Van der Graaf Generator Godbluff
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altertide0
January 3rd 2016


3027 Comments


lol since when does anybody care whether vocalists in rock music are "objectively good"? rock music is the music of the imperfect and that's what's great about it

MrSirLordGentleman
January 3rd 2016


12694 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Never said that was a bad thing, as I said I love his voice too. But his voice is out of tune, that's true

altertide0
January 3rd 2016


3027 Comments


Yep I never denied that too

porcupinetheater
October 5th 2016


2684 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Arrow is one of those songs that's so past brilliant it's difficult to even conceptualize people writing it.

Divaman
April 19th 2017


4124 Comments


I really need to check this band out.

Digging: Batushka - HOSPODI

MrSirLordGentleman
February 5th 2018


12694 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

required bump for this one

Jethro42
February 6th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Another dark album. Hammill gets mad in here. I know that Arrow is probably your favorite VDGG song, SirLord. It's my third favorite off the album. Hammill seems very angry, emotional and theatrical, but instrumentally, it doesn't do much for me. My favorite VDGG album is Still Life. It has pretty much the same formula, but a bit more mature, with lots of great melodies. It's dark naturally, but with a hope of light.

MrSirLordGentleman
February 6th 2018


12694 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Dunno about the instrumentation. The sax sounds powerful and the keys are m/ af



I haven't checked Still Life though so I might do it

Jethro42
February 6th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Listening to Arrow again, not sure what, but something is not that appealing to me in it. The structures maybe. Mostly the interplay of his ''clean'' vocal melodies and the flute melody early in the song. Sax is enticing indeed. Harsh vocals are convincing, and the instrumentation is becoming interesting as the song is developing. It's better than I thought, finally.

If ever you try Still Life, be prepared for good sax and organ as well.

MrSirLordGentleman
June 15th 2018


12694 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Sleepwalkers at 5:02 is one of the best things ever made

e210013
June 15th 2018


2533 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Sleepwalkers" is absolutely perfect. All on this album is absolutely perfect. This is simply one of the best prog albums ever made. No doubt about it. All I said is completely unquestionable.

Jethro42
June 15th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The Undercover Man though. Song would fit fine on Still Life. Its chorus makes me think of the final segment of A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers at some point.



edit; @e21, I prefer Still Life. It's more accessible, but more sensible, full of sweet and effective emotions.

e210013
June 15th 2018


2533 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Godbluff" is my favourite album of them. However I think "Pawn Herts" is their best album. Although, I think "Pawn Hearts" isn't for everybody. I love "Still Life" too, but it's only for me my fourth favourite album of them. My top four are, by this order: "Godbluff", "Pawn Hearts", "H To He, Who Am The Only One" and "Still Life".



Jethro42
June 15th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

You've mentioned the best, bro. I've rated them 4.5, except Still Life at a 5. ''My Room'' is its weakest song but it's still enjoyable and contains good sax lines, but it's a bit linear. The rest of the album is perfect for me.

I don't know which one I prefer between Godbluff and Pawn Hearts, but I listen to the former the most. ''H To He'' is an album I really love, but it's probably my fourth favorite, even if it contains some of their best moments.

e210013
June 15th 2018


2533 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"H To He" is more acoustic than their other three albums, and I love that phase. Besides it has a bass player of what I miss a bit on the other albums, despite the excellent use of the bass pedals of Banton. Curiously it was my last contact with the three albums. "Still Life" was my first purchase and I think it has some of their best lyrics ever. Sincerelly, I'm a great fan of that album too. The problem is that I think almost of their albums of the 70's are perfect or almost perfect.

Jethro42
June 15th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yes agreed about Banton. These 4 albums are such a ride. The Least We Can Do is also great with ''Darkness'', ''Refugees'' and the chorus of ''After the Flood''... and the heavy ending of ''White Hammer'' too. And the opener of their first album...Just wow!

e210013
June 15th 2018


2533 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, the "problem" with VDGG is the same with Gentle Giant. All their albums of the 70's, or at least almost all of those abums are masterpieces. Besides, I always thought that VDGG, Gentle Giant and King Crimson always were the most creative prog bands of those times. It isn't a coincidence that the three bands are considered three eclectic prog bands.

Jethro42
June 16th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah I think I'm more attracted to eclectic prog bands for their diversity, their flexibility and complex nature. Symphonic prog is close second for being classical oriented, filled with grandiose orchestral arrangements, strings and mellotron, well, I think it's on par with eclectic prog.

e210013
June 16th 2018


2533 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, you're right. Maybe symphonic prog appeals more to my ears but eclectic prog is much more creative and diversified. But more difficult to accept for someone who isn't used to prog.

Jethro42
June 16th 2018


15958 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Well said, bro.





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