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Sanders
April 25th 2013


2416 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Also, if anyone's interested in me uploading them, I have videos from tonight of:



Four Simple Words

I Am Disappeared

Anymore

Plain Sailing Weather

Long Live The Queen (Rock Version)

Recovery

I Knew Prufrock Before He Was Famous



Wow that makes it seem like I wasn't actually watching the show

SeaAnemone
April 25th 2013


21429 Comments


"Four Simple Words is the best song I've ever heard. It makes me want to put my arms around strangers, do a funny little white-man jig in a circle, and then punch/be punched by those same strangers in the gut. If I had been listening to it in my car, my foot would have hit the accelerator and I would have been screaming "I want to dance" as my car flipped through the air. This song feels like my birthday, my graduation, and the day-after I lost my virginity all rolled into one. It's 9PM and the first thing I wanted to do when I heard is go get a tattoo. On my neck. This song is a cocaine-and-tequila fueled romp through Budapest on the 4th of July. This song could get the entire Fox News team to flip cars and throw bricks at the police. It's Rise Against crossed with Rancid. It's Against Me crossed with Less Than Jake. It's the day Scarlett Johannsen's nude pics leaked. It's....the best song I've ever heard."

lol

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

@ Sanders:



I'm not taking his politics out of context. He identifies as a libertarian, which I believe is a thoroughly idiotic political philosophy. I'm not claiming him as a Tory, which is what The Guardian did last year. He essentially believes in the same philosophy that people like Ron Paul believe which, frankly, I think equates to a politics of complete irresponsibility. Has no impact on my opinion of his music, but it has nothing to do with the fact that he went to Eton on a scholarship either. If anything I find the fact that he went to Eton and ended up doing this makes him more appealing.

Captain North
April 25th 2013


6793 Comments


Politics should be for the people. If you think equality, fair go and helping the little man are irresponsible, well..

MadMike4
April 25th 2013


31 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I like Frank a lot. I can relate to many of his songs. This record, like the few before it, has some filler. I tend to LOVE about 66% of his songs. My version has 16 tracks, a few of them bore me but I think 10 of them are really good. Very much worth owning.

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

@ Captain North:



What are you on about? Whatever it is cannot be libertarianism as libertarianism relies on the state

having as minimal a role in people's lives as possible. Without the state "the little man" will just

continue to get trampled on by the mega-rich as he is nowadays thanks to our obsession with

deregulated liberal economics.



If you like the idea of everyone being left to their own devices with no help if things go wrong then

yeah good for you, but I don't understand how you could not see it as irresponsible on some level.

anarchistfish
April 25th 2013


30309 Comments


I think you're confusing civil liberties with economic liberties

wabbit
April 25th 2013


7059 Comments


GUYS THIS ALBUM ISN'T ABOUT POLITICS AT ALL AND ANARCHISTFISH IS SO FUCKING RETARDED SO STOP ENCOURAGING HIM.

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

@ fish.



I know the difference between them, thank you. Libertarianism as a fully formed political philosophy

does not equate to "I believe in freedom and liberty" because, funnily enough, you can't run anything

on civil liberties alone unless you dispense with economics as a concept altogether.



Anyway, back to the album. It's still awful on second listen. One for the charity shop. Really

disappointed.

anarchistfish
April 25th 2013


30309 Comments


He never said he was a capitalist

wabbit
April 25th 2013


7059 Comments


shut up both of you

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

@ fish.



What's that got to do with anything? He's not NOT a capitalist, just as most of us are not NOT capitalists. He's openly a libertarian, which as I have already stated I disagree with immensely. I don't think that is a controversial opinion to hold in any way, nor does it in any way inform my opinion of his music, as evidenced by my love for 3/5ths of his records.



@ wabbit



Calm down. People can talk about politics without being told to shut up. If you're not interested, don't read the posts.

anarchistfish
April 25th 2013


30309 Comments


You took him saying he's libertarian and made assumptions from that he didn't specify

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

@ fish.



No I didn't, I took him saying he was a libertarian and then proceeded to very briefly outline my disapproval of libertarianism as a political philosophy on the basis of a comment by another user. Frankly (no pun intended) I doubt Frank is a particularly staunch libertarian at all, and I suspect it is incorrect to lump him in just one political category. At the same time I don't know exactly what he thinks about everything, nor do I really care that much. I just think libertarianism is pretty stupid in lots of ways. If I was in the market for making unfounded accusations about him on the basis of political comments he has made in recent times then I would accuse him of being a Tory like The Guardian did (which I think was pathetic).



What I do know for sure is that he's a really genuine, lovely guy and that he's just dropped an unfortunate clanger of a record.

anarchistfish
April 25th 2013


30309 Comments


Libertarianism just relates to promotion of civil liberties, which most people believe in anyway, so I'm not sure why you think so strongly against it

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

That's just a stupid thing to say. Libertarianism as a political philosophy does far more than just talk about civil liberties. As I said before, Libertarianism does not equate to "Civil liberties". Obviously I believe in civil liberties, I'm a very liberal person in most social regards.



Seriously just go on the Wikipedia page and read about it, because you are either just winding me up for the sake of it or you don't actually have a clue what you're talking about.

SeaAnemone
April 25th 2013


21429 Comments


"libertarianism" is easily one of the more annoying flavor of the month trend things
john locke was a self-interested sociopath
it's just a label that gives idiot rednecks another rallying cry without them realizing what they're yelling about, and yeah as a political philosophy it's very thin

anarchistfish
April 25th 2013


30309 Comments


I know what I'm talking about.


In North America, maybe it talks about broader ideas including the economy. But not here. You can't
compare him to an ultra conservative in the US because they both identify by a term which has
different meanings in different places. Even your wikipedia page says that.

Outside of the US it's a much more socially based term. It's possible to be a Libertarian Capitalist,
or a Libertarian Socialist. Hell it's not even mutually exclusive with communism.


wabbit
April 25th 2013


7059 Comments


Once we have global governance libertarianism makes more sense than socialism but as it stand I dunno.

bodiesinflight57
April 25th 2013


870 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

@fish.



You clearly don't know what you're talking about judging from "Libertarianism just relates to promotion of civil liberties" because that is not what the word means! That is just one part of it. I really cannot understand what you are struggling with here.



Obviously there are different versions of it but the universal founding principle of Libertarianism as a political philosophy is a lack of state involvement and that, as I have already mentioned at least once, is something I think is highly irresponsible.



I will admit that comparing him to Ron Paul was a bit of an exaggeration, but Ron Paul is, in essence, a libertarian and I am sure that, in many ways, their political ideas are not all that dissimilar, leaving aside Ron Paul's ultra conservative social views (which actually make him rather a hypocrite anyway).



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