stapp was the reason the band (especially Tremonti) didn't play to their full potential, because he wanted to be the star of the show. Don't know how much truth is to that, but it seems like it fits, since AB is literally Creed minus Stapp, member wise.





joshieboy
February 13th 2019


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Tremonti is a tremendous guitarist so l don't see why he wouldn't be praised. I never listened to Creed though.

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swipenet
February 13th 2019


2968 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Scott Stapped Creed from reaching their potential

Kalopsia
February 13th 2019


3117 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

nah, Creed did just fine

Gmork89
February 13th 2019


7807 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I agree Ecnalzen, I still feel like they are held back from their true potential though, maybe due to the label or maybe by choice, but they play it really safe most of the time with song structure and don't experiment much for how technical they are as musicians.



They sneak some long, developing tracks in now and again but for every one of those there are 10 verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus tracks.

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

That is a fair point. His solo stuff is kind of the same way, too, tho. I imagine he has even less label pressure to make a certain sound there, but he still travels along the same, or very similar, route as Alter Bridge.



That said, I typically enjoy most of the stuff Tremonti is involved with, but his last solo outing and AB's last album were both on the disappointing side, especially with the quality of the previous album (this and in his solo work, Dust).

TheSonomaDude
February 13th 2019


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Creed's best songs were the ones that weren't released as radio singles, aka the "filler" tracks nobody ever heard. those were usually the songs that pushed the metal envelope and allowed Tremonti and the other members to branch out a bit.

"Beautiful", "Pity For A Dime", "Say I (Human Clay)", "Wrong Way / Faceless Man", "Stand Here With Me" > pretty much all of their big hits

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

My favorite Creed is What If. Better than anything they ever did and it was from a Scream soundtrack.

Gmork89
February 13th 2019


7807 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I agree with those tracks for sure, you guys should check out To Whom it May Concern and Is This the End. Both good Creed tracks from movie soundtracks that had no radio play.

dmp3131
February 13th 2019


1326 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Hide is the best Creed song don't @ me











okay maybe not "best" but its a jam

Gmork89
February 13th 2019


7807 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Hide is pretty good yeah, not a top favorite though. Check those tracks I listed above for reals. They're Human Clay era and would have fit perfectly on it.

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Will do. Some of the song titles mentioned don't sound familiar to me. Be interesting, and kinda weird, to hear some new Creed.



The Creed songs I still like to throw on are Torn, One, What If, Higher (just can't help myself with that one), and Bullets, with One and What If being my favorites.

TheSonomaDude
February 13th 2019


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those are all the more decent Creed singles, with the exception of "Higher" which is ass (sorry my guy) but "My Own Prison" and "Torn" are their two best singles imo. "What If" is okay but used to be my favorite so OAT as a kid

joshieboy
February 13th 2019


6473 Comments

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Creed were as hated as Nickelback back in the day hey haha

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, lol. I think Creed's stigma has faded a fair amount, where as Nickelback is still going strong, tho, ha.



I know Higher is bad, but it's like cheesy good and kind of comical, and I get a bit of a kick out of it when it comes on. I don't know how else to describe it.



I am actually taking a trip down memory lane and jamming some Creed tonight. I have never heard Full Circle (might actually not have known about it's existence till recently) and I finally found a download of the b-sides you all have mentioned.

joshieboy
February 13th 2019


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I checked out Creed last night, l hadn't ever really listened to them before and wasn't a fan, Stapp's vocals got really annoying after a while.

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, he is the main detractor, I think. He does fine on the more aggressive tracks, but when they try to slow it down, it usually doesn't hold up.

joshieboy
February 13th 2019


6473 Comments

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Honestly, his voice is what l imagine Cornell's voice would sound like on a really bad day

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Ha ha, nice. That might be my favorite comparison of his voice.

Ecnalzen
February 13th 2019


8078 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Like smoking 3 packs a day for years, lost his voice and had a stroke on the same day, and still tried to record an album afterwards.



This is an old mad tv skit that I just remembered that's still kind of funny and poking fun at stapp and some others that do that singing style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCrTkr5dp3Q



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