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black album open the gates of mainstream for heavy metal



at least lets agree on that fact

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yeah.............. no

Metal had been mainstream long before Metallica came along if that's what you were getting at. I am by no means trying to minimize what Metallica has done as a whole, but in the 90's, this band was a shell of it's former self and were none to creative.

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creative and mainstream are 2 different things.



cannot understand how you differ from the fact that Black Album

hit no1 in nearly all charts worldwide, something no heavy metal band done before

not even Ac Dc or Guns (which are not exactly heavy metal like Metallica)



and thus opening more than ever before (if you'd like) the market for other bands to come, like (to name the first of them) surprise surprise... Megadeth

Obviously, I never said they weren't

I'm not disputing the fact that Metallica struck gold with the Black Album. I'm merely pointing out
that they had to change their sound entirely to do so. The Black Album was the only album from the
90's that I thought was OK. But it pales in comparison to the 4 albums that preceded it in terms of
Originality, Technicality and Integrity. If you were to hold up the Black Album and any of the
band's first 3 albums without knowing who Metallica were, you wouldn't be able to tell it was the
same band. The same CERTAINLY goes for every other album after The Black Album except for Death
Magnetic.

Sure people love 90's Metallica and do I fault them? The music is still decent and it is Metal, but
I just guess that personally I prefer the younger, more orginal version of the band.

Megadeth's Rust In Peace also charted across the world, albeit not as high, but Megadeth already had
quite a bit of success before The Black Album came out. Rust In Peace was well on it's way to
becoming Platinum, and the Whole album along with Hangar 18 had been nominated for a Grammy.

As a side note, I also believe that if The Black Album never happened, Megadeth would be just fine
and still would have topped the charts with Countdown to Extinction in 1992. As a matter of fact, I
believe that in a world without Metallica, Megadeth would have still been huge along with Slayer and
Anthrax.

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your side note is very interesting



though it is an assumption, i can't say that Countdown is not an excellent and commercial record..



who knows, listen to my assumption

if black album never happened, heavy metal would be commercially dead in the nineties and "nevermind" would have double the sales

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aaaaa and on another side note



Metallica still is looking for new breakthroughs and the movie "Metallica, Through the Never" is once more, an excellent and commercially genius move of a band made of people,



not only great musicians, but exceptional businessmen



you have to give it to them, 3 decades of commercial success and ready for the fourth

dancing in the rain is pretty good

Interesting point you make with Nevermind, although I don't believe metal wouldn't have commercially
been relevant. Alternative Metal bands such as Alice In Chains and Rage Against the Machine (to name
a couple) would have still done well without The Black album I think.

Who can really say what would have happened with any certainty though? I can only speculate. I'm not
one of those guys who hate Metallica. Hell, I own most of their discography. I respect what they have
accomplished. I just think they sucked since about 1996-present.

Id like to know whats the black album of death metal

so how much longer til skele 5's this one too?

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anyone> black album of death metal?



Ok, i go first



The end complete - Obituary



(I don't know skele and i really don't care what he does)

Your not missing out on much.. Skele is the resident troll who has been banned countless times and has a ridiculous amount of alts.

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"if black album never happened, heavy metal would be commercially dead in the nineties and "nevermind" would have double the sales"



^This, very hard. People who lived the growing frustration for good heavy metal music during the 90s can relate to this sentence.

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some actually good points made in this page. maybe without the black album metal wouldnt be as mainstream as it is right now, but wouldnt that be a good thing? think of all the shitty mainstream metal bands we'd get rid of, and probably death and black metal would still be there even without the black album

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Haha, you certainly have a point Viper. There are a lot of people out there that initially get into music by listening to that shit because they can relate to at the time but then start to listen to real music. So shit is needed sometimes in order to appreciate the good stuff ;)

Well put I couldn't agree more. I think we can all relate to this in some way.

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i understood that sentence but what does 'put' mean in that context?

Kind of like "Well Said". It's just a phrase of words some people use.